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21/60
Okay, so I'm not out quite yet...
On May 15 2015 05:15 Onegu wrote:
Here is why you shouldnt believe LS claim. Me and Rsoul went over this in TS with him like 3 times in the last 2 weeks.
Whenever he gets pressure he claims. As town I think he knows me and rsoul told him how bad it is and wouldnt do it... So he is trying to make this look like his town meta. Like if we didnt just talk about this with him then ok. But we did.
Ehhhh Onegu, another critique of LS's play that I have is that LS will throw random links for metas without clarifying the exact parallels between the game in question and his current game. I've been on him about this as both alignments since damned Horn of Africa. Does this make him mafia? Not necessarily.
From a purely objective standpoint, LS's claim is scum like because it's not even halfway through the day, but he does this as both alignments even if you tell him a bazillion times not to do it.
I'm actually more inclined to believe LS's explanation for voting you actually because
1 I've never seen him claim a blue role as scum (granted he could be doing it for the first time, but for what I've played with him, he's NOT a high-risk player) nor would he claim that role with this setup and a relatively high risk of counterclaim.
2 He explained his role with his actions - saving GB and that is in line with him townreading GB going into D2 after checking his filter.
Another case of selective meta reasoning....strike two on you.
Looking more into TD's case on BH, now that we know that BH is blue, I'm beginning to wonder if that is a really contorted case on him by TD. Combine that with the questions that both KSC and I had on him, and he's probably a decent chance at scum. Not concluding anything yet but I really am starting to wonder....
PHEW....now I'm done for now.
I'm throwing my vote on Onegu because at this point I think it's a good lynch.
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22/60
On May 15 2015 06:08 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2015 06:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
In more relevant events, I'd say that Onegu ignoring LS's claim and trying to lynch him anyway is a spectacular reason to lynch him. I just told you why you shouldnt believe his claim...
....and I've just told you why your reasoning in of itself does not particularly make him mafia. I just gave an example of my own where he plays suboptimally as both alignments and him not taking your advice, my advice on things does not make him mafia.
So you either need to build a stronger case, or find another candidate for scum. Focusing on 1-2 scum at a time isn't going to save you as you're the leading wagon nor am I buying that argument for you not continually scumhunting.
The chances of you two double bussing as both mafia I'd say are low so if I had to pick a mafia from both of you, I'd say you over him. Given both of your respective gameplaying though I'd highly doubt it's town on town.
Also fairly confident Xatalos was scum, so him pushing LS as an easy lynch was plausible (yeah unflipped association, yeah I know...).
KSC, now that we know BH was flipped, go to the case that TD made on BH. Does anything strike you as potentially off? I am assuming you are more experienced playing with BH than I am.
As for Obi...he always posts one-liners and he doesn't bleed town as either alignment to be fair. His WIFOM post can come as either alignment. Don't agree with his post on you, you just gave a purposes where to start looking post-lynch.
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On May 15 2015 06:17 TalkingDead wrote:
I think I missed some of this a bit earlier. I think I'd rather give Batsnacks a pass than RoL. Both Batsnacks and Palmer voting together on Sandroba as mafia is really, really unlikely. RoL has basically done nothing this game yet is magically right on Palmer; that feels far more bussy to me than not. Onegu and LS aren't bad targets based on them both being smart enough to not throw away their votes. That said, Stutters/Kelsier/Oats/OWS/Trfel/Xatalos are the next people I'd look at.
My reserve on Xatalos (having re-filtered him yet) is that the way things look, no mafia were up for the D1 lynch and rather mafia could just freely organize wherever semi-naturally without having to fear about losing one of their own.
Stutters is an uncounterclaimed vig who claimed the shot on scum Palmar. Do you have adequate reason to think he shot his own scumbuddy?
Xatalos was already day-vigged by VE.
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Skimmed through. A few things. I'm bogged with wedding related commitments (being in the party) today and tomorrow so I apologise I haven't been able to really contribute here. My thoughts in brief (phone posting ATM)
Regarding the mason exchange and everything, GB, I think you might be mistaken - rsoultin was beginning to back off Marv, don't think she was killed.
My working theory is that Xatalos was scum, JAT (given his play, he's not working quite as hard now over 2 cycles) and obv Palmar are three. I am fine with Onegu being the lynch tbh.
I feel his reasoning (which I have contested) doesn't really add up.
I think obi is town. I do not understand the case on him. His posting quality over time gives a more town vibe the reasoning is clear etc.
I think the last is somewhere in TD/Marv/ksc. I'm sure one of them is tricking me, but not sure whom.
can't easily look up the flavour for Stutters ATM...my only gripe with his gameplay is that'd he'd be doing a tad more (like he did in nsm7) but as Vig no one has cced him etc.
Since I'm out all tomorrow...leave me any questions you have. Will promise to pick it up Sunday when I return (assuming I survive).
Also if anyone needs posts I'll check in when I wake up tomorrow.
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27/50
##give 10 posts to GlowingBear
KSC your checks please (or whom)
I would not shoot Obi or Trfel. At this point not KSC either.
TD, Marv, wait until daypost.
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28/50
Ignore that last post I keep thinking its N3. I'm a doofus.
Yamato seems towny to me as well.
LS, would really like to know where he stands with the scumreads.
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ebwop: ignore regarding the DT checks.
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Not surprised Xatalos was mafia. Really shite reads from him all game.
Apologies to Vivax and Onegu.
GG town, well played. A little suspicious on TD but wouldn't have caught Marv til later.
I'll comment more on the game late tonight.
Also what is a captain? (Trfel's role)?
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