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On May 07 2015 14:41 GlowingBear wrote: i promise i will.Nevermind, I can overcome my grudge with inactives I just would love if oats could promise he will actually play this game /in again | ||
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And i do not see how in the world conclusions are being made from 1 page.... | ||
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On May 10 2015 11:38 batsnacks wrote: Oats is probably a 3rd party day mason with a 1 shot cop check based on his first post. ^^ | ||
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I cannot read your posts. | ||
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Like this post right, On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote: marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him. marv doesnt do that. And a scumread for not posting is pretty bad considering the general lack of content. And i really fucking hate lists posts man, seriously dont post a huge list of nonsense. Talkingdead especially. Is that rayn? | ||
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On May 11 2015 04:34 VisceraEyes wrote: It's always funny when people say me actually coming in to play a game is weird or "out of place". I signed up for the game, what's weird about me coming to play it? Reeks of trying to discredit everything I say before I say it to me. LOL Can you tell me of a game in the last 6 months where you posted analysis in the first 6 hours. | ||
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Sandro, talking deads list post was the most recent and longest one, why not point it out? Also, the tone of your posts is very structured, and the questions you ask seem to be more for show than actually gaining alignment relevant information | ||
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BM is totes scum though. | ||
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Give me one reason why marv is scum. Sandro just made a completely unnecessary post calling gb town when nobody is even talking about gb. Why did you make that post Sandro? Also your points involving td are that he has a weird read on gb and damdred? Why is that read scummy? | ||
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I'm actually inclined to agree with sandro about td. He just dodged all the questions by saying "reread" ... | ||
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That's a bad post. Mainly because of one point. When td compares the difference between town-town, he says that they will be able to rethink their reads. But in his town-scum analysis, he said that one of them will keep beating a dead horse, specifying that it might be either. So since they don't know each others alignments, the town - scum scenario he proposes could happen with town - town too. So in conclusion, td is bullshitting his town-town read cause he got caught. | ||
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On May 11 2015 12:29 sandroba wrote: Random read on me which is illogical and nitpicky. Random defense of marv. You are town. Marv is not scum yet. | ||
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On May 11 2015 14:21 rsoultin wrote: you think hapa's just trolling us? -_- or what is the purpose of this post? Nukes can be duds, which means they don't kill anyone even though there are mod posts and all that. | ||
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Why is my defence of you suprising marv? | ||
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On May 11 2015 23:40 batsnacks wrote: I wish I had some nukes. My abilities are pleb tier. not shit tier? What are you even doing this game bats. | ||
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Xata is scum. BH also might be scum.. | ||
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You can't disagree with any of my opinions. | ||
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Xata is like straight up scum more than bm but I can't push lynch on him right now. | ||
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On May 12 2015 12:47 GlowingBear wrote: Your reason to vote BM is bad and you think BH might be scum, so you're assuming Mafia wasted 2 nukes and 2 anti nukes over nothing. Like lol One nuke was fake and why not get cred? Also bm basically killed someone at the start of the day. Does that sound townie to you? Nope. And all his reasoning is real sketchy but he's trying hard so he clearly cares. A townie that shoots someone at the start of the day does not care. | ||
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Enough towncred? | ||
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BM didnt nuke to look townie, what are you talking about GB. I would deffo lynch xata | ||
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On May 12 2015 13:08 GlowingBear wrote: It depends on this guy's thought process Why? ????? like with his first post, ##SHOOT TOWNIE | ||
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On May 12 2015 13:10 GlowingBear wrote: This is what I'm talking, oats: You posted that you're voting BM but says that BH might be Mafia as well. Which means you assume Mafia INTENTIONALLY nuked someone just for BH to anti nuke. Then Mafia AGAIN wasted a nuke so his Mafia partner AGAIN ANTI NUKES. Then you say they are trying to get town cred. Now you say BM wasn't trying to get town cred. I'm confused. Wasnt the second nuke fake or something? I didnt see a host message. | ||
