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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
May 19 2015 18:58 GMT
#581
On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.


Alternative (C): I think your case is good and Vivax might be Mafia, but I think Shockey has a better shot on being scum.

I just want to understand why you townread him.
I'm adorable.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:03 GMT
#582
On May 20 2015 03:57 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't need to justify a vote that obviously isn't serious and I have no idea why you're so hung up on that idea.

As for the purpose of it, it was mostly me letting people know that I would return to the thread at a later date to do stuff.

1) You didn't answer the question: what was your opinion of Damdred's alignment when you made that post?
2) Also, what are you referring to "fixing" if not your vote on Damdred?

3) Lastly, why did you want to know Stutters' opinion of Damdred? You never show any interest on Stutters anywhere else in your filter? You never push or defend Damdred. Why, of everything that you could possibly comment on when you returned to the thread, did you want to know Stutters' read on Damdred?


1) Maybe town.
2) Changing it I guess.
3) Because stutters said he didn't want to lynch him but didn't explain why.
Retired.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 19 2015 19:04 GMT
#583
On May 20 2015 03:51 Palmar wrote:
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?

Like I said I'm fine with lynching Vivax. If Obi satisfactorily answers my questions I'll even consider switching my vote. But the elsuive Obi is currently in the thread and I want to know if he's mafia.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 19 2015 19:05 GMT
#584
I'm here. Catching up. Still alive. Heart shyt can be scary, guys. =/ I tried to get back on last night but I was too drugged up to fairly read any posts and hope to retain anything. LOL.

I really hate that I'm showing up this close to EoD, sorry. I want to refer to a few filters before I put all my reads out there but for right now, I'm pretty sure on Damdred town and Palmar is a townlean. Barring any surprises in Vivax filter, I could probably sheep this case. I just want to dive into it a bit more.

Looks like Shockey's D1 tinfoil is the reason he's up for lynch? Victim of confirmation bias, it looks like. But honestly, it looks like a paranoid townie stuck in a bad tunnel.

Obi's got somewhat of a carefree, if lazy, attitude but doesn't seem to be shying away from questions or giving reads. Not sure I could lynch him today.

Also, I'm a guy GB, not a girl XD not that it matters but meh lol.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:07 GMT
#585
The elusive Obi.

I like it.
Retired.
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 19 2015 19:10 GMT
#586
On May 20 2015 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:57 sciberbia wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't need to justify a vote that obviously isn't serious and I have no idea why you're so hung up on that idea.

As for the purpose of it, it was mostly me letting people know that I would return to the thread at a later date to do stuff.

1) You didn't answer the question: what was your opinion of Damdred's alignment when you made that post?
2) Also, what are you referring to "fixing" if not your vote on Damdred?

3) Lastly, why did you want to know Stutters' opinion of Damdred? You never show any interest on Stutters anywhere else in your filter? You never push or defend Damdred. Why, of everything that you could possibly comment on when you returned to the thread, did you want to know Stutters' read on Damdred?


1) Maybe town.
2) Changing it I guess.
3) Because stutters said he didn't want to lynch him but didn't explain why.


1) Can you be a little more specific here? On which side of null is "maybe town"?
2) Changing your vote? So you are in fact explaining why you are leaving your vote on Damdred?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 19 2015 19:11 GMT
#587
Shining is a woman will tell why later.

Reads change GB palmars case is good its day 1. He doesn't suck yet and vivax has fallen off the face of the earth and just doesn't care.

Ecen in assassination mafia when he says he won't care if he's lynched to break his meta he still really cared but I don't see anything like that here.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#588
1) "Maybe town" means the towny side of null.
2) Sure.
Retired.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#589
On May 20 2015 03:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.


Alternative (C): I think your case is good and Vivax might be Mafia, but I think Shockey has a better shot on being scum.

I just want to understand why you townread him.

On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.



Essentially he's too scummy to be scum, with the flavor that no matter his alignment he's clearly putting at least some brainpower into these associative reads and connections. This is opposed to Vivax who is putting zero brainpower into the game at all.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:13 GMT
#590
I don't understand why you're so hung up on me keeping my vote on Damdred anyways. It's really not that big a deal.
Retired.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 19 2015 19:13 GMT
#591
On May 19 2015 17:00 Qwerty! wrote:
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On May 19 2015 16:55 sciberbia wrote:
OK here's where I'm at.

Not that these are all hard town reads, but I don't want to lynch anyone in this list today:
GlowingBear, Onegu, Stutters, Shining, Damdred, Oats, Zealos, Qwerty(?)

This leaves:
Vivax, Palmar, Shockey, Obiwan

No doubt about it, Vivax and Palmar are being lurky, lazy, and making this game harder than it needs to be for us. I think I'm OK with lynching either of them today if they do not contribute more. They would be mostly policy lynches: I cannot pretend to see much in their filters that is scummy.

Shockey is baffling. I think he could be mafia. I think he could be town. I'm not too sure.

Obi could be town, but I've been suspicious of him for quite a while, and I have given him every chance to remedy his lurkiness, and with 12 hours to the deadline he seems content to not do anything. I wish I felt more confident, but I think he currently has the greatest chance of flipping scum. I will explain why shortly.
i would prefer to lynch palmar over vivax by a considerable bit... (vivax seems carefree and somewhat useful, while palmar completely vanishing after making an unexplained push on damdred feels off... town palmar will make unexplained pushes on people for days straight, but generally pops in once in a while to ask for his desired lynch, or just does nothing at all)

i'm really interested in seeing what others think about an onegu lynch...


