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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2015 04:47 GMT
#712
On May 20 2015 13:46 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 08:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Just getting out of work, will read up later, but the bandwagon on vivax? Really?....



I really dont like this post. Just gives me the Heebie Jeebies.

Why does it give you the Heebie Jeebies.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 20 2015 04:54 GMT
#714
On May 20 2015 11:56 sciberbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2015 11:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 20 2015 11:00 sciberbia wrote:
On May 20 2015 10:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
qwertys switch looks really bad, 2bad2bscum is not a thing.


This isn't even a 2bad2bscum thing. Changing your vote at the last second to a different candidate isn't a bad play, if you really think there is new information that makes the person you were previously voting more likely to be town.

And Vivax turned out to be town. So the case on qwerty, if any, is really 2good2bscum. It boils down to:

Do you think it is possible that he really had a change of heart on Vivax and decided Vivax looked more townie? (I do)
Do you think it is possible that he really thought a voteswitch was possible? (I do)

Do you think that he was trying to make himself look better post-flip by waffling around at the last second? (I don't)

The only way you can answer yes to this last question is if you think qwerty is a moron. I could have told you 1000 times out of 1000 that he would get flak for that switch. And at least 3 people have already called him out on it.

I know I'm defending qwerty pretty hard but I just have a really gut feel that he is town. I remember this game from forever ago, Newbie Mini XV, in which funnily enough, Vivax self-voted at the end of day 2, and multiple townies suddenly thought he was town, but figured there wasn't time for a vote switch. I feel like I have seen other cases like this as well.

Well no, some people were bringing up the point that scum wont so obviously switch off a mislynch. I think they would.

And it is definitely to make himself look better. There is literally no other reason, as town or mafia to switch so late without other people doing it.



Is it not possible that he was trying to get Obi lynched? If he gets like 2 or 3 more people to switch then Obi gets lynched instead of Vivax. There were like 5 minutes left - it's like not completely impossible. Personally I was pretty borderline between the two. I could maybe have been persuaded to switch if Vivax had made a more well thought-out reads post.

If qwerty was just doing it to make himself look better I would say he has to be mafia 100%. But I don't see why he can't really have been trying to get Obi lynched. A bit naive/optimistic of him maybe, but I find it plausible.

I dont think so, qwerty never explained why vivax was suddenly town, or obi was suddenly scum.
It really looked a lot to me like qwerty didnt really care whether vivax or obi was lynched and just switched off because he wanted to look good.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 02:06 GMT
#818
Do you still want to lynch obi today or stutters qwerty?

I hate stutters excuses.

Is onegu scum qwerty?

Meh I agree with scibs reasons.
good.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 02:35 GMT
#821
On May 21 2015 11:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 11:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
Do you still want to lynch obi today or stutters qwerty?

I hate stutters excuses.

Is onegu scum qwerty?

Meh I agree with scibs reasons.
good.


What did scib say that you're agreeing with?

qwerty not scum for switching to you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 02:37 GMT
#822
Shockey, who is scum now since 2 of your scumreads flipped town?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 04:12 GMT
#830
On May 21 2015 11:45 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Shockey, who is scum now since 2 of your scumreads flipped town?



Two of my scum reads? I've only read palmar and obi as scum and one of them has flipped town. I was even aligned to Vivax early who turned out to be town as well.

ObiWanShinobi - Scum
Stutters695 - Possible town/mafia
Palmar - Scum
The Shining - Possible mafia
Onegu - null
GlowingBear - Possible town/mafia
Damdred - town
Vivax - town
ShoCkeyy - town
Oatsmaster - town
sciberbia - null
Qwerty! - mia - weird - null
Zealos - Possible mafia

Reposting my original list so you can see with your eyes.

what the fuck is the difference between possible town/mafia and null????

Also, you said glowing bear and palmar were in CAHOOTS and glowing bear is a confirmed town, so is palmar.
So im correct and you still havent answered the question.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 04:13 GMT
#831
On May 21 2015 12:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 11:47 ShoCkeyy wrote:
On May 21 2015 11:37 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 21 2015 11:29 ShoCkeyy wrote:
What in the fuck? Palmar the VT has been killed! what a straight up buzz kill on my suspicion of him. I still suspect Obi how ever, throwing your weight around behind Palmar first day lynch on Vivax so he can save you from being lynched so you can just turn around and kill him off so he would of never accuse you of being mafia.

Next up in line for my read Zealos

On May 19 2015 00:00 Zealos wrote:
On May 18 2015 15:52 sciberbia wrote:
On May 18 2015 15:41 Zealos wrote:
Hasn't offered any reasoning, or anything of use to the thread, AND miss spelt my name

I agree with your characterization of Palmar's play thus far. I think most of the thread would agree that Palmar's early play leaves a lot to be desired.

