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it's official. #3rdtrimester has begun....bought a crib today instead of a new video card...getting older blows.
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On June 04 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
Sorry for not posting. A stressing game ended and im enjoying not being the center of attention for once. probably gonna keep relaxin
while you're in your lounge chair sippin dat mixed drink on ice staring off into the sunset wondering what the future holds. could you like...say some reads or post me a paragraph of wharrrgarrrble so i can get any sort of read on you? thanx bae
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well his nydus read makes no sense. but i can't tell whether that makes him scum making up a read or just some guy who generally posts what immediately comes to mind before considering it. regardless it makes me less prone to trust the reads he is giving regardless of his alignment.
i have my worries about nydus cuz he disagrees with me on everything and got some super easy town reads for minimal stuff. but maybe that's just cuz he keeps calling me mafia.
i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.
chocolate might be mafia cuz VE says so and cuz he wants to policy lynch inactives over someone he developed a scum read on and i don't understand why.
last is probably ticktock but i couldn't tell you why. that one post i pointed out and couldn't explain it...dunno, it really bugged me and i haven't gotten over it LOL.
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i have no idea why i did this, but i google image searched onegu and this was a top tier image:
![[image loading]](http://www.venturasurfclub.org/cstreet/picts/onegu/IMG_1280.jpg)
on a related note, 1gu, i need you to tell me something. who's filter should i be reading RIGHT NOW?
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On June 04 2015 08:17 Damdred wrote:
I actually sort of like Scott, its for a partially bad reason because scum could replicate it pretty easily if they paid attention. However i'm not sure scott is one of those mafia, like I mentioned before I sort of tried to trap him to see if he would forget the question about how I came up with my magical read on you (ritoky).
It kind of puts me in a position where I don't want to lynch someone today who cares and has some form of follow up. I also am not going to scum read him for saying hes busy irl because I legitimately don't thinkt hat he would be lying about that. Its just enough for me not to want to lynch him today I think.
I agree with you that the nydus read is badish (I've already said why), i'm actually more prone to think this would come from scum than from town. But it's sort of weird I probably should go look at his scum game to see how he does but I think he ha some red flags.
I noticed you left out fied? Why did you leave him out? I think there is some pretty decent reasons to think hes scum even if he is a newer player.
i'll look at tick in just a minute and chocolate i'm not sure
i left him out cuz i just have no idea tbh. to put it into video mafia terms, if someone put the last formal of the day on him i would probably vote.
i didn't really remember much of him posting and what i do remember was really convoluted and unclear to me. so i just parked him in the i don't even fucking know zone. in his filter he has a "hi guys" and a "hey everyone i am back online" which if it was a non-new player would flag for me; but dunno if the notice me senpai read works on new players. general sense i got is that he is confused and lost. but if you got something better on him i am open to hearing it.
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On June 04 2015 09:28 milo109 wrote:
I'm back. Fidei's post is ... interesting. That's one that will hard decide his alignment depending on whether he is genuine or not.
wat is this even? ....do you think it is genuine or not?
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On June 04 2015 09:23 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 08:59 Fidei86 wrote:
Okay, so a lot of people have come out and said that they think what I'm saying is devoid of content. With that in mind, I've gone back over all the pages of the game and put together the below. Apologies for the wall of text, but I put it together as I was reading through, so it's going to be a bit stream-of-consciousness-y.
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@Kickstart - You said on your post on page 13 that you found some things scummy, but you were going to wait and see whether they changed. Can you now say what you were talking about?
@Damdred - In your post on page 14 you said that ritoky shouldn't be lynched and that you would "revisit him during the night to make sure". Am I missing a rule here, or did you just come out as the cop? Is it possible that there is even a cop, since Onegu has claimed VT (I assume that's veteran?)?