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This shit is so bad though On May 12 2015 02:50 Xatalos wrote: About BM: Never played with him before. His nuke spectacle was basically an anti-town way of using the ability, so it might be necessary to policy lynch him or just Vig him. Typically crazy plays come a bit more often from town than scum so that holds me back from just saying anti-town -> scum. What a waffley defence that is super weird. I read this and instantly thought of scum asking xata to defend BM and this is what he came up with. | ||
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On May 12 2015 03:01 Xatalos wrote: If Trfel and BH are both scum, it's obviously a must-do to just prevent it. Them both being scum makes sense. If BH is scum and Trfel town, then it doesn't make much sense to prevent it (better save it for a teammate). It only makes sense if he has lots of uses for it and he doesn't need to worry about wasting it. If BH is town, it *somewhat* makes sense to immediately use it (considering the random way BM went about using the nuke) but it's still quite weird to just use it so easily. All in all I think the most sensible explanations are BH+Trfel being scum or BH being scum and Trfel being town, but BH having enough uses of the ability to afford using it on a townie. Also this bit of analysis is bad. BH wont save scum if hes scum because then he is under huge suspicion to justify the townread. Especially so early. And then he gets cred if he claims he had antinuke and didnt use it to save a scum. So BH and Trfel are not scum scum. | ||
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On May 12 2015 13:53 GlowingBear wrote: Nononono not fine. 1) Why truffle is town? (You compared BM's nuke to a certain ##shoot townie) 2) Why were you scumreading BH? 3) Why Xatalos was a better lynch than BH? 4) Did you not realise the nuke and anti nukes wasting thing before? 1) hypothetical 2)Because he suspicously anti nuked the first nuke 3)Xata is a way fucking better lynch than BH, hes posting garbage and not trying to find out shit at all. 4)I thought only the first nuke was "real" | ||
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This makes BM scum. | ||
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Go down point 1 to 5 and explain why its scummy. | ||
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On May 12 2015 20:41 GlowingBear wrote: Damdy, you asked me questions, never followed up. You said my read on BH is good, but it didn't change your vote, nor created interest in you to pursue more information on him. Can you give more inputs about this? Let's lynch BH? Would you lynch Oats? What did you make of my answer? dude you arent fucking lynching me again day 1 for no reason. Ok lets lynch Xata then. 100% scum. Im not even kidding | ||
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On May 12 2015 21:00 Half the Sky wrote: 24/60 How is Xatalos' play any different from the way he played in Carol? You cased him for murky reads amongst other things. He's doing the same thing here. I think I drew a few parallels, Damdred I think did the same somewhere in this thread. Glowing bear you are ridiculous. I dont see any questions, im pretty sure I answered all outstanding questions, if not, please post again. | ||
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On May 12 2015 22:36 Palmar wrote: Yeah but if this happened to me I'd be so fucking furious. I get mad when people don't listen to my scumreads, someone actively shutting me down would basically have me flipping out. Like marv, sandroba, do you really not care if your primary scumread just got saved by some random guy? The reaction to this is super weird by the thread in general. My reaction is "nothing I can do about it right now, GB is town so not bothering to go off on him for no reason". | ||
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100% SCUM. Vivax might be but Xata is more scum. | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:41 KelsierSC wrote: I think BH has proved he is town with his posting here. Comparing it to xatalos or vivax especially. with xatalos, still my top scum read but i haven't convinced people reading vivax again, i sort of agree with hts post, he hasn't really done anything that makes me want to keep him alive I liked one early post of his but he has been pretty lazy. I also really like trefls post. if marv , HTS and GB like a vivax lynch..i'm ok with that and I want to keep BH alive over vivax for sure. leaving my vote on xatalos accomplishes nothing at this point. ##unvote ##vote: vivax ergh ugly post that is completely unneeded justification for the switch. | ||
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Trfel posted some interesting things trying to distance himself from the lunch though | ||
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Yamato looks scummy as fuck for not saying anything other than lynch bh multiple times. | ||
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Obi, explain why BH is scum, ignoring anti nuke play. | ||
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On May 13 2015 11:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Because he was being useless while hiding behind his role, which pretty much summed up my experience with him in Aperture where he was my scummate. Most of his EoD reads looked fake (in regards to calling rsoultin scum because of "emoticons") and it seemed like he was only playing to save himself while he looked totally apathetic beforehand. I get that town will try to survive a lynch, but it really seemed like BH just didn't care about what was going on beforehand. If you ignore anti-nuke play, what else did he have? Nothing. Actually thats true, BH is able to just shit content as both alignments. I guess we see if the content is valid or not | ||
