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On May 07 2015 11:08 Foolishness wrote: Despite you putting my name there, I'm still not playing. The fuck Cmon man | ||
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I'll post reads as I go but I'm somewhat busy atm. Will be more active day 1. | ||
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On May 11 2015 08:16 yamato77 wrote: JubJub list: Obi Bats GB Separate from mafia, these players are just stupid. Yo what gives? @BH: Why am I town? | ||
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On May 11 2015 09:37 rsoultin wrote: you can't read and bh is a moron ^^ yay morons! \o/ can we lynch marv now? lol I completely forgot BM gave him posts. I bet he was planning that out beforehand and thinking, "man, I bet this is going to make someone look like the dumbest." Regardless, the townread still stands: I don't see scum!Damdred making that many posts and being that active early game. | ||
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On May 11 2015 10:19 yamato77 wrote: I think Sandro's reads suck. Usually that means we lynch him. What sucks about his reads? | ||
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I think I see why people say sandroba is much better as town. His reads here are quite in-depth, and he seems at-ease when it comes to explaining his position and can elaborate on his thought process in detail and why he thinks it makes another person suspicious. I had a much more well-thought out post but it, uh, died. Pedit: Damdred stole my glory. D: | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:20 sandroba wrote: If I'm wrong about this TD thing, which certainly I'm considering, I think Oats and yamato both look quite bad. I'm feeling better about damdred already. I can understand the yamato read. Why Oats? | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:29 sandroba wrote: Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv. Explain how the read on you is illogical and nitpicky? Random defense of marv is par for the course for him, iirc. | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Explain how the read on you is illogical and nitpicky? Random defense of marv is par for the course for him, iirc. Renege the bolded, I already checked and saw what you meant. | ||
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On May 11 2015 13:14 Bill Murray wrote: I agree Kelsier. 100%. He is tunnelvisioned too. That town-town shit was shady. I didn't like how rude he was to you, and it was very frustrating not being able to post about it due to giving my posts away to Damdred. Every single post Damdred made, however, made me smile. Whoever it was... OWS or someone... Who said Damdred was crazy... Completely disagree with them Wasn't me lol. Damdred's cool and I already called him town thus far. On May 11 2015 13:18 Bill Murray wrote: Wow I should have nuked fucking Palmar Guy has even less activity than Trfel Very unusual for Palmar Uh? Palmar has bouts of extreme laziness all the time. Not too big a deal for him. | ||
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On May 11 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote: To elaborate a bit on the sandroba thing: Sandroba can only lynch one person today. Judging by that post he is not sure about marv's alignment which is a perfectly okay stance to have at that point in the game. But why is he then announcing that he's keeping an eye on marv? Wouldn't the list of people he's keeping an eye on be a laundry list of people he doesn't have a townread on yet, and even if that wasn't the case, why announce his intentions to marv if marv happens to be mafia. Wouldn't it be better to just actually keep an eye on him without specifically mentioning it. Basically the only people the post actually targets is the people in the thread who now should think "Oh sandroba is trying to find out marv is scum, cool". In the scenario where marv is actually mafia sandroba is essentially warning him that he's going to be checking him out, which just seems like a terrible idea if you're town trying to find mafia. The whole "keeping an eye on him" thing just seems like a way of indicating that he's suspicious of someone else, not coming up with a convoluted way of not giving a read on him. Seems reachy tbh. Not scum-reachy, but I don't think this is a good case. | ||
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On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote: Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around ##vote: marv honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him. Omgus aside, he changed his read on Marv from town to scum with no new information being brought to the table in the interim. First he said he wanted Marv to stop voting him if he wanted to win, indicating that he was town, only to change his mind 3 posts later before Marv even talked to him or acknowledged what he said at all. Either way, I'm down with a BM lynch today. | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:43 Vivax wrote: Ahh fuck it I'll think about it after a game of dota. =/ You are making me quite sad, V. | ||
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Duh? On a side note, I haven't really looked into the Jat case but it looked okay at a glance. I'll try to find time to look into it soonish. | ||