If you have time, could you give your opinion of ObiWanShinobi? Similar to Palmar, he has popped in and out of the thread, made some random posts, and not offered any reasoning or anything of use to the thread. Would you also consider voting him, or is there a difference between him and Palmar that makes Palmar more suspicious in your eyes?

RE: ObiWanShinobi
I think it's pretty useless to make much of a read on him yet. I want him to post more, but during the first day it's hard to say whether inactivity is disinterest in day 1 or whether its something more scummy.

Comparing him to Palmar, I feel like Palmar is more destructive than Obi.



How is that purely scum motivated?


Because between Vivax, Stutters and I we almost lynched the real scum and it would of been a 10/2 situation, so of course, Palmar goes parading around with a vivax case and you found opportunity to save yourself and make it a 9/3 situation. It's pretty clear, prepare to get lynched today, I'll make sure I revenge Vivax.


Your analysis literally boils down to "Obi is mafia because he's mafia, so he saved himself because he's mafia."

Wtf is this?

I completely do not understand that paragraph considering nobody flipped scum yet .
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 07:35 GMT
#841
I might lynch damdred if you could be arsed to convince me.

If not, im lynching shockey.
im just not seeing this shit being townie man obi
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 21 2015 14:42 GMT
#856
On May 21 2015 23:39 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2015 16:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On May 21 2015 14:59 Damdred wrote:
Guys GB won't be playing for a year after I'm lynched.

Anyway shockey is a bad lynch eight now I think even though he's being kinda meh.

Anyway, zealos is a good lynch


People weren't even talking about lynching Shockey, what is this shitty defense on him, shifting discussion to zealos instead?

Also, is obi town?


GB never reading thread, you to good at this game

Are you gonna say anything useful?
Or just sniping the IC.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 02:41 GMT
#905
On May 22 2015 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 22 2015 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
Obi, help us then. Who do we lynch?


Zealos/Stutters/Shockey.

The Vivax case was okay, but the biggest issue with it was that Vivax never even bothered defending himself outside of his EoD reads post that got him lynched. It doesn't concern me at all that Damdred changed his read the way he did because I did the same thing.

I would revisit Damdred if he's still around tomorrow or on lylo or something, but that's it. We need to purge inactives, and if they're town we can't keep them around until lylo because we can't rely on them to make sensible decisions if they're not playing the game.

If they come back and make good posts then we can reassess, but until then this is what needs to be done.

(Plus, shockey is super scummy and we should probably lynch him at some point anyhoezels.)


Okay

You have my sword

Voting Shockey

But why not lynching oats?

Why do you wanna lynch me man, come on.
Same thing last game, you never actually say your reasons, I gotta drag it outta you .
Boring.

bleh qwerty doesnt actually have any scumreads.
Thats not good.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 04:02 GMT
#907
On May 22 2015 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Did I say I want to lynch you?

Did you look at the vote count?

"but why not lynching oats" implies that you want to lynch me.

Nobody else in the game even mentioned me being scum so you cant be asking why they think Im scum.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 04:03 GMT
#908
Also can everyone in the game just fucking vote please.
dont post, dont vote, how do we even know who you want to lynch much less if you are scum or not.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 05:07 GMT
#912
On May 22 2015 13:55 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 13:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Did I say I want to lynch you?

Did you look at the vote count?

"but why not lynching oats" implies that you want to lynch me.

Nobody else in the game even mentioned me being scum so you cant be asking why they think Im scum.



It's more of a question to know how does he reads you.

ok so it was that type of question.

Stutters, please give at least one damn reason why damdred is scum.
come on.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 06:13 GMT
#923
On May 22 2015 14:28 Stutters695 wrote:
Because he's not blue. Enough said.

dude its a closed fucking setup.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 06:14 GMT
#925
On May 22 2015 15:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The scumteam is probably something along the lines of Zealos/Stutters/Shockey.

maybe.
trfel's abscene is not good.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 13:02 GMT
#938
Man, what's with the weird long ass explanation by trfel. Over explanation is bad bad bad bad.
Today shockey, tmr you.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 14:47 GMT
#940
I assume he means its the same damdred in linux and here.

Can you give me a quick rundown of scum damdred ignoring postcount?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 16:33 GMT
#946
On May 23 2015 01:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Oats does it not bother you that Trfel is voting Shockey with you?

nope.

Its like a paragraph long for something that could be a sentence.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 16:38 GMT
#948
Obi, he basically says he bullshitted his read on shockey. And goes on to explain why shockey is scum when its evidently clear that if he bullshitted his initial read, he doesnt have to explain why he changed his mind because he didnt.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
May 22 2015 16:42 GMT
#949
Ok geez, i saw the posts.
meh.

Was wondering if it was worth pursuing further.
Unlikely.
No gg, No skill.
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