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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 03:55 GMT
#624
On June 04 2015 12:19 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 12:09 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 11:37 Tictock wrote:
On June 04 2015 11:06 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:
Scott is looking better given his posts today. I'm holding him to this post in particular, but I don't want to lynch him today.

On June 04 2015 04:47 scott31337 wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:27 scott31337 wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote:
I'm back now -

[quote]

I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do -

[quote]

I'm going to keep an eye on him for now.

Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up.

VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way.

From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite.

I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so.


do you have any scum reads? all i got from this was you think milo is town and kickstart is town. i will take more of any kind of reads, but more interested in your scum reads.


GGTemplar and Chocolate would be at the top of my scum list. I could sheep Kickstart's case on GG, It brings up fairly good points. I was awaiting a response before I voted, and we got another whole day as well.



When I played with you in that student thing I remember you asking a whole lot more questions as town. Why are you much less inquisitive this game?


I have friends from out of state with me right now and they leave later today so I'm not spending a whole lot of time on the game at the moment. I'll pick it up later today/tomorrow,


Onegu posts are pretty underwhelming this far... but his intro post and this one gave me a decent laugh.
On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote:
So here we go.

In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town.


I recall doing a similar "read" on 27nb last game D1.

On May 22 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote:
See his whole case doesn't make sense.

First 27 is clearly a better number than 26. Ends in a prime, multiple of nine AND 3...

2nd the 27 is CLEARLY attached to ninja more than bunnies, yet BM is asserting that there is too little Ninja. When is there ever too little Ninja? I mean the very absence of Ninja IS Ninja....


I guess I have to admit that he's really pretty null thus far, but I like his tone. Idk just a gut thing I guess...




????????????????????????????? what the hell is that scott read??????????

and you're saying templar's reads are weak LOL.

i think me and this guy are reading separate games.


You know what ritoky. I'm starting to rethink you this game as well.

So far you seem to like to shit on other peoples reads, but I don't see you giving any of your own.

What are your reads atm? Who do you think is the best lynch for today?


yeah you're not even reading the game.

On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
well his nydus read makes no sense. but i can't tell whether that makes him scum making up a read or just some guy who generally posts what immediately comes to mind before considering it. regardless it makes me less prone to trust the reads he is giving regardless of his alignment.

i have my worries about nydus cuz he disagrees with me on everything and got some super easy town reads for minimal stuff. but maybe that's just cuz he keeps calling me mafia.

i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.

chocolate might be mafia cuz VE says so and cuz he wants to policy lynch inactives over someone he developed a scum read on and i don't understand why.

last is probably ticktock but i couldn't tell you why. that one post i pointed out and couldn't explain it...dunno, it really bugged me and i haven't gotten over it LOL.


that's literally the answer to your question not even 3 pages ago. but hey, largest filter in the game, probably most reads given of anyone...0 reads given...you got it bro.


Those were your reads?

Those all look pretty null to me. You have a lot of "worries" about people, and are unsure of me because of something you dont even get yourself...

Here, maybe you can understand my point if I try to speak your language...
[image loading]


i am going to stop responding to you now. i will start saying very rude things rather than do anything worth while. needless to say i have a very low value of your opinion at this point. you could very well be mafia, and at best a donkey town. my reads are good. you should start listening to them at some point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:02 GMT
#626
On June 04 2015 12:54 Tictock wrote:
Fair enough. I prob should just take a break from the game for a bit here...

Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason.

I get it, I'm a new person here you all want to push people you don't know and get reads on them. I accepted that early on when there wasn't much to go on, but at this point in the game I've done plenty to give you guys material to work with.

If you still have a hard time reading me, check the 2 most recent NSM games which I played in.

@ritoky
Maybe that's what you are reacting to? My play has changed a lot since the first game I played with you.


here's the concise reason without any fluff of why i think you could be scum:
1) i don't agree with your reads and they are the opposite of mine in a lot of cases which means 1 of us is probably pretty wrong. and i don't think it is me.
2) i think your SL read is completely manufactured and making something out of nothing because you feel compelled to read him for some reason.
3) you are self centered and OMGUSing a lot. mafia tend to notice with a lot more frequency posts and accusations that target them and tend to talk about them more. i find you doing this a shit ton.
4) you made a post that gave me absolutely terrible feels.
5) you think templar is mafia for bogus reasons that have very little to do with content and a bit of hypocrisy.
6) your entry into the thread was very notice me senpai
7) "Just getting tired of getting scummed this game for little to no reason." implies there is a good reason to scum read you implying your scum (this last one is nitpicky and me being a ponce)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:03 GMT
#627
On June 04 2015 12:38 milo109 wrote:
As for you and ritoky... I feel like you're asking me to referee this knife fight for you. I'll wait for the blood to finish dripping before I come to a conclusion.


what does this even mean?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:06 GMT
#628
i am more interested in hearing chocolate post most though. i still don't understand why he wanted to lynch an inactive scott over a person he made a scum case on.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:08 GMT
#630
Also, VE your scum target has come back, and responded to your and my accusations; plz report to the thread.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:12 GMT
#631
milo, you've been very passive through all of this; you apparently don't want to talk about me or TT. so talk about chocolate; what do you make of his defense of VE's accusations and of my questioning him regarding policy lynching an inactive over a scum read?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:23 GMT
#633
I am not defending scott lol, he was on the list of people I would absolutely lynch and still would. I just think VE content wise has been pretty friggin town (his recent drop-off is a little meh) and I think chocolate pushing a policy lynch on scott over his case on VE speaks only about chocolate and nothing about scott. What it is saying to me is "hey this dude could very easily be mafia".
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:26 GMT
#634
If I am defending someone who people think is scum, it is probably Templar. I simply do not see why people are scum reading templar in the slightest. From what I have gathered people don't like his playstyle and think his reads are unoriginal or wrong. That is pretty much it. For reading straight through the game and picking out the most important posts, Templar was pretty spot on...so no idea where the scum read comes from.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:33 GMT
#637
On June 04 2015 13:28 milo109 wrote:
I agree on Templar. How you got scum from that is beyond me, unless you think being sloppy is scummy.