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On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote: On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own. The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not. Beautiful. Back to townpile with you. | ||
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I need you to deliver more than that. | ||
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Also if that nuke is real then we are 100% lynching BM either today or tomorrow. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:27 Trfel wrote: Again, how can the nuke not be real? "Secret role" aside, I see no mention of fake nukes in the role list. And I think that maybe lynching Bill Murray is a necessity, just to make him stop nuking people. Or maybe he is out of nukes now? Last Ver game had a fake nuke, but there was only one. I thought that the use of the nuke was so silly that it had to be fake, but I really don't see the purpose or the "why" of nuking Marv, even as a joke. | ||
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On May 12 2015 10:58 Bill Murray wrote: KelsierSC is town Why? | ||
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You're one of those weird guys that rolls scum more than town so I don't really have a good grasp on your range yet. On May 12 2015 11:01 Bill Murray wrote: I was at the point he voted TalkingDead, who I'm pretty sure is Geript, and mafia. It's either Geript or Raynpelikoneet. If It's Geript he's scum. I don't really care much for this reasoning tbh. | ||
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On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town. Xata is scum. BH also might be scum.. Uh? Bm has been dead serious about the last few games he's played regardless of alignment so wtf? Where is this coming from? As an aside, the more BM posts the less I want to lynch him. I'm just having trouble finding another place for my vote atm. ##unvote | ||
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On May 12 2015 13:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Like lynch. BM didnt nuke to look townie, what are you talking about GB. I would deffo lynch xata Didn't BM claim the nuke he used on Trfel was fake or did I seriously miss something? @GB: I am considering Oats a more viable vote atm. | ||
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Vivax had this moment of self-awareness when I wanted him to do stuff, and he seemed a little annoyed that I expected lots of things from him. | ||
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On May 13 2015 01:52 Onegu wrote: ## Give 5 posts to Rsoultin Just so I can see her rage some more. Some more hearts. She is still scum though. + Show Spoiler + <3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3 Rso is probably not mafia. | ||
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On May 13 2015 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Although Xatalos in here Traitor hunting looks bad too. Whatever. What's wrong with traitor hunting? | ||
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I'm voting Vivax unless a better lynch presents itself. | ||
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On May 13 2015 03:07 justanothertownie wrote: "An awe-inspiring read." Please don't be aperture Obi. I thought about that game before I posted and I went, "yes, I am totally going to post this anyway and make everyone paranoid." | ||
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##donate 5 posts to sandroba I'll give posts to important people who need them so let's see. | ||
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On May 13 2015 06:00 Blazinghand wrote: waho whoa whoa whoa don't lump me in with vivax, i'm useless yess, but i used my power for good instead of evil, surely that earns me not getting lynched until D2 hue Being useless and hiding behind your role is pretty much exactly how I would expect you to play scum. | ||
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I'd probably lynch Bh before Vivax at this rate. Vivax is posting stuff and being useful (finally) while all Bh is doing is hiding behind his role as is his scum meta. I can be swayed to vote Xatalos as well. | ||
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+1 Shit is ridiculous. | ||
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On May 13 2015 09:51 KelsierSC wrote: I'm still in the world where BH is town, his posting EOD and his decision with the nuke, town to me. I still think Xat is mafia so that is going to be where I look in the night, xatalos was a real lynch but it never quite got there and the lynch ended up between vivax and BH, i need to know how that happened. If BH is town and we know vivax is town then you know i'm more looking at people who wanted the lynch not to be xat or who just seemed happy to sit where they were, off the top of my head, I'd look at these people tomorrow Xat JAT TD LS Rs i'm not sure how to evaluate RS actions EOD as apparently she had some personal vendetta to get bh lynched . not too happy if that is the case. then I also think it is important to consider the people who didn't give a shit EOD and seemed to float under the radar bats RoL obi palmars play was really weird aswell just leaving his vote out on sand when that was never really going to be the lynch. I also don't see stutters vote so I'm not sure what is happening with that. I will look through things more closely during the night phase but that is where I am at right now. Why do people think this guy is town? He just name dropped more than a third of the game without any real sense of direction or context and just made almost all of them seem suspicious. It's an incredibly unfocused post and reeks of mafia casting doubt. | ||
