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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 00:25 GMT
#890
like you're not playing with the swag a vigi plays with. why are you like "check me" and defending yourself and shit? vigi's don't give a fuck, they will just prove their existence by shooting. your play doesn't line up with you being a town sided vigi.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 02:17 GMT
#895
On May 24 2015 11:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
"bunnies claim or you get shot tonight"
"im blue softed to my mafia read ritoky"
"she claimed vig to me"

^ why would she even need to claim blue if she's vig?
why would she claim to mafia read
why so mafia


See, ritoky likes to fake claims on me often.
So, I wanted to see his reaction to me claiming a role to him.

Lol, he thought i was vig, so bad.

Reason why I softed- mafia read on ritoky, if I soft a blue, he's likely to kill me in night.

1, being vet i take kp, which confirms me as town, and ritoky as mafia.

Still pretty sure he is mafia here.



On May 23 2015 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:28 ritoky wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:02 prplhz wrote:
sandroba wrote a short case on you.

What rsoultin read from who else did you think was made by Onegu? I want to see the case that could make you go from "He could be town but idk. Hasn't done anything." to "I really like Onegu".


If im not mistaken, i went from i really like onegu to the opposite way... I'm looking for the read now.
Im thinking it might be the geript read on rsoul, but that doesnt stick out to me.

@Ritoky- you just mad cause i called you mafia


not really, I just think all of your reads are bad. like...every single one.


I think you are bad. Like, Im sure if a cop checked you, you would be red.

I'm very disappointed that you probably won't live til tomorrow to fake green me this game. Well, that's if we don't lynch Sand first.... If we do, by all means, bring the green check on.


Hella vet softing. So much vet softing. 0 vigi softing. Nope none.

And your "eating a bullet" strategy is crap. You were the 2nd wagon, and 4 seconds from the 1st wagon and lynched. No1 was shooting you because you did nothing to deserve even being considered to be shot. You did deserve to be lynched.

I don't think this claim is real as of right now, but I will spend the rest of the night considering if it is just plain bad instead of mafia. Currently at mafia.

Keep throwing unsubstantiated stones at this VT, it'll get you places *thumbs up*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 02:19 GMT
#896
On May 23 2015 09:31 prplhz wrote:
##Unvote 27ninjabunnies

Why? Not sure.


You sure about this yet? Or not?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 02:49 GMT
#898
On May 24 2015 11:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2015 11:17 ritoky wrote:
On May 24 2015 11:05 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 24 2015 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
"bunnies claim or you get shot tonight"
"im blue softed to my mafia read ritoky"
"she claimed vig to me"

^ why would she even need to claim blue if she's vig?
why would she claim to mafia read
why so mafia


See, ritoky likes to fake claims on me often.
So, I wanted to see his reaction to me claiming a role to him.

Lol, he thought i was vig, so bad.

Reason why I softed- mafia read on ritoky, if I soft a blue, he's likely to kill me in night.

1, being vet i take kp, which confirms me as town, and ritoky as mafia.

Still pretty sure he is mafia here.



On May 23 2015 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:28 ritoky wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 08:02 prplhz wrote:
sandroba wrote a short case on you.

What rsoultin read from who else did you think was made by Onegu? I want to see the case that could make you go from "He could be town but idk. Hasn't done anything." to "I really like Onegu".


If im not mistaken, i went from i really like onegu to the opposite way... I'm looking for the read now.
Im thinking it might be the geript read on rsoul, but that doesnt stick out to me.

@Ritoky- you just mad cause i called you mafia


not really, I just think all of your reads are bad. like...every single one.


I think you are bad. Like, Im sure if a cop checked you, you would be red.

I'm very disappointed that you probably won't live til tomorrow to fake green me this game. Well, that's if we don't lynch Sand first.... If we do, by all means, bring the green check on.


Hella vet softing. So much vet softing. 0 vigi softing. Nope none.

And your "eating a bullet" strategy is crap. You were the 2nd wagon, and 4 seconds from the 1st wagon and lynched. No1 was shooting you because you did nothing to deserve even being considered to be shot. You did deserve to be lynched.

I don't think this claim is real as of right now, but I will spend the rest of the night considering if it is just plain bad instead of mafia. Currently at mafia.

Keep throwing unsubstantiated stones at this VT, it'll get you places *thumbs up*


If I was mafia, why would I keep pushing you as a mafia read claiming vt.
Thats just dumb as mafia.

And yeah, I wasn't even considered a lynch until literally 5 minutes before EOD when people lastly voted and switched.

So looking at the votes on me makes me think this.

There's a mafia or two in there that wanted to look townie for not voting on Geript.

