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On April 28 2015 20:39 Xatalos wrote: Any estimate for start date? On April 28 2015 13:28 Trfel wrote: Any estimate on when this game will start? On April 28 2015 13:31 Hapahauli wrote: Depends a lot on how fast the game fills. My guess is about a week. you srs? | ||
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On May 07 2015 21:34 Palmar wrote: marv who do you want to win this election thing? Tories | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:28 VisceraEyes wrote: I have chosen...........wisely. I am disquieted by the amount of .... | ||
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On May 08 2015 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote: It's a movie quote. Pay no attention to my nerdiness. ah. excellent. | ||
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On May 08 2015 19:20 Holyflare wrote: Don't think anything has changed other than me surviving past n1 it's nice when mafia leave you alive so you can lynch them, isn't it? | ||
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On May 09 2015 00:25 Damdred wrote: I'm the most over rated player on the forums... Besides bh believe it Nonsense. BH is only overrated by himself. And maybe Slam. | ||
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On May 09 2015 00:43 Damdred wrote: It made me laugh quite hard while I'm having a bad day haha <3 Marv. one day I'll be good at mafia well, if you think you're overrated then I'm one of the ones who overrates you, so I'd say you're pretty good at mafia as it is. | ||
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This postcount thing making people just list reads feels really weird :p I have Damdred as towny and GB as | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:54 Half the Sky wrote: 2/60 I am assuming this is a scumread on BH (and Vivax) by Marv, if it's not, correct me. As town in Titantic 7, Blazinghand did a load of trolling. He sort of did the same in pre-game (or N0 I guess) so I want to know why you appear so sure that BH is scum. Or what it is about him. He was null for me through pre-game and such for a few others. I'm pretty sure I know why marv is scumreading Vivax, but I don't understand his reasoning for BH. Both were only partly serious. At the time BH had only posted some excuse, and he'd slide by it all day if it weren't called out. but he posted a bit since and even though it wasn't great it was at least something. Vivax, yeah. Good record wanting to lynch him when he doesn't post. Excellent. | ||
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Essentially it means we should by lynching BM. On May 11 2015 13:10 Bill Murray wrote: TalkingDead Oatsmaster HalftheSky I've read all three of you pushing suspicions my way When I bag scum with this (Trfel was super active last game, and is literally just skimping by posting to not put his neck out there this game) I want you all to bow down to me. ##Nuke: Trfel BM being BM or not being BM, the bolded reasoning is just nonsense. Game's barely started. Why launch the nuke so soon? There's no reason for it. Time and time again in Ver games mafia are forgiven for really terrible in-thread plays on the basis it's too terrible to be scum. Except it's just ballsy yolo with the expectation of not being punished. Giving posts unannounced to Damdred was also very weird. tldr; terrible shot based on terrible reason, no sweepy under carpetty pls. I don't think this is a town nuke. ##Vote: Bill Murray Random other things - sandroba looks better than other games lately, reads are more indepth, also I like performing a sexy naked dance while his eye is on me My early damdy read good read TalkingDead lynch bad lynch On May 10 2015 09:57 Onegu wrote: Man I really hope I get the traitor just realized I can get that. Then I can be scum!!! Onegu may be mafia, the multiple !!! seem really OTT and follows up with this random post directed at a bunch of people with no meaning behind it | ||
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On May 11 2015 20:50 sandroba wrote: @marv I agree with all your points (BM, onegu, damdred), but I'm having a hard time with the TD town read so if you could go into a little more detail maybe I can be convinced and get over it. The only thing that actually gave me pause was that he insinuated something that I think damdred caught onto as well. I have out-of-thread reasons that I'm loathe to elaborate on unless my hand is really forced (big wagon on him, no-one talking about anyone else as the day drags on) | ||
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You don't get to use me as a pawn, ask yourself dear. | ||
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On May 11 2015 20:58 sandroba wrote: I guess you know whose smurf it is. But both the other reasons I don't agree with. Only a couple people found him suspicious and most others dissagreed or ignored my post on him. Your posting seems a lot different this game. Any specific reason for the lack of enthusiasm? You don't seem to be trying to figure out the game and everything you say seems a bit bland. no, you misunderstand the things I put in brackets were the circumstances where I'd feel like I had to say something, not reasons for anything | ||