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Trfel, talk to me in detail because I've kind of been away from the thread: why is KSC town? | ||
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On May 13 2015 10:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Hm weird my bad, saw bats and obi and combined them. Obi, explain why BH is scum, ignoring anti nuke play. Because he was being useless while hiding behind his role, which pretty much summed up my experience with him in Aperture where he was my scummate. Most of his EoD reads looked fake (in regards to calling rsoultin scum because of "emoticons") and it seemed like he was only playing to save himself while he looked totally apathetic beforehand. I get that town will try to survive a lynch, but it really seemed like BH just didn't care about what was going on beforehand. If you ignore anti-nuke play, what else did he have? | ||
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I don't even understand how you can have 9 people as suspicious in a post dedicated to talking about one person, but I'm really glad I didn't give you posts. | ||
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On May 13 2015 14:59 Oatsmaster wrote: TD hasnt posted much of note recently but Im not gonna push him unless he starts posting more so I can talk to him. Xata and BM are obvious Vigs and nightkills btw guys. I assume you mean BH? Bm is already dead... Btw, renege that last: I forgot that Gb was the guy who pardoned Bm in the first place and is still probably town. I don't know what he means by "mafia meta" but even people who play on my scumteams have trouble metaing me properly, so him saying I'm playing to it is really, really weird. | ||
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Stop giving rso posts so she doesn't keep starting useless shitfights with, like, everyone. @Trfel: right now, I see ls getting bogged down in meaningless defense as is his modus operandi. I almost always scumread him early on and him desperately trying to convey his innocence is somewhat of a slight town lean for him. (Plus, onegu and Xat are tunneling him for not hunting scum, when it's really easy to mess up someone's game by constantly attacking him. Prbs a bit more wait-and-see, but if you put a gun to my head I'd say ls was somewhat towny.) @Gb: how am I playing to my scum meta? I know you love calling me scum for bullshit reasons as scum, so what gives? | ||
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On May 14 2015 07:17 sandroba wrote: Every single time stutters post I cringe. All of his posts including this last are very straight forward and don't look like it comes from a natural stream of thought. He is apparent caught up with the game and I have yet to see any relevant comentary on someone's alignment or some unique perspective on something. I simply cannot believe that is the norm for his town games. I think this man is scum for sure. Yeah, I'm starting to think it might just be better to shoot someone that isn't really doing much. BH is on the hotseat and is actively trying to sort people and question people, whereas there are a bunch of players that don't really care about what's going on or just are laming it out. Like, if BH flips at this point just for information purposes it wouldn't be totally awful but I can't really begrudge him for doing things and making the most of his posts. Btw GB, I'm dying to see how you will try to meta me, but I can already tell you that you're wrong on the fact that I don't have strong reads as scum. Your bit on "let's talk about how suspicious all of these people are but I won't actually do it myself" was still bad regardless of your bit on Oats. | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:20 Oatsmaster wrote: Hey marv, why didn't you die? Also why was damdred a mafia kill. Weird. Not weird at all; Damdred is a strong town. Why would that be weird? | ||
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On May 14 2015 10:21 Oatsmaster wrote: Because he hasnt really been doing anything and he generally survives pretty late. There are better "townie"" kills and better people to kill, aka marv. Anywaym did you have a point in asking this question. Idk. I wanted to comment on it and then thought that was a bit dry on its own, so I tried to turn it into something. Guess it was just a waste of time. Meh. @HTS: Why did your read on me change? Didn't you have me as a scum lean? Did something change or did I miss something or what's up? | ||
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On May 14 2015 13:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Sweet. Anyway, the mafiateam already know so I'll just say it. Marv made a mason group on D1 with me and Palmar in it. Unless you think marv mafia recruiting mason invited a mafia teammate into the group in Palmar, then marv is pretty much lock-clear town. That doesn't make me town or anything, but I can assure you I'm town and I /think/ marv would vouch for me. Marv is like confirmed town, or should be imo. Marv is not confirmed town. I literally JUST lost a game because people went on about suboptimal masoning in regards to masoning two mafia together, when for all we know a mason link doesn't even exist. This is entirely wifom. | ||