I'm actually surprised Geript didn't vote me to save himself, but, maybe it's because he was reading me as town. Idk.

Dumb play, but yeah.



what else are you going to do? you haven't done much else other than call me mafia and call geript possible mafia then never lynch town. you're not really doing anything else. and why would me claiming VT deter you from a push, not like I can do shit to prove it other than being town. I don't see how you continuing to push on me makes you not mafia in any way.

as for you not being considered a lynch. you were top 3 on a vast majority of the players in this game's lynch list for pretty much the last 12-24 hours of the phase....so either you're out of touch with the game or lying.

as for your vote analysis. if you're going to do it don't just be vague. put specific names. who on the geript wagon is the most likely mafia? what does the wagon on you say about people like me and holyflare's alignment? what does prp's random rescind on you say about your alignment?

if you're town and you claim/softing is just bad play instead of mafia softing vigi and then screwing the pooch, then show me. convince me it is just bad town play.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 19:39 GMT
#938
On May 25 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote:
we just save nb till last if she's mafia and we can tell by the number of blue reveals possibly later anyway

or they could just kill her and it clears it up for us nicely and if not we get to keep an unkillable blue

no vig should shoot her they should shoot people like onegu etc


this line of play assumes she is not a mafia PR like RB or RC or GF, in which case you are greatly benefiting the mafia. if she lives tomorrow we should just decide on her alignment, deal with it accordingly, and move on.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 19:41 GMT
#940
On May 25 2015 03:31 Fecalfeast wrote:
Wow was everyone else hungover all day yesterday? I decided to face the 100s of posts when I got up today... not even 3 pages.


okay so who still has a TR on this guy? i seriously need it explained to me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 19:44 GMT
#942
me? i don't. already said that.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 19:49 GMT
#943
about FF: he has given no opinion or real substantive reads on any of the following: sandroba vs geript, HF, the vote swapping, bunnies softing, bunnies claiming

these are the most substantive things that have happened in the entire game. he has given no opinions on any of them while amassing 4 pages. he has also been effectively mia for over 24-36 hrs. as town he may not be involved heavily in all of these discussions but he would certainly be involved in some. he is disengaged, and that is not what town FF plays like.

i can't really understand anyone having a TR on him at this point.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 19:50 GMT
#944
also the complaint post and not doing anything about it on the previous page
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 20:09 GMT
#949
On May 25 2015 04:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not sure where you're getting this super high standard for my play, ritoky. If sicklucker was here he'd be laughing at you


onegu has more comments on the major events of this game than you do; as does prp and yamato....is that really a super high standard i am holding you to? or are you just not engaged in the game.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 20:14 GMT
#950
On May 25 2015 05:08 Holyflare wrote:
i don't see a reason not to believe bunnies convoluted shit strat tbh


softs she is vigi going to shoot me -> "i may or may not be a role" -> votes on her -> "am a role" -> vet claim

it is going to be hard for me to read that line as townie, but if you want to explain i will honestly try read it. i am not closed to it just being dumb town play.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 20:26 GMT
#955
because to me it was a pretty firm vigi soft, then under pressure of dying she gave some reads that i didn't like and claimed "role", then in the night she claims vet when i expected vigi. vet is something to claim as mafia to explain why you didn't die in the night after you claimed blue...so....idk...i have softened on it, i am not over the top mafia on her anymore. but it is hard for me to come off my read. i am pretty confident in my d1 reads.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 20:42 GMT
#965
On May 25 2015 05:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
So because players X Y Z have commented on these things while I haven't, I'm scum ritoky? Whatever, I'm in the middle of rereading and commenting on the things you listed.

HF, why do you scumread sandroba? I don't see it in your filter and from reading this geript/sandro thing I'm starting to think it's TvT.


No. You might be mafia because a whole lot of shit has happened over the course of day 1 and you stayed completely out of it, gave no opinions and just sat on a damdred read which was getting 0 traction. And in the night phase you have continued to not be engaged with a claim or fake claim and complained about a lack of content while providing none yourself. You're more apt to be involved in the discussions as town from my memory.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 20:45 GMT
#971
On May 25 2015 05:41 prplhz wrote:
do vigs really shoot n1 on tl right now? i mean i know some do and i know some don't but it's certainly not the norm is it?


situational, but a lot of the vigis i have seen recently have overblown egos about how town they appear or how they softed and every1 saw it and such d1 and shoot because they are certain they are going to get nkd d1. when in reality no1 really knew.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:07 GMT
#1001
On May 25 2015 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
this discussion is just pointless and wifom, i've been making legitimate arguments on bunnies all day and all you guys are scummily pushing her claim