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On May 11 2015 20:59 Palmar wrote: No, that's not how it works. You have to tell sandroba why he is mafia or alternatively tell me why he isn't. no, I really don't, because if you want to kill him you need my vote, not the other way round. You know you can't possibly win this, right? ^^ | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:17 KelsierSC wrote: I like what marv has said so far, about BM . I was actually thinking that no scum would make that play because it is so terrible but the reasoning behind the play is so bad that this guy should probably die. marv, what do you think about TD saying this, it came after you had made about 3 posts I believe I think the man has exceptionally good taste. | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:33 GlowingBear wrote: Marv, did you really scumread Onegu over excessive usage of exclamation points? Did you really ask me a rhetorical question in a postcount limited game? | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:38 GlowingBear wrote: Did you really dodge an answer by saying the question was rhetorical when its intention was to make you confirm/get more in depth with it? What more in depth is there to say? Literally everything I had to say about it I summed up succinctly already. | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:45 Palmar wrote: Regarding BM I haven't really read what he did or why. On the surface nuking someone out of the blue seems a rather townie thing to do. maybe now's the time to do so. like i even quoted the post! | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:47 GlowingBear wrote: Come on, marv. What is OTT? Why such specific thing makes the guy Mafia? Why mafia would do that and a townie won't? Also, why scum!Bill would be so bold to launch a nuke over a weak reason this early in the game, drawing so much attention an suspicions to him? because jubjub baddies ask me the question you're just asking me now. Did you even read what i wrote?  OTT = over the top, i.e. he was trying to project a certain emotion but he took it too far. Don't really understand why you're asking me why mafia would do that and townies don't, it's a really standard thing to look for emotion/tone that isn't quite right in posts | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote: Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around ##vote: marv honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. yes and it's total bollocks. big, drooping, smelly bollocks. | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:51 Bill Murray wrote: his case is so reaching it hurts 1) appeal to thread sentiment (many have wnated to lynch me) 2) catch me with my pants down 3) pounce 4) lynch a blue it's scum 101 1 - who wanted to lynch you since your nuke? 2 - yes, very much 3 - yes, very much 4 - almost, wrong colour | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:57 LightningStrike wrote: Morning guys just woke up to see the nuke and anti nuke and Tfrel looking good though afte the nuke stuff  Also Palmar is actually here now so I really want him to bleed town esp because the last 2 times I had played with him he was scum (I was his scum mate in one of those games) and still haven't exactly figured out what makes Palmar scum at all when he's scum. Also the 1 person who calls Palmar Palmer is sicklucker from office when he(sicklucker) sent a pm to Palmer instead of Palmar who was the host for the game. I also liking Sandroba a lot this game he seems very insightful this time around I also don't like BM's early nuke he shoulda saved it for later when we starting seeing scum clearer.@Marv: What are your current reads? @Palmar: Thoughts so far in the thread? Can't tell if srs | ||
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Which sadly makes you less likely mafia. But I won't waste any posts talking to you after this one, unless i want to persue you for something. | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:03 GlowingBear wrote: This makes things easier. ##Vote:marvellosity You're scum. no, I'm not. you're bad though :D | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:06 GlowingBear wrote: No I'm not. But maybe you're town and you're not as good as your status quo says Because calling Onegu Mafia because of OTT is okay, but using a formal argument (excessive exclamation points) instead of just assuming it's a tone read is really bad. You also don't talk much about BM, it's mostly a policy lynch, and when inquired you stay silent/dodge questions. It's like you don't actually read anything that's written? Yes, you are bad, really bad, because you're saying things that should be immediately cleared up simply by reading the thread and/or my posts Like I don't even understand what your point about Onegu is? Tone reads are all based on something, it looked like Onegu was trying too hard to "wish" he was scum through multiple