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On June 03 2015 06:43 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:33 Kickstart wrote:
Well, those that have played with ritoky, is he always like this? I suppose if he always does this he has to keep up his 'meta', however annoying and unhelpful it happens to be.
Also, I could of had time after roles were sent to write up that post, but I will be honest and admit I didn't =]. I had to edit it a bit though because there was quite a bit going on before and while the game started. sort of ya. Is there a post limit this game?
post minimum, no maximum or else i am gonna waste it in 12 hrs.
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On June 03 2015 06:53 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +@ miloCan you explain why you threw a vote on ritoky? You posted these posts: On June 03 2015 06:27 milo109 wrote:
I want to vote Ritoky just for making me look at that image.... On June 03 2015 06:32 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'll bite. For the reasons of trolling a little too much and misspelling the quote in your signature:
##Vote ritoky While I also expressed my concern with his posting style, I have been trying to find out if this is his usual style of play. My concern with the way you went about this situation is that you didn't like his posting style (which to be fair it seems many people don't either) and seem to have voted solely based on the fact that you don't like his posting style without bothering to see if he always does this. TO be more concise, the goal is to find players who are acting scummy; if, as you self proclaimed, you haven't played with him before, and you do not know if this is his usual style, you have no information to tell you if this style from him is suspicious or not. So I think your vote on him is suspect in that you made the vote because you read him as annoying, not because you read him as scummy. Thus, I would like to hear more on you about your vote. Pretty sure I explained above. I'm not comfortable reading people scummy yet, due to that lack of information. I am certainly not convinced that ritoky is town from the way he has played. I see no reason not to pressure him.
but you're not pressuring me. you're taking the game very seriously from the start which a new player is more likely to do as mafia than town, you can't see a joke which is a mafia tell for many players, you called me mafia at a point only when it became popular opinion and for not good reasoning, and you're ignoring my posts that aren't pictures.
you might be mafia.
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On June 03 2015 06:55 Damdred wrote:
How is it a pressure vote when you are telling him it's just pressure?
this made me laugh.
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also damdred....if you're mafia fuck you for pocketing me. if you're town fuck you one day i will shake that read.....one day.
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On June 03 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote:
Fine! You've got me. This is not a vote based on impeccable logic.
okay.
##vote: milo
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On June 03 2015 07:02 Kickstart wrote:
Seems people are already on milos ass for this before I could throw that post together, just keep in mind I raised the initial concern and it took me some time to write my last post, I don't want to be accused of hoping on the milo wagon!
why are you worried about people accusing you of being on a wagon if you think he is scum? wat?
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On June 03 2015 07:09 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 07:07 ritoky wrote:On June 03 2015 07:02 Kickstart wrote:
Seems people are already on milos ass for this before I could throw that post together, just keep in mind I raised the initial concern and it took me some time to write my last post, I don't want to be accused of hoping on the milo wagon! why are you worried about people accusing you of being on a wagon if you think he is scum? wat? Because from my limited experience on here, hoping on a wagon is the ultimate sin. But I guess you are right, I did do it with ample justification and pressure beforehand.
well technically you're not even on it, i am the only one who has voted in the entire game.
#rektnerd
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On June 03 2015 06:43 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:38 ritoky wrote:On June 03 2015 06:32 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'll bite. For the reasons of trolling a little too much and misspelling the quote in your signature:
##Vote ritoky someone doesn't know history. why is trolling mafia indicative? and what is the proper amount of trolling? It's not. It's just annoying. But when you are belligerent towards town from day one, I don't see any reason to keep you in the game. I don't know enough about your meta to decide if this is town or mafia, but I'm happy to leave my vote where it is at the moment.
On June 03 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote:
Fine! You've got me. This is not a vote based on impeccable logic.
outside of all of the stuff i have already stated that you haven't answered for. let's just toss you contradicting yourself into the mix:
![[image loading]](http://skitguys.com/images/products/doyouseewhatisee_lg.jpg)
i mean either you're trolling which means i should vote on you for the reasons you're voting on me, or you're telling the truth which means i should vote on you cuz you're mafia. either way you're telling me to vote on you.
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On June 03 2015 07:25 milo109 wrote:
Not exactly sure what your point is. I don't think you're necessarily mafia for voting me. I've not given you any grief for that. You have the same justification to vote me that I have to vote on you. Aside from that, I don't see a contradiction.
