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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 12:50 GMT
#495
I have no idea if I actually want to lynch you Spock. I voted you because you quoted a random post from Vivax and said that it somehow swayed you towards me and Obi which was completely retarded.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 13:12 GMT
#496
Like I might not actually reach a conclusion today. We'll see.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 14:22 GMT
#502
Why is holyflare being so inactive btw?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 15:12 GMT
#506
Technically when you distance yourself from a partner you don't do it by ignoring him.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 15:13 GMT
#508
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:32 GMT
#538
On May 20 2015 00:27 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.


Palmar, the problem here is that I debunked his whole case on me and when showing that he was wrong, he simply decided to ignore those points. I've caught him straight up lying about my list post, for example.

And when I asked him to assume, hypothetically, that I'm town (which simply destroys any association), he gave a scumread out of association.

He is simply calling 3 people Mafia and not caring for the rest of the game. He made a group and is trying to get this group lynched, but has NO opinion on other players.

I think none of this necessarily makes him mafia.

He could be, who knows.

But I just don't think that's the case.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:33 GMT
#539
On May 20 2015 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar why did you park your vote on Shockey?

Oats, what made you scumread Shockey?

Because he said some random shitpost from vivax helped form his reads.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:35 GMT
#541
On May 20 2015 01:01 GlowingBear wrote:
If you were the conspiracy newbie people are saying, you would never not be afraid of being pocketed by Mafia (being pocketed = townreading and being their puppet)

Technically this is wrong by definition because the whole reason mafia pocketing exists in the first place is that people are not always on the lookout for it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:36 GMT
#542
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:49 GMT
#546
Actually I changed my mind again, let's lynch Vivax. The accusation against him is that he doesn't really want to lynch Damdred. This has nothing to do with Damdred's alignment (which happens to be mafia too, but that's subject for a later discussion).




Point 1


This is the primary point of the case on Vivax. He calls Damdred out multiple times without ever acting on it.

On May 18 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom


First accusation againsdt Damdred. Apparently Damdred's townread on me is based on nothing and not worth listening to if you're Vivax.

On May 18 2015 07:56 Vivax wrote:
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On May 18 2015 07:53 Damdred wrote:
Because i'm only answering things haphazardly and in such a huge game I miss things from skimming.

Theres not really an objective answer at this time, could Palmar be mafia? Objectively yes, could he be doing this as scum? Quite possible.

Just a gut reaction/read with some other things that I feel *shrug*


I notice a lack of motivation


Second accusation and this is a very serious one. Lacking motivation to solve the game is one of the primary scumtells in mafia. If Vivax sincerely believes that Damdred lacks motivation to solve the game he should be all over Damdred trying to get him lynched.

I don't think Vivax believes what he is saying.

On May 18 2015 08:14 Vivax wrote:
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On May 18 2015 08:05 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure how i'm lacking motivation lol?


You answered really superficially and still didn't seem to look in detail at what sciberbia asked of you.


Third accusation (although it ties in with the second). Not only did damdred lack motivation, his answer was also "really superficial" which is another very strong scumtell in general mafia play.

So in conclusion, Vivax has said three things about Damdred

1) He lacks motivation to solve the game
2) He posts superficially
3) He posts useless wifom that cannot be used for conclusions

These are very, very serious accusations against Damdred.

Then Vivax proceeds to never talk about Damdred again, almost as if he forgets the posts above and goes on to vote Obi as a lazy sheep vote without even trying to push his own ideas in the thread.

This makes Vivax mafia every time.



Point 2


This is a much weaker point but it's still relevant. I have already said this so I'm just quoting my earlier accusation.

On May 19 2015 18:20 Palmar wrote:
Vivax is mafia because of this:

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On May 18 2015 07:25 Vivax wrote:
Well I read my role PM now so I'm sure I can post this:

On May 18 2015 05:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 18 2015 05:35 The Shining wrote:
GB explained why he thought Damdreds entrance was scummy. By doing so, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a joke.

Stutters, Shockeyy, Obi. Names in filter for reminder. Three entrances with afk excuses/lack of playing right now. Please fix this before eod so I don't have to plynch kthx


Since when have you been so interested in plynches?