exclamation marks, and his only other post was bleh. What is difficult to understand? What does "using a formal argument" even mean? - Obviously tone reads are based on an actual thing you read? And what's to inquire about BM? Nothing you've asked wasn't explained in my original post I made on BM. It's absolutely the type of thing mafia BM would do, and the fact (already explained if you just read my posts) is that the reason he used for nuking Trfel was exceptionally weak. If it were a town nuke, I would expect there to either be good reasoning or simply no reasoning at all. The reasoning provided was just bullshit because it doesn't add up. Which I already explained. ergo you're bad. | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:09 sandroba wrote: I changed my mind on damdred quite some time ago and have said so already. I was saying that I agree with some of his reads, but I would actually like him to elaborate on something because I have a really bad feeling about his posting so far. His reads all seem very shallow and direct, he doesn't seem to be considering other angles, is very dismissive, disconected from the game like he doesn't really care about the outcome and lacking emotion I usually see in his games as town. Not sure if I really answered your question, but I was really trying to get something out of marv without getting on his face to see how he would interact with me. So far I'm displeased. You understand we're not even 24h through day 1 in a postcount restricted game, right? | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote: Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around ##vote: marv honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it. | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:27 sandroba wrote: I know BM is silly but I don't think this point you make makes him more or less mafia. I think a town would like to justify his actions when pressure is on him just as much as a mafia. I don't understand how you are so sure about this. I can understand and share the feeling of wanting to lynch him regardless just so he doesn't get away with this as mafia and I feel like a tard for letting it happen, but having seen BM's town play I deffinitely think it's just as much possible for him to be town in this spot, no matter how absurd his actions and reasons are. can you show me him doing this like this as town? because i know i can find him doing it as mafia | ||
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On May 11 2015 22:38 sandroba wrote: Not exactly this, but every time I play with him as town I remember him doing something so bad I couldn't wrap my head around. If you could link me to a game where he did something similar as mafia it would definitely help me. Mm. Looking at the database I misremembered, he had this one game as Injustice vigi but it wasn't the same. Maybe there's a game missing because my memory is usually good for these things in any case your defence seems to be "BM is batshit insane" which as defences go is probably the one best applied to BM out of anyone in this game. But i still don't understand the town argument for how he did what he did, whether he's crazy or not. | ||
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On May 12 2015 00:06 VisceraEyes wrote: Marv you've said what you think about the nuke - that you think it was a not-town nuke, and your reasoning. That's all nice. Does that make the anti-nuke not-not-town? Because I'm having a hard time with BH just shooting that out of the sky myself, like...there wasn't even enough time for the nuke to apply any pressure. yeah I mentioned myself that I don't think shooting it down asap was a good play at all. I think to answer your question (in amongst the double negatives) - if BM is mafia, it doesn't necessarily make BH town. but it would point that way (i assume if BH is mafia then mafia is afraid of town nukers and therefore wouldn't waste an anti-nuke on a scumbuddy's nuke) | ||
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On May 12 2015 00:36 Palmar wrote: I have found 3 people that call me palmer consistently. geript, sicklucker, tehpoofter. all my money on geript | ||
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On May 12 2015 01:43 justanothertownie wrote: Vivax is certainly not a policy lynch. Not sure how you can say BM is a policy lynch when he's done actual really scummy stuff and Vivax isn't (although I do agree) when he hasn't posted anything at all | ||
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On May 12 2015 01:59 Bill Murray wrote: yeah it was a mistake i wasnt even wagonning talkingdead for the record i cant be the leading votegetter when I fire a nuke or it doesnt work i dont know why my nuke @ marv isnt working I think the moderator is messed up I even doublechecked my role PM.... OH WELL but back on topic I dont really read into you or talkingdead talking about me as being negative I see you all as likely town. Marv is probably scum for the way that he got a wagon on me when I'm an obvious blue to him. Look who Marv/Palmar are pushing... me and blazinghand... but they are FoSing blazinghand and voting me... Go figure. Jeep tell 101. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484076-assassination-mafia?page=22#430 It got shot down bro. You're not reading the thread. I have no idea what you're saying about BlazingHand. | ||