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Go on, give actual reasons for at least one of your reads. From what I read, your BH read was that "hes not doing anything". | ||
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i liked the post trefl and HTS made on vivax and other people on my town list had also voted him. I didn't want to waste my vote. I really dont like that Kiel feels the need to qualify his switch by saying other people did it. Coupled with his post when he switched. Not good. | ||
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On May 13 2015 11:29 GlowingBear wrote: Thank you, Onegu. Marv, oats, BH and LS are most likely Mafia. In this order. I'll make a post with four cases in it. And this time I will really do it. Yamato, am I town? Answer me win reasoning, please. What is this garbage man. First you use your pardon super unreasonably then you come up with a completely bullshit scumlist that makes no sense at all. | ||
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Oh yamato... | ||
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2) My reads changed throughout d1, I always thought BM was scum and voting with thread sentiment is hardly scummy by itself. I dont see the point in voting Xata when Im perfectly happy with BM dying. When you pardon BM, I dont think BH is scum anymore so that point is wrong. And I made a perfectly good case on Xata that is still valid man. Thats pushing. And he did get a decent amount of votes. I switched later to Vivax because it was clear that Xata wasnt getting lynched and BH was more strongly town than Vivax. 3)I dont see the contradiction between having BM and BH on the same scumteam if only the first nuke was shot. My hypothetical situation was hypothetical and it didnt go anywhere, boo. My reasoning behind BM was that a townie that cares wouldnt have shot 2 nukes day 1. | ||
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Xata and BM are obvious Vigs and nightkills btw guys. | ||
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Ok then, kill Xata. Trfel's town meta read on Kiel almost seems too good. | ||
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On May 13 2015 12:04 Trfel wrote: It's a meta read. Scum meta comparisons being Game of Thrones Mini Mafia and Carol of the Bells, town meta comparison being Mini Mafia Down Under (1, not 2). As town, KelsierSC opens the game by poking and prodding at people. He's generally moderately active is aggressive with his reads. In contrast, KelsierSC isn't very active as scum. In both of the scum games I looked at, he started the game late (I don't know if this is a trend or coincidence). However, he generally townread most people early on, but made sure to have one scumread. His activity and number of scumreads make him mafia here. It's just so distinct from his normal scum play, and in a way that matches his town play very closely. I still feel that he is making a large number of scumreads and doesn't seem to care between them (scummy because he is giving himself a wide pool to lynch from), and his read progression doesn't always make sense to me, but it isn't bad enough that it outweighs his meta clearly indicating that he is town. bolded is town not mafia right? Your post here is pretty good but it feels a lot like you know hes town and then are giving a bunch of reasons why rather than the other way around. I think that this read wont be so certain if you are town basically. A townBM as he has played over the last day would not have shot those nukes. Shooting nukes is crazy town. BM is clearly not crazy. Therefore he is scum. | ||
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Everything other than his nukes makes it seem like he is trying to play the game and isnt INSANE. anyway, hes dead. NEW TOPIC?? Like why you dont want to kill Xatalos | ||
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What about his reaction to BM and the whole "DOES HE CARE ABOUT LYNCHING SCUM" thing? He doesnt care about lynching scum and he has weird fucking reactions to shit. | ||
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And I think that it is good to lynch the traitor. Xatalos's push on Onegu isn't the only thing he's done this game. It was like 3 posts without even an attempt to engage anyone other than Onegu. Hardly a 'push'. Also scumslip? | ||
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On May 13 2015 23:30 marvellosity wrote: Just to be clear - are you saying the case on you is good? no. | ||
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Not kidding. Every single time. | ||
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Good shot stutters. And that was totally a scum slip by palmar. Where did td go? So palmar calls ls town, that makes it more likely that ls is town because that read was completely unreasonable. | ||
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Also why was damdred a mafia kill. Weird. | ||
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Especially since Palmer is scum. Td you wanna kill xata? | ||
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Otherwise he shoots me. | ||
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On May 14 2015 09:43 TalkingDead wrote: And haven't looked at Xata since late D1. Fine with lynching him but there are better lynches. Also. The execute should be used to get rid of afk's and unreadables. Why the fuck didn't you mention any of the 'better' lynches | ||
