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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 13:22 GMT
#320
Okay. bunnies time.

On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:

Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker

Starts with randomly voting sicklucker. kay. Pretty NAI imo.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 08:08 Breshke wrote:
Oh yeah and SL is mafia

##Vote Sicklucker


Glad we can agree on something. Though I am curious, why do you think he is mafia?
I saw something about dumbtelling, but I am unsure exactly what the dumbtell was on.

Agrees with Breshke. Not seeing why. Apparently even Bunnies was not sure why they are agreeing. Not being sure about the dumbtell is a sign of not reading properly. Which I don't like either.

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 08:38 sicklucker wrote:
Breske realizes scum qt was given out 24 hours ago. Would he be this blatantly obv as scum? bunnies are you the veg because you might need to shoot him again


I will neither confirm nor deny I am a role. I'll leave that up for mafia to decide.
However, I could possibly be down for a breshke lynch if we don't lynch you today.

I see a bus in the midst.

From the same post as last quote. First agrees with Breshke and then is like "nah, let us lynch you". Because "I see a bus"?

On May 22 2015 10:54 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Everyone who is considered a newbie, answer this: What is the most important thing you think has happened in the game so far?

I like this question. But it is a really general question. Not sure if it would be hard for mafia to ask stuff like this.

On May 22 2015 11:09 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Give me substance BM! I know you can do it!

I agree, but again this is a question Mafia could also have asked easily.

On May 22 2015 11:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Sulfurus top town newbie read.
Not lynching for entire game.

Or maybe atleast 2 days

Then this. Can't see how Sulfurus can be seen as more townie than ticktoc of that one post... that had a strange thing in it (the accusation thing I explained earlier)? Pocket attempt? Was the question a setup for Sulfurus they agreed on in their QT? Me no like.

On May 22 2015 12:44 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 12:43 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 12:30 sicklucker wrote:
Plots one post was so null it hurts


I agree

What do you think about bunnies saying she didn't know what reasons I was pushing you for but then going on to say that she would lunch both of us because she thought it could be a bus before I clarified the reason


This is a great question!


+ Show Spoiler +
And you fell right into my reaction trap. Breshke, what do YOU think of this?+ Show Spoiler +

When asked about stuff that I also pointed out the reaction is total deflection and trying to laugh it of. Me no like.


In my book bunnies is not looking good at all. Totally leaning scum. I need to look at a few other ppl, but I guess I am willing to vote on bunnies as of now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 13:24 GMT
#322
EBWOP:
And my last post talks about pretty much 100% of bunnies filter. Besides the early aggression on sicklucker and/or Breshke, a very soft poke on BM and falling in love with Sulfurus I don't see much either.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 13:52 GMT
#338
Ah cool, you are here bunnies.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

Yup. That is why I called it NAI.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

Looking forward to see that.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.


I really like this answer.
Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 13:57 GMT
#342
On May 22 2015 22:54 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote:
Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?


If this was in response to me, I was asking about Bill Murray.

I just posed my thoughts on boxerfred (who I've been abbreviating BF, fyi).


Nope, this wasn't my response to your BM question. Will reread him shortly.
Actually got something to do at work, so that might take a moment.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 15:15 GMT
#359
Okay finished with work. Will be on my way home soon. Should back in around 1h.
First glance at the interaction between ticktoc and BM I got the feeling that BM was just trolling around trying to provoke a reaction from ticktoc, which he got. Otherwise a bit spamy, but I can see towny posts here and there. Will read more carefully when I am back at home. But I still want to see some more action from him today.

@plotspot: You stated that you think that mafia is/was already active in the thread trying to test the waters. Who would you pick out as Mafia?

@Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 16:13 GMT
#370
On May 23 2015 00:32 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 00:15 disformation wrote:
@Sulfurus: Did your reads on Breshke change? Who would be your #2 lynch after Breshke, if he is still your top scum?


He already switched votes to bm. But I can see, how someone could miss this, given that sulfurus already got 5 posts. :p


*facepalm*
Oh my, I am such a genius. :D
Comes from mixing work and mafia I guess.
Anyway you get townie brownie for pointing that out.

@plotspot:
great. looking forward to see what you'll deliver.

@bunnies:
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

Just a friendly reminder.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 16:16 GMT
#371
@scott;
So BM is your top scum read? I like your explanation for that. Do you have a solid #2 atm and why?
Noticed any noteworthy things?
What do you think of the interactions with bunnies and BF?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 16:20 GMT
#372
EBWOP:
Maybe should clarify... was asking about bunnies and BF in general, since there was a bit of interaction going on earlier.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 16:42 GMT
#377
@tictock:
you are asking a lot of questions, which I like.
Last set of your reads states that your #1 lynch is plotspot, breshke is a scum lean and sicklucker is a forced null.