nope, this is my reason for voting you:
On June 03 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 06:53 milo109 wrote:@ miloCan you explain why you threw a vote on ritoky? You posted these posts: On June 03 2015 06:27 milo109 wrote:
I want to vote Ritoky just for making me look at that image.... On June 03 2015 06:32 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'll bite. For the reasons of trolling a little too much and misspelling the quote in your signature:
##Vote ritoky While I also expressed my concern with his posting style, I have been trying to find out if this is his usual style of play. My concern with the way you went about this situation is that you didn't like his posting style (which to be fair it seems many people don't either) and seem to have voted solely based on the fact that you don't like his posting style without bothering to see if he always does this. TO be more concise, the goal is to find players who are acting scummy; if, as you self proclaimed, you haven't played with him before, and you do not know if this is his usual style, you have no information to tell you if this style from him is suspicious or not. So I think your vote on him is suspect in that you made the vote because you read him as annoying, not because you read him as scummy. Thus, I would like to hear more on you about your vote. Pretty sure I explained above. I'm not comfortable reading people scummy yet, due to that lack of information. I am certainly not convinced that ritoky is town from the way he has played. I see no reason not to pressure him. but you're not pressuring me. you're taking the game very seriously from the start which a new player is more likely to do as mafia than town, you can't see a joke which is a mafia tell for many players, you called me mafia at a point only when it became popular opinion and for not good reasoning, and you're ignoring my posts that aren't pictures. you might be mafia.
and the contradiction is very clear.
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On June 03 2015 07:37 Damdred wrote:
So, gut feeling is Milo stuff isn't as bad as it is being made out to,be. If you think,he's Scum Ok that's fine.
Don't tunnel him before he has tile to do anything else.
Answer me this why,can't his reasons be all he's said? Does town never contradict themselves? Are both these things only scum oriented
So do you have a town read on him? Or don't think he deserves the pressure I am putting on him?
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Also I don't mind nydus, he gets a town lean for reads contrary to thread sentiment and other stuff.
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dunno bout dem day 1 associative reads doe LOL.
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On June 03 2015 07:36 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 07:28 ritoky wrote:On June 03 2015 07:25 milo109 wrote:
Not exactly sure what your point is. I don't think you're necessarily mafia for voting me. I've not given you any grief for that. You have the same justification to vote me that I have to vote on you. Aside from that, I don't see a contradiction. nope, this is my reason for voting you: On June 03 2015 06:56 ritoky wrote:On June 03 2015 06:53 milo109 wrote:@ miloCan you explain why you threw a vote on ritoky? You posted these posts: On June 03 2015 06:27 milo109 wrote:
I want to vote Ritoky just for making me look at that image.... On June 03 2015 06:32 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'll bite. For the reasons of trolling a little too much and misspelling the quote in your signature:
##Vote ritoky While I also expressed my concern with his posting style, I have been trying to find out if this is his usual style of play. My concern with the way you went about this situation is that you didn't like his posting style (which to be fair it seems many people don't either) and seem to have voted solely based on the fact that you don't like his posting style without bothering to see if he always does this. TO be more concise, the goal is to find players who are acting scummy; if, as you self proclaimed, you haven't played with him before, and you do not know if this is his usual style, you have no information to tell you if this style from him is suspicious or not. So I think your vote on him is suspect in that you made the vote because you read him as annoying, not because you read him as scummy. Thus, I would like to hear more on you about your vote. Pretty sure I explained above. I'm not comfortable reading people scummy yet, due to that lack of information. I am certainly not convinced that ritoky is town from the way he has played. I see no reason not to pressure him. but you're not pressuring me. you're taking the game very seriously from the start which a new player is more likely to do as mafia than town, you can't see a joke which is a mafia tell for many players, you called me mafia at a point only when it became popular opinion and for not good reasoning, and you're ignoring my posts that aren't pictures. you might be mafia. and the contradiction is very clear. Perhaps I'm blind, but I still can't see a contradiction. I said I voted you for your playstyle, you said you voted me for a variety of reasons that I suppose I'll attempt to refute now. but you're not pressuring me: The whole pressure attempt went down the drain after everyone pressured me got my vote. you're taking the game very seriously from the start which a new player is more likely to do as mafia than town: Just how I type and how I play. Perhaps as I play more I'll start feeling comfortable enough to post links to images. you can't see a joke which is a mafia tell for many players: I got the joke. I just didn't find it very funny. you called me mafia at a point only when it became popular opinion and for not good reasoning: As I have said before, it was indeed not good reasoning. That wasn't why I voted. Also.. this scumread on me is more popular than voting on you. you're ignoring my posts that aren't pictures.: It's hard to answer four people at once.
1 question: why make this post?
On June 03 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote:
Fine! You've got me. This is not a vote based on impeccable logic.
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On June 03 2015 07:52 milo109 wrote:Show nested quote +1 question: why make this post? On June 03 2015 06:57 milo109 wrote:
Fine! You've got me. This is not a vote based on impeccable logic. To concede to the points questioning my reasoning. I'd never pretended that I knew you were scum, and I wanted to make that clear.
oh shit. did i totally misread this hold up...
LOL i thought this was a sarcastic "you caught me, i am totally mafia (sarcasm)" post.
well shitballs i am a moron.
meh you're defending yourself okay, gonna leave you just on the red side of null for now
##unvote
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hey GB, can you make it so the player list in the OP has filters in it? ty
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On June 03 2015 08:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 07:58 Kickstart wrote:On June 03 2015 07:52 NydusHerMain wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On June 03 2015 07:43 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 07:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Okay so I was formatting and pressed the wrong button.... to save myself the embarassment... I'm just going to barebone the rest -_- ....