@Ritoky - You asked me a question on page 15 which I missed, I think. I got a poor read from your initial posts. My (admittedly newbie) view is that a mafia member wouldn't paint themselves all over the first two pages of a thread, especially with things as banal as you did. However, the obvious "next-level" play is to do it as mafia, relying upon everyone thinking that it would be far too weird a play for a non-mafia to make. One thing that struck me was that Kickstart changed his view on you when he said your posting style had improved, even though it hadn't by that point. That was strange to me. You were still posting gifs and one-liners, and I don't think you had really contributed anything of merit. It's not a lot to go on, but it all strikes me as a possible attempt for you to get yourself established as the harmless town clown, which naturally sucks all of the venom out of your accusers. Then again, later on I've already said earlier in the thread that Kickstarter's opening post was not to my taste. If I had to say, I'd say I have you both as slight-mafia reads. As to your question about VE and Chocolate, I think I answered that later. Sorry for not spotting your question until now.
@Onegu - Can you explain to me why you would claim the special town role (VT) so early on? Doesn't that just make you an easy take-out for the mafia, since nobody (except Damdred?) has counter-claimed you?
Having seen more of milo's posts, I'm leaning back towards null. We honestly didn't have that much to go on at the start, and I think his reference to being okay with lynching was probably just a slip. His recent posts strike me as the most genuinely typed things (ie don't read as being written with an agenda).
I've made a list of all of the positive and negative things that people have said so far, and the person I come out most closely aligned to is Nydus, which I guess would make him my biggest town read. Specifically, Nydus has voiced suspicions on Kickstart and ritoky, which I share. He has also been suspicious of Damdred, and I have to agree with that. Whereas Kickstarter is coming across more as a traffic cop, I think Damdred seems too keen to infuse his posts with a sense of "I am town, no arguing", which seems off to me. VE's posts have the same tone to me. When Damdred got pushed on page 28, he reacted very viciously ("this is shit!"), which doesn't read to me as frustration (which a townie would have), but more like faux-righteous anger (which is more scummy). I also, as I stated before, generally agree with Chocolate as well, which puts him more towards town for me.
However, after all of that, I see on page 27 that Kickstarter has the same view of Nydus as me, and also seems similarly critical of Damdred. So now I'm not sure what to believe. This guy blue or scum
pretty much same impression i got. 1gu you not pulling a XXX on me are you?
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so TT are all of your reads firmly rooted in OMGUS? or?
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oh hey, posts not complaining about people calling you mafia! i approve!
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On June 04 2015 09:51 Tictock wrote:I also see that SL seems to be pretty happy leaving his vote on me for "reasons". I explained that we have a bit of a history, but I've never seen him do this D1 before. Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:05 sicklucker wrote:
##Vote Tictock I feel morally ok policy voting in non newbie games untill he proves hes town What's "moral" about a policy vote? I'm not even sure how I could be a policy vote still... I'm also wondering what people make of SL's posts like this. Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:26 sicklucker wrote:On June 03 2015 06:24 Tictock wrote:
@ ritoky
Ok, I'll bite
##Vote ritoky
For spamming graphics and one liners. Not even trying to push people yet, such scum. oh your not going to get along with ritoky and onegu.... Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:30 sicklucker wrote:On June 03 2015 06:27 Damdred wrote:
Let us get right to it.
I would generally just come out with my ritoky read right off the bat but I'm going to hold off here for a few reasons. Need to see more postings at this point.
However I don't get why tick is being so weird about Sl and him tunneling in previous games it just feels a bit fake? Also he mentions other people he's suspicious of? I'm not sure what that is, overall his postings give me a strange feeling.
Kick while I agree with his post it isn't alignment indicative to an extent pre made posts usually aren't.
Moving on I need a henchman to do,my bidding who,will it be oh you wont like tictock... All I see here is SL stirring up trouble, and doing it indirectly. He is just dropping the idea that people wont like me or get along with me... That's also a new thing from SL to me, and it feels really scum motivated. Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 06:20 sicklucker wrote:
Sorry for not posting. A stressing game ended and im enjoying not being the center of attention for once. probably gonna keep relaxin Then he posts this... "sorry, not sorry" is basically all he says here. I was also not really willing to discuss this before because the last Newbie Game only ended last night. The ending to that game was far from stressful, expect to SL. I'm not even sure why he was so mad about that game, he kept claiming our last day that the game was solved and it was silly to be playing it out. Apparently he got really worked up for mafia wasting HIS time by not conceding. I really don't have a solid way to read SL, but these things I mentioned are new aspects to his play. I think he really could be scum this game because of it... going to leave my vote on GG for now though. GG doesn't even have the excuse of knowing me from past games and is basically sheeping SL with his vote on me, they could both be scum working together to try and ML me.
i think templar's reasons for voting you were made independent of SL, but sure.
the rest of this i have absolutely 0 idea how you found any alignment indicative information in any of this. like you are trying to make nuanced discussion out of utter garbage. to me it's almost like you feel compelled to give an SL read but there's no content from SL but you feel compelled to read him. so you said some stuff that was just wharrrrgarble. you coulda just said "SL hasn't done anything particularly productive so he could be mafia". i just find this post highly unnecessary and unconvincing.