Assuming plotspot does the stuff he promised and looks town of of that, who would you lynch? breshke? Do you have anything you think makes Breshke look like he is scum other than his opening? As described in:
On May 22 2015 12:50 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 12:19 Breshke wrote:
Bunnies how can you think it is a bus without even knowing what I was pushing SL about? It was because of his early tow read on disinfo saying he was town because he wasn't stunned by a scum qt and was posting early which didn't make sense because Qts were given out 24 hours prior. He then went on to do nothing useful.

Did I think this was scummy yes. As scummy as I made it seem I believed it to be no. I know SL can be lazy D1 so I thought some pressure would be good for him to get him involved hence why I liked bats post because it was the same thought process I was following so it likely makes bats town.

I still am fairly unsure on SLs alignment but that's nothing new but it did give me a read on bats and SL isn't being lazy.

@sulf you have a problem with me tunnelling SL for bad reasoning so does that mean you think his read on disinformation was a good one or? Could you explain why anything I've said that could make SL scum be wrong

This is a decent explanation, but I don't like how much he disregarded while tunneling SL. Not a strong enough case for me to pursue but I'd like to see more from him.

Hoping to see this pick up by the time I wake up.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 16:54 GMT
#378
@Barakos:
Besides me, who else do you read as scum and/or are you willing to lynch. And please explain why.
Also: If you have any other questions for me, feel free to ask.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 17:11 GMT
#383
On May 23 2015 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
Boxerfred is never mafia in this game. I am extremely critical of anyone that thinks they can scumread him for any reason. That said, boxerfred should lay off the role speculation. It's too early to speculate about that stuff.


When you are back later could you highlight some parts that make you think this way?

On May 23 2015 01:58 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 09:05 Breshke wrote:
On May 22 2015 08:57 batsnacks wrote:
@tictok what if you're mafia trying to pocket me with your overtly friendly wiles? I'm onto you mister you best be scared.

Let's all vote SL though. I feel like town SL has close to zero chance of being lynched because he'd never let that happen. Putting pressure on SL and breshke's reads can only lead to good things.

##vote: sicklucker


I really like this post and not even because it's telling people to vote SL the thought process is spot on.

I had kinda forgotten about this post. It actually kinda nullifies my reasons for suspecting Bre in the first place too.

I'll move him to a slight town lean for now.

So if Plots suddenly replaces or something, I'd be willing to get on a BM wagon. Scott is another good target right now I think, he really hasn't done mush more than plots.



Okay noted. Even more townie brownies for you...
and yeah I currently feel a bit like we are waiting on the people who haven't done much to do something (scott/plotspot) and the people who were off (due to timezone/work/sleep/whatever) to get back and give new input. =/
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 17:13 GMT
#384
On May 23 2015 02:09 batsnacks wrote:
Oh and I don't remember any posts from Scott or sulfur.


scott basically hasn't done anything so far and sulfur had that one (mostly) good post that "everyone" loves him for. Really itching to see so more of them today.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 17:31 GMT
#389
On May 23 2015 02:16 batsnacks wrote:
@disinfo No. I don't do the quote/comment on quote thing. What I said about boxerrfred is going to be a take it, leave it, or tell me why it's wrong sort of things.


Kay. Will note that down for later reference.
Was asking because I am not 100% sold on boxerfred.
He pushes the newbie/unsure card quite a bit. Votes on BM and drops that vote as soon as he sees a case, although he admits that he didn't read the case. Can be seen as "as I am mafia I don't care which towny dies anyway."
So I am a bit suspicious.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 18:49 GMT
#400
On May 23 2015 03:44 boxerfred wrote:
Then, I want to point out that batsnacks is limiting himself to short posts, not writing too much. Indicating that a) he's got no time or b) he wants to keep attention to him to a minimum. Can't imagine a c) but I'm not too experienced so maybe someone has an explanation.


He mentioned why here:
On May 23 2015 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
I was leaning scum on bunnies and she made some decent responses. I am critical of her scumread or whatever it is on boxerfred I don't understand how anyone can scum read that guy. If I were near a computer or had more time for anything but a brief update I would probably be filtering bunnies.



Also. Since you like my case but see a lot of town in bunnies, where do you place bunnies now? Who would you lynch as of now and why?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 19:29 GMT
#404
On May 23 2015 04:00 batsnacks wrote:
Also notice how boxerfred has thoughts on me that are totally separate from my hard townread on him. He is seriously top town. Mafia definitely ignores me, happy that I've been pocketed.


I have some difficulty understanding this. A bit tired atm.
Yes he has thoughts on you separate from your town read on him. I can see him getting town points for that. Then you say mafia is ignoring you. I can't remember any pushes on you right now, so okay.

