EPTI do want to lynch you. It looks like a slip superficially but if you read the post in context clearly it is not. So I inderstand why you may have interpreted the post that way but I think you took it too far
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I do want to lynch you. It looks like a slip superficially but if you read the post in context clearly it is not. So I inderstand why you may have interpreted the post that way but I think you took it too far | ||
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On June 04 2015 10:57 Kickstart wrote: Took a nap cause I was feeling like shit and moody, probably came through in my posting. Lots of people have taken issue with my Nydus town read. I just want to say again that it was hastily done and I just said it off the top of my head because people were pressuring me to give more town reads (which again I don't find fair since I gave them, but people are greedy and wanted more and I reacted badly). It can be ignored and I have tried to explain why it happened, I will have to reevaluate him later but like I said I would probably not lynch him at the moment. this post is scummy as hell and just screams to me that you're just trying to survive | ||
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On June 04 2015 04:11 scott31337 wrote: I'm back now - I do not like this post. It really does not say much and have any conclusions - although he shares the same ideas with VE as I do - I'm going to keep an eye on him for now. Damdred never did reply to my meta question and has magic meta townreads, but we wait until Day 2 unless something comes up. VE is noting Chocolate is trying to get a easy ML on me, I like where he's going with this - and I don't think it's a VE pocket, although I've seen him play like that either way. From how Milo defended himself I believe he is town. I still like Kickstart although the thread consensus seems to be the opposite. I'll reread a few pages of the thread I was pretty blitzed last night when I did so. no need to freak out on me, think about what I saw and it's a fairly logical read few posts, evidence of reading, one post saying "yeah this player that's contributing a lot looks good" obviously now that you have contributed more I have more to base things on but come on | ||
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also it was a case of someone with pros and cons vs. someone who seemed to only have cons | ||
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On June 04 2015 11:32 Tictock wrote: Ok last thing I was wanting to reread and look at for now. This whole VE, Chocolate, and Milo thing. VE struck me as town pretty easily, prob something I need to recheck but I'm prob going to go with it today. Not sure I like how tunneled he seems to be. He made one post which looked like he was willing to drop it, but now he seems to be right back on Chocolate like he's peanut butter or something... + Show Spoiler + Sorry, that was weak. I'll stop trying to be funny... As for choclate himself, he''s kinda just OMGUS right back at VE. Milo isn't going this route, but he is clearly frustrated by the whole thing... My personal opinion is that that all 3 are probably town here and are just over reacting to a rather stupid "he's afk" comment. I don't expect anything fruitful to come from this interaction. This post in Chocolate's filter caught my eye though... At first that sounds reasonable, but then I have to stop and think. Isn't it just as easy, or beneficial, for Mafia to be putting a lot of scum onto people? Also for someone who is putting alot of emphasis on scum reads being important I can't help but look at his list of people he'd like to lynch. 2 people who were not very present in the game, VE, and GG. I can't find a read on GG from Choco in his filter at all, so really VE is his only real read here. That doesn't seem like very decent scum reads to me from a guy who is stressing their importance. @ Choco I see your more active atm. Care to update us on your scum reads? VE for previously stated reasons, it isn't purely an OMGUS though of course that is probably it to a large extent KS I'm beginning to think is a bit fishier but it's a small hunch I have a very hard time reading damdred , you, and ritoky. Admittedly I kinda have a hard time reading the newer players too (because I subconsciously associate posts with icons lol) but tomorrow I'm going to go through them all again Onegu has pretty much been a shitposter so far which I don't like and don't think is good for town As for not liking town reads, for me it's because anyone I don't think is scum I am leaning towards null or town on (in which case I wouldn't want to lynch them). It can also restrict thinking - we need to, and do, change who we think may be scum somewhat frequently. With town, since calling a given poster town is usually held to less scrutiny, we can let that label linger and it can affect our reads [to everyone] Don't be offended if I call you or something you did scummy especially on the first day. There's very little to work on and since I don't think calling people town is productive I don't make a lot of friends | ||
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"him siding with kickstarter" to "he apparently read about half of what we've posted today and yet only came up with a very "safe" (in the sense that it makes sense to call the most active player town) read" to "What good is it to say "X player seems town"? There's no risk at all in that situation. " to "General inactivity His only contribution of note was to call a very active player town which seems way too conservative" it wasn't policy per se, IDK where you're getting that from. it was inactivity combined with conservative play | ||