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that's the kinda post where it's like 1 guy wants to bus his mafia partner, but he doesn't want to bus him too hard so he kinda makes a shit case, and the other guy votes on him early on day 1 for a dumpster reason and leaves it there kinda play. i am not saying that is the case or even likely the case, but if 1 of these 2 flips mafia i wouldn't be surprised if the other one is too.
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also i now have a bizarre reason to call fid a town lean, gonna try and put it into words here in a couple mins
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i think you confused me. i think if SL is mafia i wouldn't be surprised if you are too.
as for your templar read it is not very good either lol. it pretty much reads to me like: "i don't like his playstyle and he thinks i am mafia"
am i wrong?
i read your case on him and it says "hey you think i am mafia ->omgus". "hey you're not interacting because the playstyle you are choosing to use is read the game chronologically and respond as you read them". and "hey i don't like your reads"
that's not exactly a compelling case. i mean i get that it is day 1, but that's even bad by day 1 standards. plus i actually don't mind templar's reads. they aren't massively original but at least he highlighted some of the posts i thought were the most relevant.
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basically my fid town read has stemmed from his general negative reaction to me, VE, and KS. and how in the 2 most recent games with new players in it. new players who are town tend to have a natural negative reaction to people playing super active and aggressive. it's kinda a past experiences i yelled @ the person as mafia all game and they were town kinda thing. stupid reason.
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On June 04 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:
That troll ritoky gets none none I tell you. Bit seriously that just made me chuckle
OOOOOOOOO I AM TELLIN MOM YOU CALLED ME NAMES!!!!
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On June 04 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:Scott is looking better given his posts today. I'm holding him to this post in particular, but I don't want to lynch him today. Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 04:47 scott31337 wrote:On June 04 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2015 04:27 scott31337 wrote:On June 04 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote:I'm back now - On June 03 2015 17:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey guys I'm back online.
I have to admit, I'm a little blown away by how much back and forth there was. I guess there's no other way to do forum mafia, but still, it's tough. I sort of feel like I should print out all of your names on a big A3 page and then draw lines between each of you representing defences and accusations. In fact, if anyone has the time to do that, I think it would be helpful (especially later in the game, when nobody can be bothered to go through a bazillion pages of text).
My only reads, and I admit they are very weak, are on Kickstarter and Viscera. I thought that both have taken a somewhat 'holier-than-thou' tone in their posts. Kickstarter started off with a very lecture-y post which felt to me like an attempt to stake out his town credentials before the mud began to fly. Then again, maybe that's just how he is as town, I dunno. Viscera has similarly been very confident in his/her posts, which is suspicious to me because I'm just not sure about anything at this point. I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do - On June 04 2015 01:42 Fidei86 wrote:
VE - in particular, I agree with his read on scott and GG, and also on KS. I also think he has a point about the way you entered the thread (and this is something I've said before as well). None of that is to say that I have a strong read on him either way, I just don't agree that anything he has said or done obviously makes him mafia. I'm going to keep an eye on him for now. Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up. VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way. From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite. I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so. do you have any scum reads? all i got from this was you think milo is town and kickstart is town. i will take more of any kind of reads, but more interested in your scum reads. GGTemplar and Chocolate would be at the top of my scum list. I could sheep Kickstart's case on GG, It brings up fairly good points. I was awaiting a response before I voted, and we got another whole day as well. When I played with you in that student thing I remember you asking a whole lot more questions as town. Why are you much less inquisitive this game? I have friends from out of state with me right now and they leave later today so I'm not spending a whole lot of time on the game at the moment. I'll pick it up later today/tomorrow, Onegu posts are pretty underwhelming this far... but his intro post and this one gave me a decent laugh. Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote:
So here we go.
