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who are the other 2 | ||
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for every hour you choose to not respond to me, I'm going to lower your rating in my spreadsheet by 6%. Therefore you have 5 hours to talk to me or I'll be leaving you as 100% scum before I die. If you are town you should obviously have an interest in correcting my read before I die so that I don't get town to mislynch your ass. FreezingFoot same goes for you, except the number is 12% because you probably have more potential and I had you higher up. Also you were present right before the lynch and you already ignored a couple of my posts, so...there you have it. I would consistently lower BM's rating too but it's already pathetically low I want you to answer the following questions: Who are scum? I want your best reasons and the players you think are scummy. To Tube, I want to know why you thought a policy lynch on a player who would get modkilled was better than joining literally any other lynch. I would also want to know why you were so adamant on saying you wanted to get me lynched while I was gone, but as soon as I showed up again you chickened out. If you're town why are you so scared of pointing out your scumreads? Did you really have no other choice but to vote on pure policy, as you yourself admitted? The timer starts now: | ||
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On June 10 2015 11:03 yamato77 wrote: there's only one more I dunno, it could be a number of people yeah sorry derp I meant say tube is not scum. If tube is scum, who's the partner? can you be specific. Which people specifically? To both questions, if tube is scum vs if tube isn't scum | ||
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time to see what happens ![[image loading]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YKUOB8MN4Kc/hqdefault.jpg) don't you love when games are exciting? | ||
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did you notice that? | ||
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I would be like one of those dudes that rides with flip flops on | ||
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hey Tubesock for every hour you choose to not respond to me, I'm going to lower your rating in my spreadsheet by 6%. Therefore you have 5 hours to talk to me or I'll be leaving you as 100% scum before I die. If you are town you should obviously have an interest in correcting my read before I die so that I don't get town to mislynch your ass. FreezingFoot same goes for you, except the number is 12% because you probably have more potential and I had you higher up. Also you were present right before the lynch and you already ignored a couple of my posts, so...there you have it. I would consistently lower BM's rating too but it's already pathetically low I want you to answer the following questions: Who are scum? I want your best reasons and the players you think are scummy. To Tube, I want to know why you thought a policy lynch on a player who would get modkilled was better than joining literally any other lynch. I would also want to know why you were so adamant on saying you wanted to get me lynched while I was gone, but as soon as I showed up again you chickened out. If you're town why are you so scared of pointing out your scumreads? Did you really have no other choice but to vote on pure policy, as you yourself admitted? The timer starts now: | ||
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On June 10 2015 12:42 Bill Murray wrote: up me on your scum rating WBG i know you dont really think im scum i read your whole iso a couple hours ago and every place you mention me is tinged with doubt I gave you a unique score I can promise I will never give to any other player | ||
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On June 10 2015 13:26 yamato77 wrote: hint: the representation of this score is a picture of his penis that's a weird looking penis | ||
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Probably gonna be my last post unless I somehow survive the night. You all know where to find my reads. | ||
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Of the three I think FF is the most likely to be town. The thing that blows my mind is that one of them has to be town. Like, legitimately this is how one of these dudes plays as town. The least shitty play is FF so I would feel the worst about killing him. And actually on reread I don't mind FF much at all. Tube on the other hand has some of the fakest aggression I've ever seen. Why the hell would a townie's only suspicion following a scum flip be the dude that ended up getting the scum wagon started? He doesn't finger anyone and indeed hus best reads were both 50/50. Notice how he says he thought both LS and Stutters were coin flips. The excuse that je would rather lynch the modkill than two townies is complete bullshit because he never once indicated that he recognized that type of situation before the lynch. I unfortunately have no time to read into Tube's 5 games because I need to eat pack and leave but I just can't see his responses here being town motivated. They make so little sense from a town perspective, why would you purely discredit the towniest person in the game instead of even attempting to work with them? After being so utterly wrong I would expect townies to at least have a bit of incredulity or doubt but Tubes doesn't show any doubt whatsoever that I am scum. That doesn't add up. How the fuck can you be so wrong on day 1 and yet have 0 doubt afterward | ||
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I use language like IMO internally because I like qualifying things that I have seen vs what other players have seen. E.g. originally I had you, tube, as town but based on other people's reads I changed my mind. In addition as I intended to give the reads out I changed the wording so it would be easier for other players to understand. If it was entirely in my own shorthand it would be far less useful to other players because I would have to actively explain what things mean Thanks for falling into my trap, though. Maybe the next time hou roll scum I can coach you on how not to get caught like this. | ||
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He was also around just now. He spends so much time crafting posts and they come out like that. Like wtf. Do townies really have to think all that hard? Just to come up with such useless drivel? | ||
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Assume I am not scum. Who are the other two? Even if I am scum, who's the third? How about townies? Who are your best town reads? | ||