On May 25 2015 04:39 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote:
we just save nb till last if she's mafia and we can tell by the number of blue reveals possibly later anyway

or they could just kill her and it clears it up for us nicely and if not we get to keep an unkillable blue

no vig should shoot her they should shoot people like onegu etc


this line of play assumes she is not a mafia PR like RB or RC or GF, in which case you are greatly benefiting the mafia. if she lives tomorrow we should just decide on her alignment, deal with it accordingly, and move on.


seems like a legitimate to me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:10 GMT
#1010
On May 25 2015 06:08 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2015 06:07 ritoky wrote:
On May 25 2015 06:03 Holyflare wrote:
this discussion is just pointless and wifom, i've been making legitimate arguments on bunnies all day and all you guys are scummily pushing her claim


On May 25 2015 04:39 ritoky wrote:
On May 25 2015 03:35 Holyflare wrote:
we just save nb till last if she's mafia and we can tell by the number of blue reveals possibly later anyway

or they could just kill her and it clears it up for us nicely and if not we get to keep an unkillable blue

no vig should shoot her they should shoot people like onegu etc


this line of play assumes she is not a mafia PR like RB or RC or GF, in which case you are greatly benefiting the mafia. if she lives tomorrow we should just decide on her alignment, deal with it accordingly, and move on.


seems like a legitimate to me.


dude it doesn't even fucking matter if she's a role because roles don't stop other scum hunting


if she is a mafia role, mafia roles do these things called night actions, and these things called mafia night actions generally speaking are bad for the town. your leave her be and count blues strategy potentially leaves a mafia role alive deep into the game for no beneficial reason other than she might be a blue. i disagree from pure procedure.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:12 GMT
#1016
On May 25 2015 06:10 Holyflare wrote:
someone shoot ritoky plz


lulz
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:13 GMT
#1021
where did you go damdred?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:17 GMT
#1029
here you go HF, i made this post talking about what you are talking about w/ NB way back early on D1:

On May 23 2015 08:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 08:16 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On May 23 2015 07:53 ritoky wrote:
bunnies keeping that incorrect read streak alive.

I don't like your reads in the slightest.

you don't acknowledge any of sandroba's points and why they are correct or incorrect, your little bit is mostly just conjecture and heuristics and tone. and you've never even touched on the really good point he made about geript trying to double dip on his read on you. how he implied it was sarcastic and fake yet wanted credit for it being real.

you then spend more time and effort devoted to geript who isn't your scum read, and the majority of it doesn't feel like it is much about geript but a defense of yourself.

you call it weird and say it is unlikely that they are both town, but I don't see a good justification as to why.

you give town reads on FF and HF, maybe 1 of which deserves it.

then you neutral and scum read the 2 largest filters in the game who did the most pushing early game.

then you mention fuba and onegu....why fuba? why not VA, prp, etc. onegu a bit more understandable cuz you actually have a read. but why the hell fuba? you spewing him town?

DO NOT LIKE


You know you could just ask me what my reads are or further explain reads instead of going ham. I'd be more than happy to give them to you.

I'm not sure which of sands points you are talking about. I havent even fully read through sands filter, just ping out the things i notice most while reading through.

Geript is a good read for me. Of course im going to comment more on something i am sure about than something im not.
I gave my justification about why they are both not town. read again.

Which one out of HF and FF do you think deserves a tr? I'm honestly curious. And say why.

More posting does not equal town. You know this from many of my previous games as mafia. Content= town. Reconsideration and evaluation of the game=town. Not mass posting. Just cause they are pushing and posting does not make them town. Easily done as mafia.

Fuba- I definitely didn't say Fuba wwas town. I said neutral, as in neutrally dont have a read either way. Dont put words in my mouth.
Says in thread he has been lurking,comes back basically 24 hours later with two questions that holyflare (I think?) answered yes to only, and hasnt said much yet.... NEutral

VA- haven't read anything worthwhile on commenting from VA
Onegu- I gave a read in an earlier post that I admitted to that was wrong

Now that I've basically discredited your entire post, Ritoky, you want to tell me how you're town, and not mafia?


So you haven't read the filter or the case of your top mafia read.....is this serious?

most posting day 1 almost always = town. the #1 filter is town over 90% of the time. so uh, you're just wrong.

nothing else is worth responding to.


you might like it. it's been established she isn't reading thoroughly for a very long time.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 24 2015 21:19 GMT
#1035
how is calling someone your top mafia read, 1 mafia between these 2, and admitting you haven't even read the person's filter town?

man we read people differently.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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