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On May 12 2015 08:08 GlowingBear wrote: Oh boy. Kelsen. BH IS up for the lynch today. Oh boy. Oh. Boy. no he isn't. | ||
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On May 12 2015 09:13 yamato77 wrote: That's fine and all, but none of the reasons you posted are conclusive for a player like BM. It is a policy lynch, plain and simple. I generally don't do policy lynches. you're not a good enough player to understand what a policy lynch is | ||
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On May 12 2015 18:51 yamato77 wrote: are you going to be useful, or just sit on a shitty lynch? it's an excellent lynch, you're just too bad to get it | ||
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Three people who I think are good lynches, other than BM: Vivax - somehow when I read his posts last night they didn't seem *too* uninteresting. So I was left feeling a little town from it. But in the end, they led nowhere, game has been going on quite a while now, not enough to hang my hat on Oats - promised GB he'd try properly this game. I don't really remember his posts. Xatalos - he's boring. that's enough. I'm not very sure about my earlier Onegu read. I read Onegu + rsoultin arguing last night when I was pretty baked and I couldn't work out what the fuck was going on. Anyone have any bright insights? | ||
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On May 12 2015 18:55 yamato77 wrote: do you have any thoughts on anything BM has posted since he nuked you, or are you just salty? if by "salty" you mean "trying to lynch mafia" then yes, I am salty. I've read everything up to the start of p47 | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:00 TalkingDead wrote: Yes. Can we add RebirthofLegend to said list? We can, ish, but I think that verges a little more into policy, maybe. | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:10 TalkingDead wrote: Is it really a policy lynch to kill people who have 8 posts about nothing interesting that offer nothing of note and more than likely will continue said trend? Because I call that modus operandi. He's a far worse offender than Palmer. At least Yamato has some interesting posts. yes, because you have to use the meta comparisons. Vivax? Very rarely a do-nothing shitter as town. Can't even remember a time, but i'm sure there might have been Palmar? Long history of doing nothing in many games RoL? As far as I'm aware (and as he himself claims) he can be pretty fucking lazy at the best of times so if i want to lynch one of the 3, it's obvious what the better lynch is (imo) yamato? (as you mentioned him) - doing things with opinions. also not afraid to ruffle me | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:21 TalkingDead wrote: Did Bill Murray play in Nuclear Winter? The nuke game that Ace rolled scum in. I am using 1.67% of my day's posts to say no, he didn't, and look at the database you lazy lazy fucker | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:28 TalkingDead wrote: Yah, but do you really want to hear people repeat the argument for the next four phases? Can't you at least consider the policy lynch of "killing him now will annoy me less that having to listen retards talk about him constantly for couple of days"? I'd imagine there's some major appeal for you there. This is a kinda similar argument to what i had in my head, which was: if we don't lynch him now, we're never gonna lynch him. | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:32 TalkingDead wrote: So you're saying I can read your mind... Do tell me more. if you didn't just get naked, you can't read my mind | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:36 sandroba wrote: @marv I noticed a certain absence of stutters in your proposed lynches and would like to know why that is. i just forgot about him. also he doesn't have the meta element that usually tips a low postcount/trying player into being a good/bad lynch. | ||
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On May 12 2015 19:41 sandroba wrote: I changed my mind about jat, but don't you agree with my accessment of vivax and stutters? I think that if you look how both entered the thread and started posting you will see a clear difference. no, I don't agree. Pretty much based on my experience with them both. Stutters has historically been pretty lurky no matter his alignment, and actually I'm not that sure how to read him. Like I can't disagree with what you said on Stutters, but I don't know if it's scummy for him. Vivax I am used to much much more. He struggles to play as mafia. He just came off a mafia game so I'd expect his motivation to play scum again to be pretty low, and I'd expect his motivation to be town again to be pretty high. The best you can say for Vivax is that the few posts he've made have been ok, and that falls a long way short of town-expectation levels and it's in-line with mafia-expectation levels | ||
