THATS NOT A FUCKING LEGITIMATE ARGUMENT MAN.

Also, you have the burden to prove that they are scum, not the other way around.

Your connection/association thing is bonkers, is there anything else behind that?

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 19 2015 14:22 GMT

#502

Why is holyflare being so inactive btw?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:23 GMT

#503

Wrong game? Cause there's no holyflare here.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 14:54 GMT

#504

On May 19 2015 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:

Show nested quote +

Check Palmars filter, he mentions who he thinks is mafia:

damdred (joke)
Zealous (removes the idea of it)
Vivax (removes the idea of it)

His shitlist contains:

Onegu
GlowingBear
Zealos

Not one mention of Obi - why? Because he's trying to distance himself from his partner. Palmar voting also explains something different than his posting and reads. He votes for damdred just cause GB, making some kind of connection between them, but as soon as I accuse Palmar (I still didn't vote), his vote instantly turned to me. Now his partner Obi comes along a few hours later and just votes for me too, why? No reason "yoloswag".

Now this post comes off as two ways:

On May 19 2015 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly I shouldn't even try to argue: I townread Palmar or back off of him for awful reasons literally all the time and I don't trust myself to read him fairly.

Sounds like another scheme to try and distance themselves in the midsts of me accusing them. Though their voting says something completely different, why vote for me if my reads seem too crazy for everyone?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

May 19 2015 15:12 GMT

#505

You do realise that his shitlist isnt a scumlist?

Palmar hasnt been playing this game seriously at all in the first 24 hours, why didnt you use posts that are more recent.

Also no reasons in that post that say why Palmar or GB or Obi are scum independent of their "connection".
you cant just say "oh these 3 people are mafia because they agree with each other".

##vote Shockeyy

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 19 2015 15:12 GMT

#506

Technically when you distance yourself from a partner you don't do it by ignoring him.

Vivax

22096 Posts

May 19 2015 15:13 GMT

#507

Time to reread

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

May 19 2015 15:13 GMT

#508

Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 19 2015 15:27 GMT

#509

On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.

Palmar, the problem here is that I debunked his whole case on me and when showing that he was wrong, he simply decided to ignore those points. I've caught him straight up lying about my list post, for example.

And when I asked him to assume, hypothetically, that I'm town (which simply destroys any association), he gave a scumread out of association.

He is simply calling 3 people Mafia and not caring for the rest of the game. He made a group and is trying to get this group lynched, but has NO opinion on other players.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

May 19 2015 15:29 GMT

#510

So Qwertys posts are a big disappointment after that wait. I would definitely lynch him. Those posts show almost no understanding of what's going on, like he hasn't read any of the thread. His reads are incredibly questionable on his suspects and the content isn't there after AFKing for the fuck of it.

Vivax

22096 Posts

May 19 2015 15:30 GMT

#511

Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:32 GMT

#512

What? I don't remember you catching me in anything.

ObiWanShinobi - Scum
Stutters695 - Possible town/mafia
Palmar - Scum
The Shining - Possible mafia
Onegu - null
GlowingBear - Possible town/mafia
Damdred - town
Vivax - town
ShoCkeyy - town
Oatsmaster - town
sciberbia - null
Qwerty! - mia - weird - null
Zealos - Possible mafia

Vivax

22096 Posts

May 19 2015 15:34 GMT

#513

Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 19 2015 15:35 GMT

#514

Dude you said my list post is just a copy paste of openings when it has way more information in it. You also said it brings nothing new to the table when it was the first post to raise suspicions on sciberbia

And when I show you this, you don't take a step back.

Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads?

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

May 19 2015 15:39 GMT

#515

On May 20 2015 00:30 Vivax wrote:
Going to a friend so I'll keep being lazy and just sheep scib's big case, plus I had a feeling Obi was scum earlier. So seems like a win-win.

##Vote Obi

Will probably be back around 8-9 PM my time.

This isn't enough Vivax, you know that.

Did you even read scib's case or no?

ObiWanShinobi

United States8089 Posts

May 19 2015 15:41 GMT

#516

There's not even a case there. It's like...Just a bunch of random things based on me being lazy/casual and trying to sell it as a scumtell.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 19 2015 15:46 GMT

#517

Palmar why did you park your vote on Shockey?

Oats, what made you scumread Shockey?

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:48 GMT

#518

On May 20 2015 00:34 Vivax wrote:
Can we get a wagon on Obi within the time I'm away? You going to push it Shockey?

Of course I will.

On May 20 2015 00:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Dude you said my list post is just a copy paste of openings when it has way more information in it. You also said it brings nothing new to the table when it was the first post to raise suspicions on sciberbia

And when I show you this, you don't take a step back.

Tell me this: if Damdred IS Mafia, how does it changes your reads?

Ok, what information did it bring to the table? If it raised suspicions on sciberbia, then why has no one talked about him? He's actually been pretty active and seems to be asking the right questions from a town point of view.

Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads.

On May 20 2015 00:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's not even a case there. It's like...Just a bunch of random things based on me being lazy/casual and trying to sell it as a scumtell.

It is scum in plain sight.

ShoCkeyy

7815 Posts

May 19 2015 15:50 GMT

#519

Just to confirm I was reading it right too before:

On May 18 2015 13:11 GlowingBear wrote:

I never said he is, although he is. Just posting nonsensical scumreads without good reasoning or any reasoning at all

Why does it matter and what do you think of what I've just said?

So I ask again, what information did you bring to the table if they don't have any good reasoning?

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 19 2015 15:52 GMT

#520

On May 20 2015 00:48 ShoCkeyy wrote:

Show nested quote +

Of course I will.

Show nested quote +

It is scum in plain sight.

I've showed how WEIRD that interaction between sciberbia and Damdred was. Sciberbia saying that Damdred had good reasoning without when Damdred's reasoning was very flawed was horrible.

"Damdred isn't mafia, so it doesn't change my reads"

Please.
If you guys don't lynch this guy today I will be mad.