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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 16 2015 10:07 GMT
#26
/in
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:21 GMT
#124
Oh this started already.

Should I read my role PM?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:25 GMT
#126
Well I read my role PM now so I'm sure I can post this:

On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


This is a question that looks like it's coming from scum Obi.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:26 GMT
#127
I don't know I might try to play scummy on purpose again, I might not.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:30 GMT
#130
I don't like what Palmar is doing, seems more like something mafia Palmar would do.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:31 GMT
#131
Sort of wary of Onegu as well
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:32 GMT
#132
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:40 GMT
#138
Zealos is town, any objections?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:45 GMT
#145
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
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On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:49 GMT
#149
On May 18 2015 07:33 sciberbia wrote:
@Damdred
I agree with Vivax that Palmar could still be scum. What if he is scum and he's just calling you scum to make it look like he's doing something? He may not necessarily be hoping to get you lynched.


Damdred why didn't you answer to this yet?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 22:56 GMT
#151
On May 18 2015 07:53 Damdred wrote:
Because i'm only answering things haphazardly and in such a huge game I miss things from skimming.

Theres not really an objective answer at this time, could Palmar be mafia? Objectively yes, could he be doing this as scum? Quite possible.

Just a gut reaction/read with some other things that I feel *shrug*


I notice a lack of motivation
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 23:12 GMT
#155
On May 18 2015 08:06 sciberbia wrote:
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On May 18 2015 07:45 Vivax wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:41 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?

lol yes I object. What do you think of my post?


I see nothing scummy in not being completely confident into your conclusions, cause that's what it sounds like. Not that "wishy washy" buzzword you just used.

As I see it he actually tried to deepen analysis on Damdred but doesn't feel too strongly about his conclusions. That's townie.

You're starting to worry me scib. But let's let this play out for a bit.

That's interesting because I was expecting you to scumread him with me. As I'm sure you'd agree, there's a difference between being wishy-washy and posting unsure conclusions. If he had concluded, "I have found some small reasons to suspect that Damdred is scum", then I would have been more-or-less fine with his post.

What is wishy-washy is saying something and then immediately retracting it or modifying your previous statement to make it less forceful.
"I'd lean slighty mafia BUT I'm not convinced honestly."
"Having said that, he has been forced on the defensive."

This sort of posting is typical of scum who want to look like they are saying something of substance, yet either fear retaliation from a town Damdred, fear looking bad if/when Damdred flips town, or are trying to delicately play a bussing situation.


Okay, I'll move him back to null cause you made me unsure.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 17 2015 23:14 GMT
#157
On May 18 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure how i'm lacking motivation lol?


You answered really superficially and still didn't seem to look in detail at what sciberbia asked of you.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 18 2015 15:38 GMT
#262
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 18 2015 15:41 GMT
#264
On May 19 2015 00:40 Zealos wrote:
I mean scib is contributing from a towny standpoint so far, I'm just worried that his association with Damred is a bit off


The word standpoint exists in english?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 18 2015 15:46 GMT
#267
On May 19 2015 00:42 GlowingBear wrote:
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On May 19 2015 00:38 Vivax wrote:
The thing with scib is that he's an amazing player and while I had an agenda-y feeling about him at some point he's definitely nobody I want to lynch today. I actually might just sheep him and see if he wins the game for us or lynch him if he doesn't.


Is he?
I've never heard of him before.


He didn't play many games but for some reason he's super good as either alignment.

Safe bet to sheep if you TR him, I still have to decide if I take that risk.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 18 2015 16:13 GMT
#281
In case anyone's interested I'm leaning scum on Palmar and Obi.

Just from past things and a little re-skim
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 15:13 GMT
#507
Time to reread
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 15:30 GMT
#511
Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 15:34 GMT
#513
Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 19:39 GMT
#617
On May 20 2015 04:34 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 04:29 Qwerty! wrote:
On May 20 2015 04:27 The Shining wrote:
No...Why? Should I?
if u want to lynch vivax... you probs should

vivax has changed his town playstyle to do zilch and get lynched


It's really irritating if he is town because you are supposed to play to win the game. Like it's stated in the rules that you are not supposed to intentionally play like shit.

But if you think that he is going to intentionally play like shit as either alignment then I think that is basis for a policy lynch if nothing else. Plus Palmar's points were pretty OK and I was leaning scum on him originally in any case.

Dunno if it matters, but I'm just gonna throw my vote on Vivax. I'm not completely confident on Obi, and Vivax should not be allowed to live. He said he would be back between 8pm and 9pm in Austria and it's now 9:30.

##unvote
##vote Vivax


I play to win the game, I just post less and with less effort on D1s until people stop lynching me for inactivity, that's not against the rules, it just furthers my wincon across all my games.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 19:40 GMT
#618
And like in Assassination you will still get my reads and some more reasoning.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 19:53 GMT
#631
Seems I don't have enough time for a thorough reread.

Anyway you know about my Palmar read. I just don't think this is his town play, simply put. Can't explain it. There's just no feeling behind it that he is willing to solve the game.

I scumread Obi based on the question GB loved. The thingy where he asks why a guy resorts to policy or something. I don't think that's a serious question, as in it's faked. Can't explain why in detail.

Sciberbia felt suspicious to me in the beginning, but the high activity makes it hard for me be confident about this. Anyway he's a good target for a coop check.

Damdred, no idea, he seemed a bit afk at the beginning I guess, also the post where he says something then just accepts it as it is.
Onegu, can easily be mafia. He's usually a bit more headstrong than that in picking his lynches.

For post-lynch, look at who agrees with Palmar's points and who pushes the wincon stuff. If they do both they might be lying.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22104 Posts
May 19 2015 19:58 GMT
#634
Good thing I'm just VT!
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