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ritoky I don't why you're so interested in an early vote that obviously would eventually be changed most votes in the beginning of the game are just to make people talk if I do end up getting lynched I will post a final will and testament (if I have time) for now I will vote VE in the official thread | ||
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I'm going to keep my vote on him for now but only because I'm not sure who I read as most scummy. anyway here are some reads for some low post-count reads (like I said earlier they had been all jumbled up in my mind) Nydus - not a lot to work with but seems conservative yet quite reasonable. null Fidei - agree with almost all of his posts milo - I lean towards town, he could be trying to pocket (is this the correct use of the word?) me though, nonetheless I think he has been very reasonable everyone else onegu - posting has been shit and IDK why nobody seems to have a problem with it VE - I OMGUSed him a little hard and he returned the favor. however he still hasn't dropped me at all. I kinda want to die now just to make him look stupid sicklucker - same boat as onegu GGT - not really sure why people are super convinced he's scum anymore, I read his filter again and while I do find his posting suspicious it's not nearly as bad as some other people's. I'm not convinced enough to hop on a bandwagon about him. Though I think if he is scum, rather than defending him, people are just trying to bury his discussion under other stuff KS - quite a roller coaster ride of my reads on him. I find it highly unlikely he is mafia at this point simply because if he wants to keep up his volume of posting and is mafia then he will probably be easy to identify. Also @KS, me "throwing votes everywhere" is how I play. Like I said earlier I don't like to call people town, and as a result I don't make many friends ritoky - I agree with most of what he says except the things about me and scott. from my perspective pushing scott was very logical and you even thought he was scummy at some point too you bozo. hard to read TT - I pretty much just like his reads other than the GGT read scott - didn't like what he was doing at first, now I think he has been making very good points especially about GGT damdred - hard to read, seems to be setting himself up to bandwagon on me, I like about 80% of his posts I think that's everyone | ||
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On June 05 2015 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote: No comment on the even more sudden GGTemp wagon¿ Yes I think it's utter bullshit | ||
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1. it's easy to hide as mafia if you never contribute 2. even if they are town they aren't very helpful unless someone makes a very good case for someone else or wants to vote one of these people with me I'll probably just leave my vote on VE because it looks like he isn't going to get lynched and (I think) we need to vote for at least somebody | ||
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On June 05 2015 00:35 VisceraEyes wrote: Frankly the bit about wanting to die just to make me look stupid is probably the towniest thing Chocolate has said. That's NOT a good thing. :/ yeah and you relentlessly tunneling me is going to look REALLY towny when I die | ||
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that is just not true honestly you're pissing me off and making me not want to play the game anymore. I suck at mafia, OK, whatever. I've only played two games before this and I lost. just kill me then because it isn't fun having some guy go NOPE YOU'RE MAFIA DIE DUMB SCUM | ||
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sorry for getting emotional guys | ||
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On June 05 2015 01:54 GGTeMpLaR wrote: Also, the main reason I don't really have a read on VE/chocolate is I just don't find their interaction very meaningful or useful at all with regards to solving their alignment. In reading the thread it just didn't stick or to me or seem interesting at all. I would like to see their thoughts on myself/tictock/kickstart interaction and of damdred's vs scott's analysis of it. While I was unable to really discern either damdred's or scott's analysis from their content regarding me/tictock/kickstart, I believe they have spent a lot of time focusing on it. One of them is probably mafia as well tbh. I don't really see you guys as mafia and I don't think either TT or KS is scum at the moment, just misguided town | ||
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I'm going to read everything again but I never found much of it compelling milo I encourage you to change your vote to Onegu rather than VE because it looks like most people don't really want to vote on VE currently | ||
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I think reading too much into meta is giving people passes to not be active or play well, which is generally not good I still don't really understand the push on GGT | ||
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On June 05 2015 04:31 ritoky wrote: This is the 2nd person to lightly deflect off of SL in recent memory....what exactly has he done to warrant this? very good point | ||
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