Assassination Mafia!

On May 07 2015 14:41 GlowingBear wrote:


Nevermind, I can overcome my grudge with inactives

I just would love if oats could promise he will actually play this game

/in again

On May 10 2015 11:38 batsnacks wrote:
Oats is probably a 3rd party day mason with a 1 shot cop check based on his first post.

On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote:
marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him.

On May 11 2015 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's always funny when people say me actually coming in to play a game is weird or "out of place". I signed up for the game, what's weird about me coming to play it? Reeks of trying to discredit everything I say before I say it to me. LOL

On May 11 2015 12:29 sandroba wrote:

Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv.

On May 11 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote:


you think hapa's just trolling us? -_- or what is the purpose of this post?

On May 11 2015 23:40 batsnacks wrote:
I wish I had some nukes. My abilities are pleb tier.

On May 12 2015 12:47 GlowingBear wrote:


Your reason to vote BM is bad and you think BH might be scum, so you're assuming Mafia wasted 2 nukes and 2 anti nukes over nothing. Like lol

On May 12 2015 13:08 GlowingBear wrote:


It depends on this guy's thought process
Why?

On May 12 2015 13:10 GlowingBear wrote:


This is what I'm talking, oats:
You posted that you're voting BM but says that BH might be Mafia as well.

Which means you assume Mafia INTENTIONALLY nuked someone just for BH to anti nuke. Then Mafia AGAIN wasted a nuke so his Mafia partner AGAIN ANTI NUKES.

Then you say they are trying to get town cred.
Now you say BM wasn't trying to get town cred.

I'm confused.

On May 12 2015 02:50 Xatalos wrote:
About BM: Never played with him before. His nuke spectacle was basically an anti-town way of using the ability, so it might be necessary to policy lynch him or just Vig him. Typically crazy plays come a bit more often from town than scum so that holds me back from just saying anti-town -> scum.

On May 12 2015 03:01 Xatalos wrote:


If Trfel and BH are both scum, it's obviously a must-do to just prevent it. Them both being scum makes sense. If BH is scum and Trfel town, then it doesn't make much sense to prevent it (better save it for a teammate). It only makes sense if he has lots of uses for it and he doesn't need to worry about wasting it. If BH is town, it *somewhat* makes sense to immediately use it (considering the random way BM went about using the nuke) but it's still quite weird to just use it so easily.

All in all I think the most sensible explanations are BH+Trfel being scum or BH being scum and Trfel being town, but BH having enough uses of the ability to afford using it on a townie.

On May 12 2015 13:53 GlowingBear wrote:


Nononono not fine.

1) Why truffle is town? (You compared BM's nuke to a certain ##shoot townie)
2) Why were you scumreading BH?
3) Why Xatalos was a better lynch than BH?
4) Did you not realise the nuke and anti nukes wasting thing before?

On May 12 2015 20:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, you asked me questions, never followed up. You said my read on BH is good, but it didn't change your vote, nor created interest in you to pursue more information on him.

Can you give more inputs about this?
Let's lynch BH?
Would you lynch Oats?
What did you make of my answer?

On May 12 2015 21:00 Half the Sky wrote:
24/60



How is Xatalos' play any different from the way he played in Carol? You cased him for murky reads amongst other things. He's doing the same thing here. I think I drew a few parallels, Damdred I think did the same somewhere in this thread.

On May 12 2015 22:36 Palmar wrote:

Yeah but if this happened to me I'd be so fucking furious. I get mad when people don't listen to my scumreads, someone actively shutting me down would basically have me flipping out.

Like marv, sandroba, do you really not care if your primary scumread just got saved by some random guy?

The reaction to this is super weird by the thread in general.

On May 13 2015 08:41 KelsierSC wrote:
I think BH has proved he is town with his posting here. Comparing it to xatalos or vivax especially.

with xatalos, still my top scum read but i haven't convinced people

reading vivax again, i sort of agree with hts post, he hasn't really done anything that makes me want to keep him alive I liked one early post of his but he has been pretty lazy. I also really like trefls post.

if marv , HTS and GB like a vivax lynch..i'm ok with that and I want to keep BH alive over vivax for sure. leaving my vote on xatalos accomplishes nothing at this point.

##unvote
##vote: vivax

On May 13 2015 11:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Because he was being useless while hiding behind his role, which pretty much summed up my experience with him in Aperture where he was my scummate. Most of his EoD reads looked fake (in regards to calling rsoultin scum because of "emoticons") and it seemed like he was only playing to save himself while he looked totally apathetic beforehand.

I get that town will try to survive a lynch, but it really seemed like BH just didn't care about what was going on beforehand.

If you ignore anti-nuke play, what else did he have?

On May 13 2015 11:05 yamato77 wrote:

you're mafia

and so is BH

i liked the post trefl and HTS made on vivax and other people on my town list had also voted him.
I didn't want to waste my vote.

On May 13 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Thank you, Onegu.

Marv, oats, BH and LS are most likely Mafia. In this order. I'll make a post with four cases in it. And this time I will really do it.

Yamato, am I town? Answer me win reasoning, please.

On May 13 2015 11:20 yamato77 wrote:

oh, oats...