This is a question that looks like it's coming from scum Obi.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:30 Vivax wrote:
I don't like what Palmar is doing, seems more like something mafia Palmar would do.


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:31 Vivax wrote:
Sort of wary of Onegu as well


Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:32 Vivax wrote:
On May 18 2015 07:21 Damdred wrote:
I think its a nonsensical stance for Mafia!Palmar to take at this stage of the game that Damdred is scum.

Especially given how Palmar thinks (highly) about how I play the game and how I eventually gain momentum as the game goes along and if i'm town I can easily get off the mislynch as long as I try anyway. I don't see mafia Palmar going after me early in the game.

Plus hes done this before to me as town I think


Nice pile of Wifom


In 7 minutes he makes 4 scumleans just 3? pages into the game. And it's complete bullshit. Nothing in my filter or Onegu's filter is actually alignment indicative at that point, and the point on Obi is just as bad.

Show nested quote +
On May 18 2015 07:40 Vivax wrote:
Zealos is town, any objections?


Followed by a really quick townread.

Vivax isn't good enough to throw reads out like this. So I kinda think he can be mafia.






Point 2.3


This is a shitty point so it only counts for 0.3 real points.

Vivax has been super inactive.





It's time to kill mafia guys. I'm actually good at day 1 stuff so please at least give this case a chance.

##Unvote
##Vote Vivax


Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:50 GMT
#547
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:58 GMT
#553
On May 20 2015 01:54 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 01:50 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax

I can get down with Vivax actually, but enlighten me as to why you suspect Damdred. I haven't checked him out in a while, but I had him as pretty solid town.

It's just a shitty tone read tbh. I haven't made a case on him because I don't really have a case on him. This Vivax thing is much better.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 16:59 GMT
#555
done.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 17:56 GMT
#565
On May 20 2015 02:16 Zealos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 02:15 Damdred wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:58 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:54 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:50 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 20 2015 01:36 Palmar wrote:
Fuck it.

Don't you idiots dare lynch shockey. It's an objectively bad lynch.

Lynch Damdred. He is mafia.


I don't actually know why you want to lynch Damdred so badly.

Changed my mind, now we lynch Vivax

I can get down with Vivax actually, but enlighten me as to why you suspect Damdred. I haven't checked him out in a while, but I had him as pretty solid town.

It's just a shitty tone read tbh. I haven't made a case on him because I don't really have a case on him. This Vivax thing is much better.


I figured that's what it was

you're an annoying human being

This is a town post
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:19 GMT
#570
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:51 GMT
#576
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 18:53 GMT
#579
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:12 GMT
#589
On May 20 2015 03:58 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:53 Palmar wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:21 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 20 2015 03:19 Palmar wrote:
GlowingBear I need you to sheep this case.


I would sheep you if I had a clear townread on you, but I don't yet.

Before I vote Vivax, who I actually think has a good shot on being Mafia, I need to know why Shockey is town.

I don't care what your read is on me, and I don't care whether or not you think Shockey is mafia.

Either you believe my case on Vivax and you lynch him, or you don't.


Alternative (C): I think your case is good and Vivax might be Mafia, but I think Shockey has a better shot on being scum.

I just want to understand why you townread him.

On May 20 2015 00:13 Palmar wrote:
Also at Oats, I'm not sure this makes shocks mafia. Generally people who come up with convoluted and overly complex conspiracy theories are paranoid townes.



Essentially he's too scummy to be scum, with the flavor that no matter his alignment he's clearly putting at least some brainpower into these associative reads and connections. This is opposed to Vivax who is putting zero brainpower into the game at all.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 19:14 GMT
#592
On May 20 2015 04:04 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 03:51 Palmar wrote:
Can we have less talk about things that don't matter and more talk about how much we're going to lynch Vivax?

Like I said I'm fine with lynching Vivax. If Obi satisfactorily answers my questions I'll even consider switching my vote. But the elsuive Obi is currently in the thread and I want to know if he's mafia.

But you already know whether or not he's mafia??
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 19 2015 20:22 GMT
#657
On May 20 2015 05:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred 300% Mafia

Yes, you might be too.
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