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On May 14 2015 10:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Not weird at all; Damdred is a strong town. Why would that be weird? Because he hasnt really been doing anything and he generally survives pretty late. There are better "townie"" kills and better people to kill, aka marv. Anywaym did you have a point in asking this question. | ||
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I just looked in your filter. 90% are nothing, 10% are bullshit. And what is this A few important things. Rsoultin's large posts are really, really off. When I have more time to write up a whole thing I'll do so, but there's very little sense being made in them and she's flat out lying about a few things. You posted this and never ever mentioned rsoul again even though lying pretty much means someone is scum. Why is xata town? Or why is blazinghand scummier than Xata? | ||
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TD still posting nothing of use. | ||
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On May 14 2015 11:19 TalkingDead wrote: It's shorter than mine and at least a third is ether pre-game or useless. Should I have bothered? SHOOT THIS DUDE. RIGHT HERE. PLEASE. | ||
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Do we get a lynch today or is GB just gonna kill someone | ||
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On May 14 2015 13:07 TalkingDead wrote: I'm a little less sure on Marv for a few reasons, but I still think he's town. Mostly tone, thought process, similar reads type of thing. BH I'm thinking might be town. Mostly because of the sheeping Palmer thing. However I think the best reasons not to shoot either of them is that both give significantly more information if you lynch them (or try to lynch them). Right now I'm looking into other people. WHO???????? Also how does marv's tone make him town and what similar reads does he have to you? Actually shoot this dude and lynch Xata. | ||
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On May 14 2015 13:30 TalkingDead wrote: I'm currently look at LS or was before the claim; I'm going to take another peek at VE, HTS, BH and Marv in a bit. And as far as I know, he was interested in the roughly the same group that I was at EoD. I was looking at BM (pre-pardon), You (oats), Vivax and Onegu. The tone read? Why did marv's tone make him town? Can you give me a quick breakdown of your top 3 scumreads and why? and if those dont include me, include me. | ||
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On May 14 2015 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote: Why not shoot him and use that information to decide the lynch? We've already tried to lynch him and we lynched a townie. Just sayin. what information will we gain from a BH flip that implicates someone else? | ||
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So what information did we gain from that flip VE? nothing. | ||
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It bothers me that everyone's scum reads are the same,, onegu/xata/me. I actually think trfel and rol are the correct lynches today. | ||
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How does your role work exactly td? Is it just choose 3 people at the start of the day to create a 1:1 qt? | ||
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So rol is probably town ve. Trfel! | ||
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Kiel. Kiel is scum. | ||
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On May 15 2015 10:23 TalkingDead wrote: Right so the argument that you're making is because of the mechanics of my role I'm scum. By that same token, the mechanics of all of the KP roles make them scum as well. Why don't you just admit that you're doing the exact same thing you've done all game? You know, find an excuse to push somebody regardless of actually thinking about their play whatsoever. Really, you're just calling people scum based on really fucktarded reasons just so that you can look like you have, you know, actual reads. You know, just ignore how I've used the role, who I've recruited, why I've recruited them, anything that I've discussed with them, anything that they've had to say about me. Basically like anything actually important to the game. Last I remember Oats, you didn't believe in the too dumb to be scum heuristic. I guess it's because you've proved that you can be both both a idiot and mafia at the same time. We'll just go ahead and lynch you now. Thanks for showing your true colors though I dont care what you did in your mason chat. And im not gonna lynch you today. You just arent town. | ||
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You keep doing this shit where you incite people and never actually engage in meaningful conversation. | ||
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On May 15 2015 11:38 TalkingDead wrote: You literally said: 1. I don't care what you did in your mason chat. 2. You're not going to lynch me today 3. I'm not town What is there to interact with there? You're flat out ignoring some reasons to in the least consider me town; that's not even considering the QT's in conjunction with my filter. You're flat out saying that I'm a non-town entity. You're flat out saying you don't want to lynch me today. Under what circumstances could any of that make possible make a lick of sense? There's literally nothing else to say about that. No, im saying that you arent town, not that you arent town. | ||
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On May 15 2015 11:57 Stutters695 wrote: Wat? Anyway, I'm considering myself confirmed town since it's fucking obvious so if anyone needs posts, hit me up. He is not town. Not he is not town. | ||
