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On May 26 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it
do what y'all want ^^ nothing i can do about it anyway
feel free to continue ignoring me, bunnies
lol >< i don't understand what damdy is doing, but frankly it makes no sense unless he's scum protecting a scum mate and i don't know who that scum mate would even be if it's not bunnies, so if y'all are convinced that bunnies is town for her claim, this shift to him is stupid
fuba continues just floating around sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing and no one cares?
If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right.
I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him.
I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam?
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On May 26 2015 09:55 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 09:27 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it
do what y'all want ^^ nothing i can do about it anyway
feel free to continue ignoring me, bunnies
lol >< i don't understand what damdy is doing, but frankly it makes no sense unless he's scum protecting a scum mate and i don't know who that scum mate would even be if it's not bunnies, so if y'all are convinced that bunnies is town for her claim, this shift to him is stupid
fuba continues just floating around sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing and no one cares? If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right.I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him. I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam? if i meant that i'd say it ^^ that damdred read is mine reworded ^^ just as the yamato read was. you keep promising coming back with something and instead just echo whatever is being said in the thread at the time
If that's true, looks like we have similar reads. Must both be scum.
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Now I'm being a smartass. But seriously, you expect me to come to the thread with a completely unique idea every time?
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On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ Show nested quote +On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. [/spoiler]
Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread.
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On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 11:49 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! [/spoiler]
It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had.
As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though.
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On May 26 2015 12:37 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 12:34 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 11:51 ritoky wrote:On May 26 2015 11:49 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 10:37 Damdred wrote:I think that Fuba is the most likely scum in the game at this point. There are several things that bring me to this. The first thing that caught my attention is one of the first posts in the game that he makes. + Show Spoiler +On May 23 2015 02:13 fuba wrote:
Good morning~
I've just recently woken up and have caught up with the thread. Kinda have to read some filters to get some actual opinions though. Lemme know if there's anything you'd like me to look at specifically ^^
A few questions:
1) Is geript prone to faking those kind of angry posts as scum? I don't know if I agree with his outcome yet, but the post itself definitely makes me read him as town.
2) Has Yamato rolled scum a lot lately? I don't remember much of his townplay (my memory is sketchy at best -_- ), but if I correctly remember the general tone of his scumplay after he's rolled scum a few games in a row, it felt like his play this game - simply throwing out assorted thoughts without taking a more active part in the game. What is the point of this post and what do you gain from it exactly? To me this post looks a lot like someone who is trying to look like they are doing something without actually drawing any conclusions for the most part from it. For example he has a town read(?) on geript in this post from him getting angry but he phrases it in such a way that it does not seem to me at least that he believes in what he is saying at all. his questions about yamato are also a bit odd to me? Whats the point of this question? There is none once again it just looks like someone trying to fit in while doing nothing. This post has no follow up also in his filter, he gives the excuse tha the is busy at a birthday party at the time which is probably true no reason to think hes lying about that. However there is no mention of the information or what the questions mean at all or why he would even ask them and this leads to his next post. [spoiler[ On May 24 2015 01:57 fuba wrote:
Bleh, I hate D1. Too much relies on some level of meta, and I have trouble remembering what's happened in a current game, let alone a variety of previous ones...
I could lynch geript. I'm having a lot of trouble sorting out my thoughts, probably because of my time crunch. I think most of HF's points in general have merit, though I think he's throwing around the word "lying" a bit too much. I agree with ritoky and sandroba regarding geript's "double dipping" on his 27nb read. Seems strange to both call a read/vote trolling and then turn around and say that you still agree with the read/vote. As thought he's having trouble remembering his own motivations for posting it. I'm not sure what to make of the fact that he seems to be calmly accepting that he's getting lynched. I mean, I kinda expect him to be angrier if he's a town mislynch, though based on what he and others have said, I would also expect him to be kinda angry to be lynched as scum. He seems to just be resigned to be lynched, so I don't really know what to make of it. He's offering his reads, as I'd expect a townie to do, but doesn't seem to be really fighting too hard to avoid a mislynch. I'm mostly trusting in HF, if I'm completely honest, to know what he's talking about.