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On May 12 2015 23:32 sandroba wrote: So you are saying I'm mafia because 1: I said i would keep my eye on marv (????) 2: I didn't rage at GB who I think is town. (????) Which is completely retarded and doesn't make anyone mafia in any world. Despite my current level of activity and the content which I'm posting which I abosolutely never do as mafia because simply I can't keep up. Knowing who the scum team is simply crushes my interest and I have to try really hard to even pretend I have a scum read and I'm a lot more sucint and direct about my reads which I can't justify. You've talked about RoL who I'll give a prise to anyone who can guess his alignment at this point with a good margin of success. You've said you think VE is town, but didn't say why. You haven't talked about Xatalos and Vivax at all which are the main people being discussed. You simply ignored what I've pointed out about BM and read him town randomly. Palmar isn't this bad. He is mafia. I'm not sure I get the rationale of a mafia-Palmar honing in on a target with the history that you have with each other. Palmar's played plenty of games with you (probably only more with me + VE) and realistically if he wanted to choose a prominent player to target, he should have chosen me, because he loves to scumread me no matter my alignment. Instead he chose you, when (if i'm wrong, correct me) you have quite a good history of trying to read each other. I like to think I am pretty good at reading Palmar normally and he can easily get into stupid dumb tunnels as town in the situation of sandroba-town and palmar-mafia, gunning for you seems like a kinda suicidal play with no upsides for him, so i think this can be town-town | ||
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On May 13 2015 00:24 Palmar wrote: You guys can probably just ignore me if I'm town, it's not like I sometimes know what I'm saying on day 1. Marv: explain to me why you don't think sandroba is mafia. More than just a sentence. If I'm wrong on this I'm just wasting my day and it's weird that no one agrees with me. I think I'm also running out of posts but that's okay. I am also being thrifty with my posts until later, but this bears responding to. sandroba's posts this game are much longer and content-filled than in games he's played recently (he's rolled mafia quite a bit). In those games his reads are shallow and forced (to use his own words). In this game he actually makes observations that make sense, and his reads are more organic - e.g. he was pushing jat for his picky tone which I think was valid, and the way he backed off jat was valid too. How he approached me also looks natural, he advanced reasons why he was suspicious of me and asked me questions. added to this is that he appears in the thread at times when he doesn't have to (i.e. when he has time) as opposed to when he is mafia he posts when he absolutely has to. also sand is right, i don't really know why the things you said about him would make him mafia i think if sand is mafia he's chosen this game to play much, much, much better than normal for some reason. i don't really think that's the case his VE read - i think a couple people picked up on that because they didn't like it - well, ok, but VE in years gone by (when sand played a lot more) was MUCH more active than he plays these days. It wasn't an unfair thing for him to think, and i think him saying openly that he wasn't married to his VE read looks ok for him | ||
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I was leaning town on Palmar as well, but I also don't understand how he can ask me a question about sandroba, get a fuller response than I normally bother to give (apparently i like talking about good players or something) and then say "well, marv said all that but my points still stand herp derp" There are also too many outlier votes right now. I dislike Xata a little less than before, but would lynch in a pinch. Still finding it very difficult to believe that Vivax plays like this as town ##unvote ##Vote: BlazingHand I don't believe BH "buys" Palmar's case. I think Palmar's case on sandroba is at best misguided tunnelly town and BH has been around long enough (and played with sand enough) to be able to at least grapple with this | ||
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Conditional Policy Lynch Vigi I can shoot anyone who misuses the term "policy lynch" + Show Spoiler + This may be a lie, but, dear reader, you get my fucking point | ||