In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town.
I recall doing a similar "read" on 27nb last game D1. Show nested quote +On May 22 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote:
See his whole case doesn't make sense.
First 27 is clearly a better number than 26. Ends in a prime, multiple of nine AND 3...
2nd the 27 is CLEARLY attached to ninja more than bunnies, yet BM is asserting that there is too little Ninja. When is there ever too little Ninja? I mean the very absence of Ninja IS Ninja....
I guess I have to admit that he's really pretty null thus far, but I like his tone. Idk just a gut thing I guess...
????????????????????????????? what the hell is that scott read??????????
and you're saying templar's reads are weak LOL.
i think me and this guy are reading separate games.
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hey look it's chocolate!
plz respond to this:
On June 04 2015 04:13 ritoky wrote:@chocolate: why is this (scott) Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 23:42 Chocolate wrote:
General inactivity
His only contribution of note was to call a very active player town which seems way too conservative more scummy and should be lynched before this: Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 11:07 Chocolate wrote:On June 03 2015 10:56 Kickstart wrote:
Also I don't want to speak for VE, but milo saying you afk was weird. At the time I didnt point it out because he did but since then I did say a bit about it. For one we can't be sure you are afk because you said you were going to go through stuff (but then went to eat dinner, which is fine, you just stated you were doing otherwise as the reason for your inactivity at the time). What I found most odd was the "he cant defend himself", because to me that makes no sense at all, even if you were afk, its forum mafia, you just come back and read it and respond :/.
But mostly I would like for you to expand on why your vote is on VE! "it was only after I had said I was away that milo said I was away" it doesn't make sense to me either. But to be fair I think he was giving me too much shit for posting and going away for a bit and that being scummy. I think he is scum because: He hasn't changed positions on anyone His only interactions of substance have been with me and milo I think he is taking a misinterpretation of what someone else said too far as a "scum-slip" His posts have a dismissive tone Whatever it's fine. Expand on your VE read if you please - I've been just exploding town all over this thread. You say there's been a lack of reads out of me. I say that doesn't make me mafia. I say that I've contributed at least one mafia read, and that's the person I want to lynch, and now I'm also willing to lynch you. On June 03 2015 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On June 03 2015 09:52 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'm done for tonight. VE.... I hope you actually use logic instead of illusionary slips if you're town. But I don't think you are. You've conceded SEVERAL points to me this game so far milo. I've had to correct SEVERAL mistakes in your posts. Why are you saying that I'M the one who needs to use logic? There's no illusion, there are facts in the thread. A timeline of actual events. That's my proof. What's yours? In the future, just don't bring up your teammates ESPECIALLY if someone is drawing attention to them. Trust THEM to dig themselves out. Otherwise you end up digging BOTH of you a grave.
Which really bothers me I see no reason to tunnel someone so hard out of the blue I don't think he's scum because: He's posting a lot While I get a scum feeling from dogging someone so early, it's something that would at the same time be dumb to do as a mafia player milo's post does look like a slip I don't even understand. You seem to have a complex and developed scum read on a target who you think is mafia. Why are you choosing instead to default to an inactive policy lynch over your actual scum read?
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On June 04 2015 11:37 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2015 11:06 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2015 10:58 Tictock wrote:Scott is looking better given his posts today. I'm holding him to this post in particular, but I don't want to lynch him today. On June 04 2015 04:47 scott31337 wrote:On June 04 2015 04:34 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2015 04:27 scott31337 wrote:On June 04 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote:I'm back now - On June 03 2015 17:49 Fidei86 wrote:
Hey guys I'm back online.
I have to admit, I'm a little blown away by how much back and forth there was. I guess there's no other way to do forum mafia, but still, it's tough. I sort of feel like I should print out all of your names on a big A3 page and then draw lines between each of you representing defences and accusations. In fact, if anyone has the time to do that, I think it would be helpful (especially later in the game, when nobody can be bothered to go through a bazillion pages of text).
