[M][N]Holy Guardians Chapter 1 - Page 2

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 02 2015 23:50 GMT

#377

@Chocolate
Yeah I don't expect anyone to be on all the time. My point has very little to do with your lack of activity and everything to do with the way you framed your absence. But whatever, it's a minor thing and something I'm willing to overlook for the time being.

You say you're caught up now, but that your only actual suspicion is Kickstart from what I can see - and it's for posting with too much authority? And scott, for agreeing with Kickstart? Is this accurate?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:20 GMT

#392

Like, "burying" someone in video mafia is just talking over them so they can't defend themselves....milo TWICE uses "bury" in a way I'm not familiar with, so I'm invalidating his case on Kickstart (as that seems to be the crux of his problem with Kickstart) until he clarifies what "burying" means as he uses it in this context.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:22 GMT

#394

On June 03 2015 09:22 milo109 wrote:
Sure.

I don't like VE. He's obviously a strong player, and I don't think he's contributed as many reads as he should have.

Sicklucker is an another possibility, but with people who still haven't posted, I don't think I need to find a third scum yet.

LAWL

Get voted scruuuuhhhhh

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:24 GMT

#398

On June 03 2015 09:22 Tictock wrote:
@ VE

What is your opinion of SL? Both in this game and in general?

I ask kus I'm reading you as town atm, and I might need to fall back on someones reading on him if I start to tunnel him. I've fallen into that trap my first 2 games with SL.

I'll be no help - sicklucker has a style that I have an inherently bad time reading (lurky). I've incorrectly read him in every game I've played with him.

Although it's worth pointing out that with statistics like that, you can almost FLIP my read of him and get accurate results. :O

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:27 GMT

#404

On June 03 2015 09:26 milo109 wrote:

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I assume you have a problem with my reasoning or is calling you scum blasphemy?

Nah, I've thought you were mafia since you scumslipped that you knew Choco was AFK. You voting for me just gave me the incentive I needed.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:29 GMT

#407

On June 03 2015 09:26 Tictock wrote:

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Lol well that's no good, kus that's usually what I do with my reads on him too... >.<

I'll just fall back to my typical strat of ignoring SL as much as I can then.

Sadly I don't think that's going to help either of us read him XD

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:31 GMT

#409

On June 03 2015 09:29 milo109 wrote:

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I didn't know he was AFK, I knew he wasn't posting. This is the oddest reason to have a problem with me, considering all the other flaws in my reasoning.

No you knew he was AFK. You said, and I quote,

On June 03 2015 08:09 milo109 wrote:
Now that I have a second to evaluate the game without immediate fear of being lynched...

I don't think that Chocolate is necessarily mafia for his one post. It's possible he had to go, and he was basing his read on Tiktok off of two posts. It seems a fine opener. Not sure if I like VE attempting to turn attention to someone unable to defend himself.

Nydus is my white knight, and I'm sure that will skew my opinion of him but he seems town just from the irreverent way he gave his reads.

I still don't like Kickstarter. I didn't like the tone of his accusation, and the way he quickly attempted to insure he wasn't thought of 'bandwagoning on me' as if he knew I would flip town.

"SOMEONE UNABLE TO DEFEND HIMSELF"

That directly implies that you knew he was NOT at the keyboard, and that he WAS, in fact, AFK "grabbing dinner" as he posted AFTER you made this post.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:35 GMT

#413

On June 03 2015 09:33 NydusHerMain wrote:
Ignore my last post, VE clarified while I was typing

Turn that frown upside-down! I'll still post to you even without a necessity to do so!!!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:40 GMT

#416

On June 03 2015 09:34 milo109 wrote:
GRR. This is frustrating me. I'm fine being read as scum for my own problems, but not for assuming that someone who hadn't posted was unable to defend themselves. HE WASN'T POSTING. THAT MEANT HE COULDN'T DIRECTLY RESPOND TO YOUR ACCUSATION.

Except he did directly respond to my accusation. Directly.

Whatever, I get what you're saying. In the future, just don't bring up your teammates ESPECIALLY if someone is drawing attention to them. Trust THEM to dig themselves out. Otherwise you end up digging BOTH of you a grave.

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:50 GMT

#422

On June 03 2015 09:42 milo109 wrote:

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I didn't. Which is why this is even more frustrating. I was wrong on the statement. But I was not predicting an AFK.

Whatever it's fine. Expand on your VE read if you please - I've been just exploding town all over this thread. You say there's been a lack of reads out of me. I say that doesn't make me mafia. I say that I've contributed at least one mafia read, and that's the person I want to lynch, and now I'm also willing to lynch you.

I'd say that I've contributed more than at least 50% of the game so far. I also say that I don't give many reads as both town AND mafia, but I give FEWER as town.

What do you say to that?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 00:54 GMT

#426

On June 03 2015 09:52 milo109 wrote:
Alright. I'm done for tonight. VE.... I hope you actually use logic instead of illusionary slips if you're town. But I don't think you are.

You've conceded SEVERAL points to me this game so far milo. I've had to correct SEVERAL mistakes in your posts. Why are you saying that I'M the one who needs to use logic? There's no illusion, there are facts in the thread. A timeline of actual events. That's my proof. What's yours?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 05:39 GMT

#462

Hmmmm...I DID get that timeline wrong. I'm not sure why that happened, I think maybe I got the sense that milo was typing his response to me WHILE Chocolate posted and maybe I took that and ran with it. Meh.

Meh. I still loathe the way milo reacted to my voting for him, but I guess it's possible he was just too incensed by my posting to realize I'd made a pretty fundamental mistake and we both missed it.

Ehhhhhh...I can unvote for now. Good start boys, I'll see you tomorrow!

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 15:12 GMT

#483

On June 03 2015 11:07 Chocolate wrote:

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"it was only after I had said I was away that milo said I was away"

it doesn't make sense to me either. But to be fair I think he was giving me too much shit for posting and going away for a bit and that being scummy.

I think he is scum because:
He hasn't changed positions on anyone
His only interactions of substance have been with me and milo
I think he is taking a misinterpretation of what someone else said too far as a "scum-slip"
His posts have a dismissive tone

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Which really bothers me
I see no reason to tunnel someone so hard out of the blue

I don't think he's scum because:
He's posting a lot
While I get a scum feeling from dogging someone so early, it's something that would at the same time be dumb to do as a mafia player
milo's post does look like a slip

I don't get what Chocolate is doing this game. His reason for wanting to lynch me is....I don't even know what it is. But he's got a bunch of reasons to NOT think I'm mafia at the end of this post, so I really just don't know anymore. Anyone wanna lynch Chocolate with me?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 15:14 GMT

#484

Like he's suspicious of me for thinking milo "slipped" but then says at the end that his post DOES look like a slip? Like wtf? And he doesn't want to lynch ME, he wants to lynch SCOTT, a modkill. Like....can we PLEASE lynch Chocolate?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 15:22 GMT

#485

Templar I'm looking at you. Will you vote for Chocolate with me? I'm appealing directly to you because you're chatting it up in the All Stars group while you're not voting in this game. Sup?

VisceraEyes

United States21170 Posts

June 03 2015 15:23 GMT

#487

On June 04 2015 00:22 Chocolate wrote:
We don't know that he will be mod killed yet

I do want to lynch you. It looks like a slip superficially but if you read the post in context clearly it is not. So I inderstand why you may have interpreted the post that way but I think you took it too far

I don't care, die.