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On May 13 2015 05:42 TalkingDead wrote: Because carefree Onegu tends to be town Onegu. A few of his more recent posts have looked far more towny in that regard than his earlier posting. This isn't a bad reason, it's one that I do agree with to an extent On May 13 2015 04:58 Trfel wrote: I think that I want to lynch Onegu today. ##vote Onegu He says this when it benefits himself. He only made one post which I consider "more serious" than his normal play. And he hasn't been following through with this since. But it's his continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin that pushes it over the top. That's just not a towny thing to do. And he hasn't been keeping up with the greater seriousness that he mentioned earlier. His constant frustration at rsoultin is perfectly in line with how he would feel if he loves playing scum and finally rolls scum, but then has rsoultin scumreading him from the very start of the game. This is not a good case. His continual usage of hearts to annoy rsoultin may be dickish, and it may not be a "towny" thing to do, but it's definitely something a towny CAN do. Like is anyone, including you, Trfel, going to sit here and tell me townies aren't fucking annoying and dickish all the time? I'm usually significantly more dickish as town. I townread rsoultin in Ippo because I thought she was being a cow. Your final paragraph reads as "here's the mafia narrative". Ok, well maybe the town narrative is that he's angry at a rsoultin who he perceives as mafia, no-one else agrees with him, and she's antagonising him? There are 2 lynches that I just introduced where I find it hard to say "the townie motivation is kinda likely". Vivax's play is just SO far off his townplay, it's very very difficult to handwave away. BlazingHand saving me, and jumping on a weak case on sandroba while not entertaining the counterarguments is also very very difficult to handwave away with a town motivation. Note: I'm not trying to say Onegu is definitely town here, he may or may not be, but I think lynching him on conjecture is not the right play when we can lynch people with far clearer differentiations | ||
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Can you argue to me that you can't see the townside for what you're arguing, and then can you argue me the townside for what vivax and BH are doing/have done? | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote: waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue It's like you're not even basically reading the thread! :OOOOOOOOOO | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:06 Vivax wrote: I'm VT aka plebeian, you aren't losing much (besides I'd have to be afk the next 1 and a half/two days cause I go camping with a bunch of other people for a birthday party) You know my reads, I don't explain them much, and that's fine cause I've been trying to hard as town in the past. The problem with this whole story is that I've "tried" several times in the past to really handicap my towngame for almost exactly the same reason and I can never follow through with it And while you're not me, the difference is stark as fuck. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:07 Vivax wrote: Many are like "low activity, disjointed posts" and shit and that's gonna be a lesson that meta sucks when people want it to suck. Btw marv why unvote me? Spoilt for choice | ||
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It looks like after I made the comment about not being able to help myself trying when I am town, Vivax also maybe can't help himself. So that's not at all certain anymore. Maybe he's town. I'd say Xata was a better lynch than Vivax at this point, but BH is a better lynch than both BlazingHand made a lolreply (more scumpoints from Palmar for me \o/) to Obi where he altered his quote to try to say "well i do this as town as WELL as mafia". The thing was, in... er... Aperture, kita made quite a good meta case about how scumBH doesn't actually do anything where town-BH is strung into action. And that's what's happening here. The thing with BH is that he's very obviously selectively reading the thread, and disregarding the stuff that he doesn't like. So it goes 1.Palmar case on sandroba 2.sometime later marv makes a sandroba defence 3.BH sheeps 1, disregards 2 Then I also made my case on BH based on this, but BH ignores it completely and later only responds to my post where I lumped him (or something) in with Vivax, and saying he's not like Vivax. but it totally disregards what i said in the first place. So that's 2 strikes. I literally cannot reconcile, at all, how he keeps saying we should sheep this Palmar case d1 when it was a really bad case. Even earlier in the thread he made some post about "Palmar and marv being the only ones possibly more skilled than me" yet it seems like he's totally ignoring me for convenience. | ||
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But i'm pretty sure he did exactly the same thing with sandroba in his last game, so,,,, yea. mm. | ||
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it seems like bh is posting better than vivax at least | ||
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##vote: vivax HtS coming back reminded me i've quite liked her posting and by extension i don't like vivax's read on her | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:44 GlowingBear wrote: I'm never voting with marv ##Vote: BlazingHand Bye do you seriously still think i am mafia?? | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:49 yamato77 wrote: ksc's reads are always terrible he's just town i agree with this, minus the insult i have a game in mind that i can't remember right now that really heavily reminds me of his play here. i'll find it tomorrow if someone prods me. or i'll just remember | ||