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Tube is 100% scum this game. Here's what he said in Newbie Mini LX when he rolled town: On January 05 2015 15:15 Tubesock wrote: Oh, yeah I should clarify, I absolutely agree we should lynch day 1. Even as a mlynch we gain a lot of information from who pushes what wagons, or any shenannies etc. And that also why I don't think policy lynches are good ideas, You really don't gain any information at all from them. I'm just letting you all know, I think my D1 reads are going to be trash. I'm probably only going to have a lynch/no-lynch list which will evolve as I gain confidence/evidence for my reads to solidify to town/mafia. Compare that to this game where the dude was like yeah this is clearly policy On June 10 2015 05:37 Tubesock wrote: ##Vote: Stutters695 Pure Policy. Bill, my points about the smurf is that there are several scenarios where it is beneficial to town to not know the smurf's identity. There are also some that benefit mafia. Bugs only considers 1 such scenario and has pushed it pretty consistently. So far no town points to anyone who sees the benefits to have a Holyflare type player smurfing. Both if he wanted to try hard or not. See that, and you'll see why it's beneficial to mafia to out the smurf. and like this On June 10 2015 17:04 Tubesock wrote: Fuck yeah I'm fine with a lynch on a modkill when I think the lynch is policy which is essentially 50/50. With 2 hours left too I figured he would probably vote. Lots of people show up close to EoD. As far as I was concerned I was willing to wait for more certainty on LS as he was 50/50 to me, and the remainders were just as likely to flip town as mafia. So I'm happy with voting a modkill to avoid the 50% of lynching 2 towns. I am also completely fine with a no lynch if the wagons were people I had at 50%. The more time town has the more difficult it is for mafia to win. It's a race against time. I think he's our best lynch now | ||
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as town he at least has the semblance of reads and I would not mind playing with him at all. Here I just want him to stop talking because I actually feel embarrassed for his thought process if he were to flip town Compare a post like this On March 04 2015 03:48 Tubesock wrote: Rayn, Toad, Geript are pretty obvious towns. You're town too, although I feel like Eden would scum you for having a low emote to post ratio. You have been interacting quite a bit. Mocsta is town for his zealousness going against Epiphany. I think Epiphany is town too because he reminds me of Jarjar stubbornly holding onto his equation (device and how to shoot plan). Keirathi, Sandroba, Robik (until a just a moment ago), Sicklucker haven't done anything. I'm scumming them for that. I have a tinfoil hat theory on how to read Sicklucker, so if a couple pieces fall together for him I could town him. Rereading Your Mom, I don't really see anything, but reading Rayn's cases and arguments I'm basically sold he's/she's mafia. Rayn is pretty convincing and I'm strongly townreading him. to almost any of tube's posts this game, good examples are the following two: On June 10 2015 02:28 Tubesock wrote: I'm not voting LS today. MafiaLS as time goes by gets more and more obvious. Most of you know this. I want to lynch Bugs make no mistake about it. IF we are going to policy lynch I'll possibly vote for Onegu, Shockey or Stutters. I've already said why on Onegu, I'd prefer Stutters over Shock simply if we are doing a policy then might as well do the lurkiest. @BM I think it doesn't benefit town as much if a player with a strong town rep wants to smurf and play lazy. Other than they will survive (OH MY GOD I MUST KNOW FOOT IS A HYDRA!!!!) night 1. Course I kinda think that they won't be able to help themselves and still solve the game D2/3 which is also good for town. Anyway, off to work but will be checking in periodically. On June 09 2015 15:28 Tubesock wrote: I'm not so sure it's being taken that serious. When I talk about him in my last couple posts its in relation to having the choice of the lurkers/plynched. I completely agree that Onegu is useless and uninterested and that's his typical town game. I even mentioned earlier how I would lynch a try hard Onegu. But compared to 2 other players who between the two have 5 posts...the no claim thing is as good as any heuristic. The difference is night and day, in that first post from JOAT tube gives concrete reasons for everything he thinks and says, even if not all of it is completely fleshed out. These last two posts from this game...the differences are minor (like not as clear as the differences in LS's play) but here like...why the hell did he focus only on the people who didn't post instead of commenting on any of the various players who actually did post? Like, as town, is tube scared of commenting on people who have posted a lot? He said he wanted to get me lynched (no doubts about it!) but he ignored commenting on me aside from the smurf business. I really doubt any townie would be fixated on that so hard they ignore everything else. In addition as town tube has demonstrated the willingness to comment on other players he thinks is town. In this game to some extent he has done that, e.g. with Shockey and BM and FF. However most of the other players he has no comments on, and most of his reads are really really bad. There is very little specificity in his posts. | ||
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Do disagree with you on tube on the responses thing though. Yeah, it's a fair amount of effort but what matters more here is the reads tube has, the reasonings, the behaviour, the methods through which he responds. Also I think the policy/mislynch stuff from his previous game is really damning. Tone wise he doesn't seem so wildly aggressive when he plaus town but who knows. He may genuinely be frustrated. I am nowhere near as confident on this dude as I was on LS but he has contributed nothing and will likely continue to contribute nothing given his attitude and stance re: the game, which to me is in contrast to the attitude he displayed in previous games where he rolled town. As for Breske I agree that he did not do all that much but my intuition points to town based on the manner in which he responded to particular happenings in the thread. Look at behaviour and perspective more than participation, because motives are more useful to analyze than play characteristics like effort or post count or whatever else you can come up with. Those types of traits only matter when they support or rule out particular scenarios regarding a player's thought process. Tomorrow: BM or tube. If we get a scum flip we auto lynch the other dude. We get a town flip and we need to start considering players like Onegu, Breske, Shining, Shockey, bats, but I don't find anything super outlandish about the way they are playing right now. Those players need to participate tomorrow so of course it would be useful to hear from all of them individually. At this point I would expect townies to have reasonable reads on the game so if anything seems out of place about someone's opinions and we end up lynching a townie, chances are they are a good bet to be scum. | ||
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