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On May 14 2015 15:04 Trfel wrote: I think that marvellosity is almost certainly town if VisceraEyes is town. I'm inclined to go town on both of them, but they are very capable of tricking me. I expect this to resolve itself in the near future. NO. WIFOM. I actually kind of liked Onegu's recent posts on LightningStrike. Though I still feel that he's being extremely inconsistent about when he decides to play seriously and when he decides to joke around (the timing feels more oriented on survival than scumhunting to me). I don't think he is a bad lynch. This doesn't seem like an important tidbit tbh. | ||
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On May 14 2015 15:15 Trfel wrote: Tonally, this sounds really, really bad to me. Onegu, what do you think about: GlowingBear executing Blazinghand The mason circle yamato77 justanothertownie Tone is something people use for day 1 reads. This is useless. | ||
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On May 15 2015 01:26 KelsierSC wrote: I want all these people dead Xat,TD,onegu,oats,obi, RoL Ve you talked about killing RoL in the QT right? he claimed he was role blocked, what do you make of that? I already asked you once as to why. Answer pls. | ||
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One hour ago, I asked Kelsier to explain his scumread on me. He's been here and he's said he had one twice, but he hasn't answered or even acknowledged the fact that I asked him for his reasoning. He doesn't have any. ##vote kelsiersc | ||
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On May 15 2015 05:15 Onegu wrote: Here is why you shouldnt believe LS claim. Me and Rsoul went over this in TS with him like 3 times in the last 2 weeks. Whenever he gets pressure he claims. As town I think he knows me and rsoul told him how bad it is and wouldnt do it... So he is trying to make this look like his town meta. Like if we didnt just talk about this with him then ok. But we did. This doesn't make any sense. | ||
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On May 15 2015 05:52 KelsierSC wrote: HTS here is my thoughts on Obi so far - contributed nothing to the game, filter reads like a lot of one liners. - quick to shoot town town reads or throw suspicion on people. - then i remembered this awful post so that is why I didn't like him, I saw he was in the thread with his "kill jat" but he wasn't really posting or contributing in a meaningful way that I could see, I thought i'd call him mafia to see his response, His response disappointed me, he instantly popped up so he was in the thread and rather than contributing just wants to know why he is mafia, ok that is understandable, but him now voting me and calling me mafia just seems like a huge overreaction. Again he isn't interested in truly scum hunting just hugely overreacting to someone calling him mafia. Think i might be right on this one. >Quick townreads. >Calls people suspicious. >Isn't contributing. You can't just say someone isn't contributing while saying their contributions are bad. The fact that my posts are small or one-liners is completely irrelevant. Why are my quick townreads suspicious? Why is my calling people suspicious suspicious in and of itself? Where am I not contributing in my posts? Your case is basically just a bunch of contradictions and buzzwords. | ||
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On May 15 2015 06:08 Onegu wrote: I just told you why you shouldnt believe his claim... Your reasoning is really dumb tbh. He might be mimicking his town meta so he's mafia? What if he's just town? How do you tell the difference? | ||
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On May 15 2015 14:47 Oatsmaster wrote: Basically for Marv to be scum, ve also has to be scum which means that they made up the whole spiel about masons for nothing. And that's easily confirmable because marv has to mason someone. The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments. They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning themselves. It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such. | ||
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On May 15 2015 15:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments. They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning others. It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such. Ebwop 'cuz I'm bad. Onegu, come up with a better lynch than LS because that lynch isn't happening. | ||
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On May 15 2015 15:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, obi, if we completely disregard the QT things, what are your reads? Lmao I can't answer this shit at 3 AM. I'll get back to you tomorrow. I know onegu could plausibly be town with what I've seen from him in the past but I'm in no shape to do any kind of critical thinking atm. | ||