##Vote geript
Not sure if I wish I had more time to think, or simply less to consider XD Time for work, but I should be on break in 3 hours or so. What has HF done exactly to draw so much trust that he should sheep him on someone that at last mention he was town reading him for? A lot of things happened in the thread but this post just reads (still) extremely wishy washy with a lot of room to maneuver his way while still looking good and assigning hf the blame for the mislynch that he thinks is coming. Moving on an overview of his filter shows that he really doesn't have any scum reads currently. He had a scum lean on yamato for over explaining his vote on geript, but he thought about it and says he doesn't have it anymore. His questions lead no where with almost no follow up. hes merely existing within the thread without actually having much of an impact, he promises reads without pulling through. tldr: I think the lack of follow up, the lack of actual scum hunting. The hedging around lynch and pushing most of the responsibility off on hf and the lack of follow up on giving reads himself makes fuba scum. Don't really even know how to respond to all of this, and apparently he's no longer here to discuss it with me. The best I can do is explain my own method of scumhunting, and that never goes well. I'll say that I do a lot of thinking, and not everything I think ends up going in the thread. use your unique method to locate me a scum. at least 1 or 2 paragraphs on the top scum in the game. GO! It's not so much unique, as it is limited. I narrow someone's alignment down to a single incident that I feel determines whether they're town or scum. Like with 27nb, I tried to narrow it down to the vet claim (and I feel that's worked out pretty well). For geript I first tried his angry post, then it was his response to being the top lynch (which would have turned out well for geript if I had been here at deadline, but not so great for 27nb). For Slam it was the little "argument" we had. As such, it's not really something I can just "do". I'll give it another hour of looking tonight, though. so you're saying that regardless of everything else. the fact that bunnies knew information from the OP that multiple other players in the game didn't know makes her lock clear as Vet/town? [/spoiler]
I mean, a little bit. There's more to it, though. It was her fear of death by vigi that I found most convincing of her being scum. When it came clear that she was right, and a vigi would have killed her if they shot, that reason went away. But it goes beyond that. Not only would it have been an incredibly elaborate ploy if she was fakeclaiming, I feel like she would have explained the vet difference earlier. It would have been an integral part of her explanation.
Ultimately, either she was lying pretty much 100% of the game, or she was telling the truth. I feel like she's telling the truth.
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I can say that I don't think onegu's previous game (scum) looks a lot like this game. At the risk of again repeating what rsoul said, he seemed to be more engaged in that game than in this one. Most of his posts seemed to have a point, even while joking, while many of these seem to be pure nonsense or "I'm town".
Not enough to townread him by comparison, but I think it's a mistake to scumread him because they're similar, because I don't think they are.
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Haha, I'm so good at repeating what other people say I repeated onegu's own defense as he was doing it XD
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On May 26 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
okay, the onegu read is controversial i guess since i think i'm the only one who thinks he could be town here :/
Nah, I think he could be town.
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On May 26 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 13:23 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
okay, the onegu read is controversial i guess since i think i'm the only one who thinks he could be town here :/ Nah, I think he could be town. xP maybe it was unclear, but i just acknowledged that
Yeah, I realized that after I posted XD
I'm considering Damdred still. I'll admit that his case can make me look like scum, for sure. But I feel like so many of his points could have been used on him, as well. Seems odd to call someone scummy for something you yourself are doing.
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On May 26 2015 13:31 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 13:29 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 13:26 rsoultin wrote:On May 26 2015 13:23 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 13:20 rsoultin wrote:
okay, the onegu read is controversial i guess since i think i'm the only one who thinks he could be town here :/ Nah, I think he could be town. xP maybe it was unclear, but i just acknowledged that Yeah, I realized that after I posted XD I'm considering Damdred still. I'll admit that his case can make me look like scum, for sure. But I feel like so many of his points could have been used on him, as well. Seems odd to call someone scummy for something you yourself are doing. could've sworn you'd just said you thought he could be town -_-
I said onegu might be town. Don't recall saying that about Damdred though.
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On May 26 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 09:27 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it
do what y'all want ^^ nothing i can do about it anyway
feel free to continue ignoring me, bunnies
lol >< i don't understand what damdy is doing, but frankly it makes no sense unless he's scum protecting a scum mate and i don't know who that scum mate would even be if it's not bunnies, so if y'all are convinced that bunnies is town for her claim, this shift to him is stupid
fuba continues just floating around sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing and no one cares? If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right. I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him. I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam?