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On May 13 2015 18:47 Palmar wrote: Marv is 100% mafia. Sandroba is 100% mafia. I'd love to hear this make it good | ||
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On May 13 2015 21:54 sandroba wrote: The only thing that bothers me about this is I don't think BH uses palmar as justification to vote me if they are both scum. BH was treating palmar as obv town in his spiel and I don't think he does that to a scum buddy. I'm dead set on Palmar being not town and i would be dissapoint if BH were town so I guess there is traitor/secret role possibility between them? I also think that palmar was being honest in this quote and he isn't playing for the end game at all. He's sad before in his "how to play scum if you are good as town" thing that some townies, which he includes himself into, simply can't make it into the end game as scum and their job is to try to get as many mislynches, disrupt the thread as much they can until they are ultimately lynched for not being right, and that's exactly what he is doing this game. yes I also very much think this. | ||
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On May 13 2015 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote: If marv says it's not good, he might actually be scum. Just to be clear - are you saying the case on you is good? | ||
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On May 13 2015 23:59 rsoultin wrote: Quite simply, following a logical train of thought on the presumption that I am right on both you and Blazinghand, you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy to be able to say that you pushed a lynch on your scum buddy if he eventually flipped. You did not follow through. Now why could that be? Yes, that looks scummy. You usually do not do obviously scummy things as scum...you're usually aware of how you look. However, if Blazinghand flips scum you and Trfel will immediately come under suspicion. So yes, I think it's quite possible for you to both push him and then go out of your way to protect him, despite how bad it looks, if you are scum together. If you think this is actually viable re: me pushing BH over and over for random cred I don't know what to tell you, but it's really really really terrible. re: Xata, I thought (and I even mentioned as much in my posts) that he had looked a touch better in his posting in the 2nd half of the day. And then sandroba agreed with me that he didn't want to lynch xata now either, which made me feel better about that pov. And then Damdred said we should maybe give Xata some more time if he's genuinely busy, which also seemed reasonable. btw BM was very likely mafia and you're bad for thinking he wasn't. | ||
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I think point 1 of GB's case is pretty good and I have caught you like that before (LIX).I don't think the point about your reads not matching (BH/BM) is very good, because I don't think it makes much sense at all for me to be mafia with BH (as explained to rsoultin), yet GB did a similar thing when he was calling BH + me mafia. People can and do make reads that don't make sense a lot of the time. | ||
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Plus I already knew BH was an anti-nuker, and if BH was going to shoot Trfel's nuke down and not mine, then I really would be speechless. And I think you can grasp that that doesn't even depend on BH's alignment, so it doesn't matter. Save your scumlet dance for when you actually catch a scum. Dear. dear. Oh dear. | ||
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On May 14 2015 01:36 rsoultin wrote: granted, you're not as fun as me xP well now I can't take anything you say seriously at all. maybe that's the idea | ||
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I can confirm VE's story. jat is as mafia as BM was for his shot (read: very mafia) sandroba died so I get a replacement, which i just invited into the QT. | ||
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On May 15 2015 00:45 rsoultin wrote: you claim that you were in a "mason" qt with marvellosity, flipped scum palmar, and flipped town sandroba, do you not? then scum apparently chooses to kill damdred and sandroba I invited sandroba N1, Palmar and VE at the start of d1. | ||
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But I also figured that if I had invited a mafia, they couldn't assassin me very easily without assassining both the QT members, because that would be pretty dodgy otherwise. Also if I were mafia I could have sniped someone right at the start of d1 with probably no repurcussions at all. | ||
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On May 15 2015 01:29 GlowingBear wrote: That burn tho. Can someone ask marv why did he added Sandroba to the qt? because i like sandroba and he is good | ||