On May 13 2015 12:04 Trfel wrote:
It's a meta read. Scum meta comparisons being Game of Thrones Mini Mafia and Carol of the Bells, town meta comparison being Mini Mafia Down Under (1, not 2).

As town, KelsierSC opens the game by poking and prodding at people. He's generally moderately active is aggressive with his reads.

In contrast, KelsierSC isn't very active as scum. In both of the scum games I looked at, he started the game late (I don't know if this is a trend or coincidence). However, he generally townread most people early on, but made sure to have one scumread.

His activity and number of scumreads make him mafia here. It's just so distinct from his normal scum play, and in a way that matches his town play very closely. I still feel that he is making a large number of scumreads and doesn't seem to care between them (scummy because he is giving himself a wide pool to lynch from), and his read progression doesn't always make sense to me, but it isn't bad enough that it outweighs his meta clearly indicating that he is town.

On May 13 2015 16:20 Trfel wrote:
Why do you say that Bill Murray is not crazy?

And I think that it is good to lynch the traitor. Xatalos's push on Onegu isn't the only thing he's done this game.

On May 13 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote:

Just to be clear - are you saying the case on you is good?

On May 14 2015 09:43 TalkingDead wrote:
And haven't looked at Xata since late D1. Fine with lynching him but there are better lynches.

Also. The execute should be used to get rid of afk's and unreadables.

On May 14 2015 10:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Not weird at all; Damdred is a strong town.

Why would that be weird?

On May 14 2015 10:27 TalkingDead wrote:

Not even close.

A few important things. Rsoultin's large posts are really, really off. When I have more time to write up a whole thing I'll do so, but there's very little sense being made in them and she's flat out lying about a few things.

On May 14 2015 11:19 TalkingDead wrote:

It's shorter than mine and at least a third is ether pre-game or useless. Should I have bothered?

On May 14 2015 13:07 TalkingDead wrote:
I'm a little less sure on Marv for a few reasons, but I still think he's town. Mostly tone, thought process, similar reads type of thing. BH I'm thinking might be town. Mostly because of the sheeping Palmer thing. However I think the best reasons not to shoot either of them is that both give significantly more information if you lynch them (or try to lynch them). Right now I'm looking into other people.

On May 14 2015 13:30 TalkingDead wrote:
I'm currently look at LS or was before the claim; I'm going to take another peek at VE, HTS, BH and Marv in a bit. And as far as I know, he was interested in the roughly the same group that I was at EoD. I was looking at BM (pre-pardon), You (oats), Vivax and Onegu.

On May 14 2015 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:

Why not shoot him and use that information to decide the lynch? We've already tried to lynch him and we lynched a townie. Just sayin.

On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote:

Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well.

Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game.

Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though

On May 15 2015 11:28 TalkingDead wrote:

Please claim mafia harder.

On May 15 2015 11:38 TalkingDead wrote:

You literally said:
1. I don't care what you did in your mason chat.
2. You're not going to lynch me today
3. I'm not town
What is there to interact with there? You're flat out ignoring some reasons to in the least consider me town; that's not even considering the QT's in conjunction with my filter. You're flat out saying that I'm a non-town entity. You're flat out saying you don't want to lynch me today. Under what circumstances could any of that make possible make a lick of sense?

There's literally nothing else to say about that.

On May 15 2015 11:57 Stutters695 wrote:

Wat? Anyway, I'm considering myself confirmed town since it's fucking obvious so if anyone needs posts, hit me up.

On May 15 2015 15:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments.
They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning themselves.

It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such.

On May 15 2015 16:27 Onegu wrote:
Could lynch yamato for having only one post that is like more than three lines... But that is kinda from the gut.

On May 16 2015 01:39 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm so confused right now.

with regards to the whole mason thing I don't really understand what's happening can someone be so kind as to give who is in what mason chat and the order they were recruited because I am totally lost.

If I ignore all that shit though I would lynch obi,onegu, RoL and oats. . Completely outside of the mason claims just how they have played seems scummy to me.

I think it is odd that you would have two town aligned mason groups though. then again we seem to have like 18 kp or something so w/e.

from TD i'd like to know the order he recruited and the reasons for doing so , if that has been provided I didn't see it in the filter.

On May 16 2015 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Btw, I forgot to mention it last night but I thought that TD looked better in the back-and-forth than Oats. It did kind of seem like Oats was being unreasonable.

On May 16 2015 02:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Dnu. Maybe. Specifically I remembered the post where you said he wasn't town, and then he broke it down and why he couldn't argue with it and it reminded me of the position I was in several games in a row.

On May 16 2015 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:

Does that mean if I vote who you vote you will switch? Damn, I am powerful.

I am still waiting for anyone to explain how what I did was a good/reasonable move if I was scum btw.

On May 16 2015 02:45 TalkingDead wrote:

After how many tries Oats?

On May 16 2015 12:28 GlowingBear wrote:


There's a case written on you with 3 items, oats. None of them were debunked.

@obi: because I'm sure he is mafia. If he plays like this as town, he doesn't deserve the OMG IT'S FUCKING GOD MARV aura he has.

On May 16 2015 12:51 GlowingBear wrote:


You answering them doesn't debunk them.

Explaining yourself =/= telling me why my case is wrong.