I said who "people think is scum" not specifically you. i.e. look at the vote thread
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:38 GMT
#640
On June 04 2015 13:27 milo109 wrote:
The two people you've chosen to pressure are both people who read Scott mafia. You laughed at both of their accusations. I don't see how you couldn't agree that lynching Scott would remove a low contributor from the game, and potentially also kill a mafia scum. Do you have anything more compelling than that?


i try to make reads independently unless it involves vote logic or a LYLO situation. also when i play mafia i bus like a motherfucker (as do many others on this site), so making associative reads is largely meh. so even if a lot of the people i think could be scum think scott is mafia, it doesn't mean they can't be together.

as for me scoffing at other people's reads, yeah i think they are weak. i think they are better than reads on templar. is my read better? probably. i think from a meta-pov when he was town he was more inquisitive, engaged, and tried to fit in less/was less self preservationist in posting. could be the irl thing he said. he is a low contributing question mark with differences in meta. which for day 1 means: lynchable. that's not a strong read, in fact it is weak at best; at least i am honest and not treating my read like it is the goods.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:42 GMT
#641
meh TT might be town, i doubt we will ever be on the same page this game. moving him from scum lean to null.

i think he undersells my scum case though. particularly about SL and thread entry.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 04:45 GMT
#642
regarding scott actually...the only reason i am hesitant to push on him more is the thing damdred brought up about how he didn't let his question about the meta read go...which is really stupid but kinda convincing.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 05:28 GMT
#645
i really like everything scott posted there except his templar read. probably won't lynch him today now.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 05:29 GMT
#646
On June 04 2015 14:14 NydusHerMain wrote:
am I invisible?


are you doing things? do you want to talk about something?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 05:40 GMT
#647
not lynching: me, damdred, ve
probably not lynching: onegu, scott, templar

i really need to work on the other 7.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 06:04 GMT
#649
On June 04 2015 14:52 scott31337 wrote:
What do you like about GG I may have missed Ritoky?
I'll re-read his filter.


First: I think the accusations are lacking. I have seen a lot of "boo his playstyle" or "i don't agree with his reads" and similar things. Your chez rule thing is a bit more interesting, but I don't necessarily think it works in regards to TT. It works for chez because chez is kinda a troll and what some people call a "blogger" or "shit poster". You paint TT as more of low hanging fruit rather than trollzy which may skew the read. Idk, my point here is that I am not sure it applies and I think there are better reasons to lynch other people. Also the list of his accusers isn't exactly a list of people who I think are town.

As for what I like, look at his filter. To me he highlights all but maybe 1 or 2 of what I thought were the most important posts in the first 20 pages and gives an opinion/read on them. He comments on kickstart's opening, he comments on SL/TT interactions, he properly reads me town, he comments on kickstart being bullish, he comments on nydus' entry, and then he addresses the questions posed to him after he catches up. It just reads as town reading the thread and commenting on stuff he finds relevant.

The only warning sign for me was his last post where he put milo and fid in town and dropped me out of it and didn't explain why any of that really occurred. Outside of that I don't see why people are "disappointed in him" or find anything he has done particularly scummy.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 07:04 GMT
#658
On June 04 2015 15:25 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 00:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Town:
Nydus
sicklucker
Milo89
Fideu86


Mafia:
Kickstark
Tictock


I can understand a Nydus town read, but SL? Do you see SL as townie? I see a null at the moment and unsure how to pull a townie read from SL's filter.

He cannot even get Milo's or Fidei86's name spelled right. Fail on one maybe, but two? You have townreads and haven't read enough to get their name right? I can understand a "Palmar/Palmer" thing, you know what I mean? Just seems weird to me.

I've explained how I feel on Kickstart (another misname) already

Does any of this strike you as suspicious or am I over-reading things? Like he's throwing a shit list out and going poof?


his SL town read stems from his TT scum read and thinking they are opposing alignments was what i assumed from it. which in the context of when he made the read doesn't seem unreasonable to me. and if you're going poor spelling, multiple people spell my name ritocky all game. i think the spelling thing is a bit much, but i can understand a bit where the SL thing is coming from
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 07:06 GMT
#659
On June 04 2015 16:01 scott31337 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.


Could this be how you feel about GGTemplar as well? I see very little resistance so I'm starting to get that mislynch him mafia doesn't care.


no i actually think templar displayed good reading comprehension and his reactions to good posts to ping out seemed town to me. it is a content thing coupled with me not being fond of the accusers/accusations.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 07:15 GMT
#660
well going to bed and i think this is the best lynch:

##vote: chocolate

he wanted to policy lynch scott for inactivity before the person he made a scum case on in VE, which makes absolutely no sense to me. when pressured and asked about it he gave some convoluted response about a thought process which never occurred in the thread, him having a read on scott that didn't exist because it was policy, and some factually incorrect information.

add this onto VE's case, and i think it is currently the best vote.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
June 04 2015 18:13 GMT
#735
i am back. catching up as fast as possible
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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