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I guess you missed the "and he is good" bit and also the "I like him" bit | ||
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maybe, but i'm having a nice little titter | ||
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On May 15 2015 02:01 batsnacks wrote: Holy shit this is like pulling teeth... Did you start the game with the item or Are you a vt who received an item? Deeply ironic x | ||
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hence "the one thing" | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:16 GlowingBear wrote: TD and VE: how did marv influenced mason recruits reads on the mason qt, specially at the EoD very little, TD was the one influencing me and VE was away | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:22 VisceraEyes wrote: He was just pretty certain about Vivax being mafia...nothing outside his normal parameters imo. Frankly though, considering his target got lynched he didn't really HAVE to do anything, at least in my QT, regardless of his alignment. note ^ not at EoD | ||
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"outside factors" but ok <3 | ||
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then Trfel made a pretty good post about Vivax and TD (who i was/am pretty sure was town by virtue of the fact he masoned me to start with + nothing he said sounded scummy in QT) was pushing the idea that Vivax might be a good lynch after all, and I switched over | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:29 GlowingBear wrote: So you guys knew marv was a mason recruiter also? i claimed to TD | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:35 GlowingBear wrote: So Palmar knew you were going to put Sandroba in your qt. Marv, why didn't you tell palmar and VE that you were in another mason qt? because i didn't trust them with that information (mostly palmar), whereas i did trust TD | ||
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anyway i'm off for a shower, this line of questioning is extremely boring :p All my actions/posts surrounding it are so obviously explained with a town motive and it's so contorted if i'm mafia, so it's pointless and you should recognise it's pointless | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I realized it ALMOST instantly, but then people started being like "DUH THATS SO MAFIA" so I lost my shit a little bit. I'm fine now. So long as you stop calling me scummy. <3 it was a joke, you bearded sexgod | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:56 GlowingBear wrote: It's the second time marv peaces out because this line of questioning is boring/I am bad that's because the line of questioning is boring and you are bad | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:55 GlowingBear wrote: LS, you don't get it. Marv makes a mason qt with both palmar and VE. He doesn't trust these guys to tell them he was RECRUITED in another qt, but he trusts Damdred, Yamato AND TD (which he trusts is another town mason) to say he IS a POWER ROLE??? Then he ASKS to let Sandroba being added to his qt, and Sandroba is dead at night, and rsoultin is shot at the exact moment she starts suspecting marv and VE Like, come on. like NONE of this is how it happened I trusted TD, I am only in a QT with TD, I didn't tell anyone else but him, yamato and Damdred are nothing to do with it? I didn't "ask" to let sandroba be added to my QT, where are you getting this trash from? | ||
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Anyway I claim we are all mafia, it's all a conspiracy. chortle | ||
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On May 15 2015 15:29 GlowingBear wrote: In other words: Mafia is comfortable with this lynch. Obi, help me thinking please. Do you think it's possible that marvs QT with VE is true but the QTs with TD are fake, meaning yamato/marv/TD are part of a scum team? Only my mafia buddies in my QTs know my current preference xoxo | ||
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On May 15 2015 23:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Morning ladies. Why hasn't the thread run away with itself yet? I was expecting to have to catch up... I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather. It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead. My Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town. Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible. | ||
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On May 15 2015 23:46 ObiWanShinobi wrote: What exactly does this mean? I thought Onegu's read on LS was pretty weird, but what kind of weird were you expecting? batsnacks weird :D | ||
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On May 16 2015 00:31 batsnacks wrote: I want to know what the masons are talking about. Pot and phantom nooses | ||
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and pls, after i saw 2 of your scumgames in a row, your scumbad is totally different from your fucked-up townbad. | ||
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