Oh, that. I wanted to see what he said. I didn't particularly like what he said. Therefore thinking scum.
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On May 26 2015 13:39 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 13:35 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 13:33 rsoultin wrote:On May 26 2015 09:27 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 08:21 rsoultin wrote:
eh, fuck it
do what y'all want ^^ nothing i can do about it anyway
feel free to continue ignoring me, bunnies
lol >< i don't understand what damdy is doing, but frankly it makes no sense unless he's scum protecting a scum mate and i don't know who that scum mate would even be if it's not bunnies, so if y'all are convinced that bunnies is town for her claim, this shift to him is stupid
fuba continues just floating around sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing and no one cares? If by "sheeping whatever the rest of the thread is doing" you mean "having similar reactions to given information around the same time as the rest of the thread", then you're right. I'm not sure I want to vote for Damdred. His recent posts confuse me more than anything. Seems like he's kinda given up. Scummiest thing I see from his filter is promising more activity then not coming through. I have trouble seeing that as a definite scum read because I've been busy/out-of-it before and it's affected my game. The main difference between us in that respect is that he's promised more. I want to see if he comes back with anything this time before voting him. I actually want to hear more from alakaslam regarding VA. From what I can tell yamato's vote on him was pretty much pure policy. Is there anything else you have to add, slam? Oh, that. I wanted to see what he said. I didn't particularly like what he said. Therefore thinking scum. eh i don't really think he/oats is scum and especially not for that post in particular -_- but i'll look back through it to see if it's really as hypocritical as you say any other scumreads or is that it?
At the moment, he's all I'd vote for. The rest are either town reads, people who I haven't re-examined my earlier town reads on but want to, and people I'm pretty much null on.
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Also find it strange that FF's top scumread is either me or prplhz (not sure if list is ascending or descending), but his vote is on ritoky.
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On May 26 2015 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
seriously wtf is this shit.
Fuba has no scumreads and he doesnt give a damn.
he doesnt want to engage with me and randomly throws out town reads for no reason.
Hes scum.
Both Oats and Damdred saying I'm refusing to engage with them when they've made no attempt to engage with me.
(Though I've played enough with Oats to know that once he's at this point, there's no reasoning with him).
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Gotta get to bed now so I can have some time to read/respond before work.
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On May 26 2015 15:33 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On May 26 2015 14:15 fuba wrote:On May 26 2015 13:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
seriously wtf is this shit.
Fuba has no scumreads and he doesnt give a damn.
he doesnt want to engage with me and randomly throws out town reads for no reason.
Hes scum.
Both Oats and Damdred saying I'm refusing to engage with them when they've made no attempt to engage with me. (Though I've played enough with Oats to know that once he's at this point, there's no reasoning with him). DIE SCUM. . but seriously though, posting about you isnt enough to get you to respond? You dont even say anything like "your read is shit, get good".
No, it isn't enough. I feel like you've played with me enough to know that this could easily be me being town. And that "your read is shit, get good" isn't something I'd say.
And if people are actually townreading you, and not Damdred, I can't imagine why. All you've done is say "fuba is scum for reasons others have already pointed out, and sandro is town for posting". Which is, btw, essentially what you've accused me of doing (one scum read and throwing out town reads for no reason).
Catching a bus. Will be on my phone.
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I dislike sandroba's lust post. He says scum are either not playing or are really good, and clearly defaults to not playing. He throws in that "or I'm terrible", which is inconsistent with his chat with oats regarding why he's still alive. He also doesn't actually place a vote on any of us.
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On May 26 2015 23:44 fuba wrote:
I dislike sandroba's lust post. He says scum are either not playing or are really good, and clearly defaults to not playing. He throws in that "or I'm terrible", which is inconsistent with his chat with oats regarding why he's still alive. He also doesn't actually place a vote on any of us.
Also, I know I'm town, and I at least lean town on the other two.
This post feels almost as wishy-washy as I imagine I look most of the time.
Got to work an hour early so I could let everyone know when I'd be back during my break, but my boss has asked me to start now and leave an hour earlier. Should be back about two hours before deadline, if my break remains the same.
And, because my thoughts haven't really changed since last night:
##Vote Oatsmaster
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