Even though I said I didn't like Kickstarter, I also, funny enough, don't like Ritoky. His playstyle is just something I'm willing to vote on irrelevant of alignment. If we lynch him and he flips mafia, I'll gladly take the credit. If he flips town, I gladly take the blame.
I have a town read on Milo, I liked his reaction to Damdred and I liked that he was pressuring Ritoky (or at least attempting to). I don't see what's scummy about him to Kickstarter. Everything he says seems genuine to me.
Also, I'm kind of glad I pressed post by accident because I'm not a very frequent poster (I usually just post big WoTs or at least plan to) and I was scared I wouldn't meet the 10 posts per 72 hours rule. Phew.... See you guys again in 9 hours since I just need to make 1 post per 9 hours to meet the quota for this cycle. PEACE The rest of your post is even more odd to me. For one you just aligned yourself with Milo, for seemingly no reason (and I will also point out that you specifically mentioned his reaction to Damdred which was exactly what milo used as a town read on Damred but which is something that didn't stick out at all to me). Right now I clearly see a milo, Nydus, Damdred connection here which I find really odd given that, in my opinion, nothing has happened for you three to align yourselves like this. To be fair, Damdred has said nothing to align himself with them Nydus but there is a slight connection there in that these 3 seem to be thinking alike and making the same points. @DamdredCan you give detailed thoughts on milo and Nydus strange posts? Also, while I'm posting this Damdred also defended milo, making the link between them 2 even stronger. Another thing about your post that I quoted Nydus is that I really don't like that you said you are willing to vote ritocky just because you don't like his posting. Scum are the ones who don't care who is lynched, and the fact that you state that you don't care if he is town and is lynched is not an opinion a towns person should have. HAHAHAHA loaded question much? Anyways, I didn't completely flesh out my Milo townread because I was kind of annoyed that I hit post before I even finished posting and when I was about to edit, I remembered it was against the rules. To me, I think he's defending himself decently against both you and Ritoky, and his vote on Ritoky didn't feel out of place. I saw it as a pressure vote and didn't see it as anything he was going to keep forever unless he continued to see Ritoky as scummy. When someone called him out for contradiction, he admitted to making the mistake pretty quickly and I don't think that it's scummy to be stuck making a logic error. If he tried to stick with the error and pretend that it was correct, then I would think he was scummy but he did the opposite. That makes sense I guess. I would still like you to explain why you stated you would be fine voting ritocky just because you don't like his posting. I find it scummy that you stated you don't care if ritocky is town or scum but that you would be happy having him gone either way, so I would still like you to expand on this... I actually got the opposite read off Nydus' comment about ritoky: I find it very unlikely that Nydus comes in and says something as controversial as "I would lynch ritoky regardless of his alignment" as mafia. I find it far more likely that he says somethign like that as town.
^ same
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people str8 disrespecting me all over the thread.
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On June 03 2015 08:04 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 07:49 VisceraEyes wrote:Hi guys! I've read most of the game so far and I don't like most of the reasons people are tossing around for calling others mafia. I don't think it makes the people giving them mafia though, so I'm not gonna name any names. Suffice to say: before you post that something makes someone else mafia, consider if they'd do it as town before you get your tunnel on. This has been a public service announcement by VisceraEyes. So far the person that sticks out the most to me is Chocolate. On June 03 2015 06:08 Chocolate wrote:
I just wanted to vote you because your opening post was weirdly cheery
I don't know who you are either lol
As for kickstart's post, I also played some games in 2012/2013 I believe. I'll go back and see if I played with any of you people Aside from a vote, this is his only post in the game. Does "weirdly cheery" make ticktock mafia? Without context, this post just looks like he's trying to be seen in the thread, which is consistent with mafia trying to hide in plain sight. Why does a townie Chocolate even make this post? Further, in his vote post he wants tick to "1v1 me mate"....which if the lynch is boiled down to Chocolate/ticktock then I'm lynching Chocolate 100 times out of 100 based on what's in the thread right now....if he's town and wants ticktock to interact with him, then why does he disappear? m8 I had to go eat dinner and wanted to stir up some discussion with what little was present in the thread Reading the rest of the thread now
what discussion were you hoping to stir with that comment?
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On June 03 2015 08:06 Kickstart wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2015 08:01 ritoky wrote:
hey GB, can you make it so the player list in the OP has filters in it? ty For me, in every persons post there is a 'filter' link in their post (top right in the whitespace), don't know if that is there in every browser or whatever but it is what I've been using. Also I agree that it is pretty scum slippy for someone to post like Nydus did (Ill just vote off X person and I don't care their alignment) and thus probably doesn't make him scum, but I would have still liked for him to explain it :D.
I know it is there, but some people don't post for pages upon pages later in the game, I would rather not have to hunt down a post 12 pages ago to find a filter. If I have to I will.
I don't know if you understand VE's point about nydus, but okay!
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