The next part is confusing me. You imply that you have been pocketed by boxerfred, right? And that mafia is happy about that. Wouldn't that make boxerfred more likely to be mafia? Or are you saying mafia is happy about that because his reads are not dangerous to them? What is the purpose of your post? What are you trying to tell me?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 19:44 GMT
#408
On May 23 2015 04:39 batsnacks wrote:
1. I say boxerfred is the towniest town who ever towned.

Mafia boxerfred is thinking "sweet, I got a free townread from batsnacks, he's the greatest." Mafia boxerfred probably doesn't pursue me after this because he doesn't need to. Mafia boxerfred is officially off my radar and safe. If mafia boxerfred does try to communicate with me, he probably makes it about the townread because that is what he is interested in.

Town boxerfred is thinking "hmm... This handsome batsnacks fellow is townreading me for free. Maybe I should ask him some questions and post my thoughts on him."


Cool, thanks.
This actually makes sense for me.
Still not seeing where you get the "the towniest town who ever towned" part from, but I really like this line of thinking.

On the other hand that leaves my list of suspect with a list of people, who still need to answer some questions, and people from other timezones I haven't seen enough of.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 19:58 GMT
#409
On May 23 2015 04:43 boxerfred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 23 2015 03:49 disformation wrote:
Also. Since you like my case but see a lot of town in bunnies, where do you place bunnies now? Who would you lynch as of now and why?

I place bunnies at someone who's really trying to gather information, can't really tell if that's for scum or for town. Tending towards town somehow though.


I want to see a bit more fire!
Scum generally doesn't want the town to collect new information... unless said information turns out to be confusing or distracting for town. Do you get that feeling from bunnies?

Also nothing on the second part of the question... still no idea who to vote for I guess? Keeping options as open as possible makes you look a bit scummy here. Though granted, I don't look much better right now. xD

(for the record: I have a question for bunnies and another one for Sulfurus. Also still haven't seen much from plotspot and scott. Also suspicious of BM. Wouldn't lynch bunnies atm, the others could be candidates for that.)
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 21:01 GMT
#414
Just double checked on the bunnies thing. You are right. The vote also comes before you even mention the word town.
On May 22 2015 07:07 27ninjabunnies wrote:
EBWOP:

Scum
#Vote: Sicklucker


Also:
On May 23 2015 05:55 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 22:52 disformation wrote:
Ah cool, you are here bunnies.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, so let's look at this post.

First off, I actually like you. I disagree with the pushon you.

Noted. Could be an attempt to please me, so I stop pushing you.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Secondly, the vote on SL was due to him first coming into the thread with "Confirmed town".
Troll post=troll vote.

Yup. That is why I called it NAI.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

Looking forward to see that.

On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
When saying Breshke and SL were partners, in part I was joking. I was trying to get some type of reaction from SL, which if I remember correctly I don't think I ever got. It was Breshke that actually started questioning this, which I really REALLY like of Breshke. As SL said, I shot him as vig in a previous game, he was mafia. I usually have a good read on Breshke, and this questioning makes me think that Breshke is town.

So even if I didn't get information out of SL from this (SL prob still my top lynch, followed by newbie Boxer for that awful first couple of posts), I did get information on Breshke's alignment.


I really like this answer.
Haven't looked much at boxer yet, could you highlight some things that sprung out for you? I skimmed it and I didn't see anything that would strongly lead me in either direction. Though he could be mafia trying to play the newb card?



what? now people are sheeping a read that was made up?


Which read to you mean exactly? How was that read made up? Why am I sheeping it?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 21:03 GMT
#417
Also still waiting on:
On May 23 2015 01:13 disformation wrote:
@bunnies:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2015 22:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
However, I haven't moved my vote on SL because SL hasn't done anything to prove to me he is town. I'll go over this a bit later.

Just a friendly reminder.


But bunnies is not around...
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
May 22 2015 21:13 GMT
#420
On May 23 2015 06:01 sicklucker wrote:
vote count? anyone voting disinfo? I might

disinfo can you list your read. I have no idea what your reads are and you posted alot not a good sign


I think there are two votes on me. Barakos and Breshkia. Okay... list post time. *ugh*
I will keep this short, if you want to know more details and why, please ask.

top town: rels, ticktock
town lean: breshkia, batsnacks
please start doing stuff soon: plotspot, scott
scum lean: sulfurus (until he answers my question at least), BM (super defensive and aggressive when Sulfurus voted on him)

rethinking:
bunnies: scum lean (hence the case) -> slight town lean of the answers -> rethinking right now (was probably to easily swayed)
barakos: he is a bit tunnely towards me, but that is okay, need to look at his other reads/interactions
sicklucker: you are trying a lot harder than last game, not sure if that is a good or bad sign for you, so I have you kinda nullish. Your current interactions with me make me lean town towards you.
boxerfred: not sure if new scum or new town
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