My only reads, and I admit they are very weak, are on Kickstarter and Viscera. I thought that both have taken a somewhat 'holier-than-thou' tone in their posts. Kickstarter started off with a very lecture-y post which felt to me like an attempt to stake out his town credentials before the mud began to fly. Then again, maybe that's just how he is as town, I dunno. Viscera has similarly been very confident in his/her posts, which is suspicious to me because I'm just not sure about anything at this point. I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do - On June 04 2015 01:42 Fidei86 wrote:
VE - in particular, I agree with his read on scott and GG, and also on KS. I also think he has a point about the way you entered the thread (and this is something I've said before as well). None of that is to say that I have a strong read on him either way, I just don't agree that anything he has said or done obviously makes him mafia. I'm going to keep an eye on him for now. Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up. VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way. From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite. I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so. do you have any scum reads? all i got from this was you think milo is town and kickstart is town. i will take more of any kind of reads, but more interested in your scum reads. GGTemplar and Chocolate would be at the top of my scum list. I could sheep Kickstart's case on GG, It brings up fairly good points. I was awaiting a response before I voted, and we got another whole day as well. When I played with you in that student thing I remember you asking a whole lot more questions as town. Why are you much less inquisitive this game? I have friends from out of state with me right now and they leave later today so I'm not spending a whole lot of time on the game at the moment. I'll pick it up later today/tomorrow, Onegu posts are pretty underwhelming this far... but his intro post and this one gave me a decent laugh. On June 04 2015 04:15 Onegu wrote:
So here we go.
In Thailand Milo is Chocolate powder. So that means Chocolate and Milo must be on the same team. Since chocolate is so tasty they must both be town.
I recall doing a similar "read" on 27nb last game D1. On May 22 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote:
See his whole case doesn't make sense.
First 27 is clearly a better number than 26. Ends in a prime, multiple of nine AND 3...
2nd the 27 is CLEARLY attached to ninja more than bunnies, yet BM is asserting that there is too little Ninja. When is there ever too little Ninja? I mean the very absence of Ninja IS Ninja....
I guess I have to admit that he's really pretty null thus far, but I like his tone. Idk just a gut thing I guess... ????????????????????????????? what the hell is that scott read?????????? and you're saying templar's reads are weak LOL. i think me and this guy are reading separate games. You know what ritoky. I'm starting to rethink you this game as well. So far you seem to like to shit on other peoples reads, but I don't see you giving any of your own. What are your reads atm? Who do you think is the best lynch for today?
yeah you're not even reading the game.
On June 04 2015 08:08 ritoky wrote:
well his nydus read makes no sense. but i can't tell whether that makes him scum making up a read or just some guy who generally posts what immediately comes to mind before considering it. regardless it makes me less prone to trust the reads he is giving regardless of his alignment.
i have my worries about nydus cuz he disagrees with me on everything and got some super easy town reads for minimal stuff. but maybe that's just cuz he keeps calling me mafia.
i have some worries about scott which may legit be irl stuff like he said, but he is less pro-active and inquisitive this game. seems to be more concerned with fitting in and not being lynched which is pretty meh. but lots of people don't like scott...in fact no1 does. which might make him town.
chocolate might be mafia cuz VE says so and cuz he wants to policy lynch inactives over someone he developed a scum read on and i don't understand why.
last is probably ticktock but i couldn't tell you why. that one post i pointed out and couldn't explain it...dunno, it really bugged me and i haven't gotten over it LOL.
that's literally the answer to your question not even 3 pages ago. but hey, largest filter in the game, probably most reads given of anyone...0 reads given...you got it bro.
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On June 04 2015 11:22 Chocolate wrote:
my response to your post is basically what I just said, with what I had to work with, scott was a pretty clear read, obviously that's changed a bit since he has contributed more
also it was a case of someone with pros and cons vs. someone who seemed to only have cons
how was he a clear read? you wanted to policy him for inactivity, it wasn't a read....
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On June 04 2015 12:19 Chocolate wrote:
my thoughts went from
"him siding with kickstarter"
to
"he apparently read about half of what we've posted today and yet only came up with a very "safe" (in the sense that it makes sense to call the most active player town) read"
to
"What good is it to say "X player seems town"? There's no risk at all in that situation. "
to
"General inactivity
His only contribution of note was to call a very active player town which seems way too conservative"
it wasn't policy per se, IDK where you're getting that from. it was inactivity combined with conservative play
yes but your post said: reason #1: general inactivity. which means policy. i can't read your mind.
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