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On May 15 2015 23:39 marvellosity wrote: I think most of the craziness happened in the first half of the day and people are taking some kind of breather. It's worth mentioning that town is in a fantastic spot, by my reckoning we have probably 3 mafia dead/dying, and maybe even 4. So we're very far ahead. My Down to something like Obi/Oats/Onegu atm. Obi's filter looks ok honestly, he just doesn't have as much going for him as most other ppl. Oats could easily be mafia (I do still like point 1 from the GB case I originally commented on) but at least he's direct and combative. This leaves Onegu who is kinda just existing in the thread in a weird way and making kinda weird reads that don't make that much sense, but not weird enough to look town. Also his comment that if he is mafia he wouldn't be wagoned on d1/d2 feels pretty disingenuous to me - this game has been pretty fast-paced (i.e. there have been a lot of things happening), and literally the only reason he wasn't killed on d2 in XXX was because he claimed VT at the start in a meta-breaking move - his play that game was actually terrible. What exactly does this mean? I thought Onegu's read on LS was pretty weird, but what kind of weird were you expecting? | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:24 Oatsmaster wrote: More like TD is over defensive and doesnt know how to read. Dnu. Maybe. Specifically I remembered the post where you said he wasn't town, and then he broke it down and why he couldn't argue with it and it reminded me of the position I was in several games in a row. | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:33 KelsierSC wrote: I already gave reasons why I scumread the people I put on my list. Writing it again because you are too lazy to read filters seemed a waste. It's like you expect us to accept the fact that you're scumreading all of us for bullshit reasons. Lmfao. | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:36 KelsierSC wrote: I have no interest in anything you have to say, please refrain from talking Wtf is this? @Oats: Okay I guess. Idk, I'll have to look it over again. @GB: Working on it. | ||
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On May 16 2015 03:04 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, if I was scum I probably wouldn't care. Since I am town things are a little different though. I probably killed a mafia and admittedly trolled a little along with it. There is no need to justify my play since I was nuked instantly anyways and you will see that I was being truthful when I flip but there is reason to care about how we proceed with this game. Marv is mafia and you should vote him, kill him, murder him and burn him. Tbh I'd be willing to consider it if you flip town, but there's no real reason to think anything of it until later because, if he is mafia, then it's going to be more obvious with time. | ||
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On May 16 2015 03:10 justanothertownie wrote: Why do you even assume that I am mafia? You are the one who "studied my mafia play". Are you telling me I am doing what I have done as mafia? I'm not really assuming anything. I'm just being lazy and I know that your situation will resolve itself with time. | ||
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Oats: idk TD: idk - I want Oats/TD to continue talking to each other because I'm not entirely sure what to make of that as of yet. I'll probably poke/prod them whenever and see what's up and try to figure it out. If you put a gun to my head I'd say it was TvT, just based off of the fact that I understand what they're both saying. Marv: town probably yamato: town - Town until he stops playing. Kelsier: scumlean - I feel like he's being rather unreasonable and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to say when he flat out tells me he doesn't care about me trying to talk to him. His scumreads are somewhat opportunistic and I feel like the reasoning behind them is rather shaky at best. VE: townlean - Don't really see a reason to suspect him tbh. Trfel: town - Seems like this is his bog standard play, don't really see a reason to distrust him. Rol: idk - I know people are calling him town because he voted Palmar, but that's really not enough on its own. Onegu: scum - Ignored LS' claim (and even then his push was lame) and has no real scumreads outside of that except for maybe yamato because of "one liners" which doesn't mean anything. I think everyone off this list is practically resolved/claimed already which is nice. | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:00 GlowingBear wrote: OH! Oh. Oh... I thought traitors were mafia that had to kill a mafia in order to win the game. Heh. Heheheh. God this is embarassing. lol | ||
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Marv hates being scum and it becomes more and more obvious as time goes on. It's hard to lynch marv just because of that simple fact. | ||
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On May 16 2015 14:19 Oatsmaster wrote: Practically everyone's activity in the game has died off, marv /ve/yamato /rol /stutters / kel / ls/trfel. Not all these people can be scum so the activity dying off isn't a scumtell Yeah I don't think stutters/rol have ever been super active either. | ||
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On May 16 2015 15:04 Stutters695 wrote: I'm trying to figure it out. If I have stuff to say I will, but I don't need to prove I'm town and most of my reads are bad so I don't want to shit up the thread. Earlier was bad enough lol. Also, LMFAO GB, that's hilarious. It makes a lot more sense. Not trying to call anyone out, just trying to narrow down the list of people whose activity dropped off and I didn't think you fell into that category. | ||
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