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On May 15 2015 15:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote: The mason speil is completely useless in regards to their alignments. They could just mason themselves and then mason someone else, or just not mason at all and then say they did before masoning themselves. It's a completely irrelevant factoid in regards to associative reads and should be addressed as such. Ok so lets try out some things. 1. Marv is mafia mason and decides to mason his mafia teammates just to fake this exact situation of one of them dying early who isnt marv. 2. Marv is mafia not mason and VE just made up that shit to get marv townread. 3. Marv is town mason and from marv's point of view, ve is telling the truth. So the most likely scenario is 3. For 1, they have to fake all the messages because eventually marv has to get a townie inside. Not likely. For 2, when marv doesnt mason anyone over n2 and n3, marv dies. So it actually really fucking relevant to their alignments. | ||
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On May 15 2015 16:27 Onegu wrote: Could lynch yamato for having only one post that is like more than three lines... But that is kinda from the gut. Hes town. Another lynch? | ||
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THANKS. | ||
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Why isnt Kiel or LS scum? | ||
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On May 16 2015 01:39 KelsierSC wrote: LOOK AT THIS BULLSHIT READ.I'm so confused right now. with regards to the whole mason thing I don't really understand what's happening can someone be so kind as to give who is in what mason chat and the order they were recruited because I am totally lost. If I ignore all that shit though I would lynch obi,onegu, RoL and oats. . Completely outside of the mason claims just how they have played seems scummy to me. I think it is odd that you would have two town aligned mason groups though. then again we seem to have like 18 kp or something so w/e. from TD i'd like to know the order he recruited and the reasons for doing so , if that has been provided I didn't see it in the filter. ##VOTE KELSIER | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw, I forgot to mention it last night but I thought that TD looked better in the back-and-forth than Oats. It did kind of seem like Oats was being unreasonable. More like TD is over defensive and doesnt know how to read. | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Dnu. Maybe. Specifically I remembered the post where you said he wasn't town, and then he broke it down and why he couldn't argue with it and it reminded me of the position I was in several games in a row. well no, I said he wasnt confirmed town. He chose to take it like I was saying he was 3p or scum. | ||
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On May 16 2015 02:44 justanothertownie wrote: Does that mean if I vote who you vote you will switch? Damn, I am powerful. I am still waiting for anyone to explain how what I did was a good/reasonable move if I was scum btw. No, then you are voting with me, not the other way around. Dude you are dying anywhere, why do you care. | ||
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Why would I say you are not town rather than you are 3p or scum? Which one carries the point across better? I really dont think this is any deal at all. | ||
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Stutters shoot kel. Ez. Marv and td make me a Mason. | ||
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How the fuck is it wifom. Traitor won't have kp and why would he play against his wincon????? | ||
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Also wasting a mason assuming that one of them will die early is bad. 2 town means 2 people you can convince of your townieness. We should kill ve probably. That's the connection. | ||
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Well not strong if you don't use it properly. Can we lynch kel first though. Then I am open to lynching marv. | ||
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Also ls, it's basically impossible that both of them are scum. | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:28 GlowingBear wrote: There's a case written on you with 3 items, oats. None of them were debunked. @obi: because I'm sure he is mafia. If he plays like this as town, he doesn't deserve the OMG IT'S FUCKING GOD MARV aura he has. I fucking answered them man. And it's not a good case. And it was written n1. Rol, ve confirmed that there was a qt with marv and palmar | ||
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On May 16 2015 12:51 GlowingBear wrote: You answering them doesn't debunk them. Explaining yourself =/= telling me why my case is wrong. ???????????? 1) unjustified town read. Clearly justified, bh same reasoning as me. 2) weird switches. Bm was scummy as fuck and that didn't need explaining xata wasn't gonna get lynched so vivax is scummier than bh. Ez. 3) don't remember shitty point. | ||
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So no counterclaim shit like a normal mini. | ||
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Not all these people can be scum so the activity dying off isn't a scumtell | ||
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Boo. | ||
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And one is dead already. hm. | ||
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I think if BM didnt nuke for no reason and palmar didnt get absolutely hero shotted n1, scum wouldve been in a way better position. | ||
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