Now that Vivax is the leading lynch, I'd like to see where Qwerty's thoughts are at. Not lynching/vigging(if we have one) Qwerty seems like it could be a mistake. The read on Onegu seems a bit OMGUS, considering Onegu was the one that posted about Qwerty! in other threads but not here. And it's a toneread, if I'm reading it correctly. Onegu "2srs". I can't buy that. I'm a very serious and passionate townie when I want to be. I need actual reasons why he is scum if you're going to push him.

But he didn't. He responded to 1 Onegu post and then said "everyone, I think Onegu is best lynch." Then peaced out.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:14 GMT
#592
On May 20 2015 04:04 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:51 Palmar wrote:
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?

Like I said I'm fine with lynching Vivax. If Obi satisfactorily answers my questions I'll even consider switching my vote. But the elsuive Obi is currently in the thread and I want to know if he's mafia.

But you already know whether or not he's mafia??
Computer says mafia
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3576 Posts
May 19 2015 19:17 GMT
#593
I'm happy to sheep onto Vivax. I'm pretty sure Palmar is town now, and Damdred is back to null for me I think.

At least my first 2 reads were good amirite...
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Qwerty!
Profile Joined April 2015
106 Posts
May 19 2015 19:19 GMT
#594
It seems that I'm only reading at the rate that you guys are posting... this isn't working.

are we actually killing vivax? would much rather kill obi

##vote ObiWanShinobi
sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 19 2015 19:22 GMT
#595
On May 20 2015 04:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't understand why you're so hung up on me keeping my vote on Damdred anyways. It's really not that big a deal.

No the problem is not that you left your vote on Damdred. Here is the problem.

You supposedly have a leaning town read on Damdred. However, Damdred is under a great deal of attack from several people in the thread. There are 4 votes on him and it looks like he might even be lynched.

Do you defend your townread? No
Do you question people as to why they are calling Damdred scum? No

You question someone as to why they said they WON'T lynch your town read. That is very odd and not a natural townie instict. The townie instinct if you see one of your leaning town reads being bandwaggoned is to defend him, or at the very least question people who are attacking him. But question people who are defending him? That's just not a natural response.

Then your wording as to how Damdred plausibly could be town, under normal usage of this phrase, really implies that you do not think Damdred is town. Finally, it is really awkward that you say this in the context of justifying leaving your vote on Damdred longer.

Obi: troll vote on damdred
Obi: even though damdred might be town, I'm going to leave my troll vote on him a little longer

It really really bothers me.

To everyone else, I agree Obi seems carefree/laid back. It is one of the reservations I have about him being mafia. But notice when that now, after I got 3 votes on him, is when he becomes much more active/responsive. It's suspicious.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:22 GMT
#596
On May 20 2015 04:19 Qwerty! wrote:
It seems that I'm only reading at the rate that you guys are posting... this isn't working.

are we actually killing vivax? would much rather kill obi

##vote ObiWanShinobi


Wait, what? Why?
Retired.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 19 2015 19:22 GMT
#597
Yeah im fine with a Vivax lynch.

##Unvote

##Vote: Vivax
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 19 2015 19:23 GMT
#598
Yeah def not lynching Obi, look at that wagon.
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sciberbia
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1359 Posts
May 19 2015 19:23 GMT
#599
On May 20 2015 04:14 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 04:04 sciberbia wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:51 Palmar wrote:
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?

Like I said I'm fine with lynching Vivax. If Obi satisfactorily answers my questions I'll even consider switching my vote. But the elsuive Obi is currently in the thread and I want to know if he's mafia.

But you already know whether or not he's mafia??

Dunno what you mean by this unless you're implying I'm mafia. Anyway, what do you think of my last post on Obi?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 19 2015 19:24 GMT
#600
On May 20 2015 04:22 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 04:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I don't understand why you're so hung up on me keeping my vote on Damdred anyways. It's really not that big a deal.

No the problem is not that you left your vote on Damdred. Here is the problem.

You supposedly have a leaning town read on Damdred. However, Damdred is under a great deal of attack from several people in the thread. There are 4 votes on him and it looks like he might even be lynched.

Do you defend your townread? No
Do you question people as to why they are calling Damdred scum? No

You question someone as to why they said they WON'T lynch your town read. That is very odd and not a natural townie instict. The townie instinct if you see one of your leaning town reads being bandwaggoned is to defend him, or at the very least question people who are attacking him. But question people who are defending him? That's just not a natural response.

Then your wording as to how Damdred plausibly could be town, under normal usage of this phrase, really implies that you do not think Damdred is town. Finally, it is really awkward that you say this in the context of justifying leaving your vote on Damdred longer.

Obi: troll vote on damdred
Obi: even though damdred might be town, I'm going to leave my troll vote on him a little longer

It really really bothers me.

To everyone else, I agree Obi seems carefree/laid back. It is one of the reservations I have about him being mafia. But notice when that now, after I got 3 votes on him, is when he becomes much more active/responsive. It's suspicious.


A) I questioned stutters before I changed my read on Damdred.
B) It doesn't fucking matter.

As for me being more active when I have votes on me, it's almost like I'm trying not to be lynched. :o
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