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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
May 11 2015 17:52 GMT
#621
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.

The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 17:53 GMT
#622
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 11 2015 17:53 GMT
#623
On May 12 2015 02:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:45 Vivax wrote:
On May 12 2015 02:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On May 12 2015 02:43 Vivax wrote:
Ahh fuck it I'll think about it after a game of dota.


=/
You are making me quite sad, V.


Why sad? HIgh expectations?


Duh?

On a side note, I haven't really looked into the Jat case but it looked okay at a glance. I'll try to find time to look into it soonish.

it's literally a single fucking post

just wtf
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 11 2015 17:54 GMT
#624
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch

talk to me tina

you've been ignoring me

and I had you as town >_>
Writer@WriterYamato
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 11 2015 17:54 GMT
#625
On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.

The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.


Beautiful.

Back to townpile with you.
Retired.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 11 2015 17:55 GMT
#626
On May 12 2015 02:54 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch

talk to me tina

you've been ignoring me

and I had you as town >_>


Shes not town and you want to know why, she hasnt pushed a BH lynch yet.
Try TL Mafia!!!
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 17:59 GMT
#627
13/60

On May 12 2015 02:54 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch

talk to me tina

you've been ignoring me

and I had you as town >_>


???

i ignore scum buddies i'm not bussing, apparently lol xP so odd comment

regardless

not really sure what to make of you, frankly

this song suits xP



and i dunnae everyone doesn't like jat but i don't find him that bad? he strikes me as way more flamy when he's being scumread as scum, but since i'm not sure i was just going to let y'all pressure him and do my own thing trying to figure him out xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 18:00 GMT
#628
On May 12 2015 02:55 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 02:54 yamato77 wrote:
On May 12 2015 02:53 rsoultin wrote:
12/60

On May 12 2015 02:47 Vivax wrote:
On May 11 2015 22:17 marvellosity wrote:
On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.

btw this post makes it much more likely BM is mafia after my original accusation, because he's still trying to justify it.


On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



Really simple question dudes. What happened to BM here?


ummm he's lynching bm? what's your point?

@xata

don't take this to the bank cause bad track record but i actually think ls could be town this game for the silly little smurf sidebar lol >< also for some of the phrasing used when he did it

kinda more interested why this is the only thing you want to talk about, though. let me make it easy. not lynching ls right now. give me someone else you want to lynch

talk to me tina

you've been ignoring me

and I had you as town >_>


Shes not town and you want to know why, she hasnt pushed a BH lynch yet.


14/60

i hope you're scum this game oneg xD

i really had you as more intelligent than this
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 11 2015 18:01 GMT
#629
On May 12 2015 02:52 Vivax wrote:
On my read so far I also had the feeling JAT was mafia but I really had nothing I could justify it with. On the other hand lots of people seem to think the same but I will need to find something tangible on my own.

The nuke business was pretty interesting. Trfel was in the scummish list of BH during N0 and D1 BH didn't really bother to even figure his alignment out before deciding the anti-nuke. He only asked a question but doesn't seem puzzled about whether he should use it or not.


If Trfel and BH are both scum, it's obviously a must-do to just prevent it. Them both being scum makes sense. If BH is scum and Trfel town, then it doesn't make much sense to prevent it (better save it for a teammate). It only makes sense if he has lots of uses for it and he doesn't need to worry about wasting it. If BH is town, it *somewhat* makes sense to immediately use it (considering the random way BM went about using the nuke) but it's still quite weird to just use it so easily.

All in all I think the most sensible explanations are BH+Trfel being scum or BH being scum and Trfel being town, but BH having enough uses of the ability to afford using it on a townie.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
May 11 2015 18:04 GMT
#630
The BH-Trfel-BM interaction is officially over-analyzed

gj dudes

it's now useless
Writer@WriterYamato
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 11 2015 18:09 GMT
#631
Pre-flip associations are the best
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 11 2015 18:10 GMT
#632
Well the main point was that it makes more sense for BH to be scum either way, it's not necessarily very indicative of Trfel's alignment.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 18:11 GMT
#633
15/60

okay to be more clear why oneg is giving me the icks includes not just a similar take on his tone that marv got but also a couple things that naturally mean more to me than other people -_-

- the overexplained everything...he's more the fuck you i'm gonna do what i want type, at least in most of the games i've played with him, though the one newbie game he was more serious which is why i'm trying to get hts' input (i pay less attention than i should when i'm scum lol)

- secondly, i recently asked him why he always scumreads me every game. which actually isn't true; it just felt like it recently because of guardians where the twit fake-claimed mason with scum rayn while flaming me all game lol >< couple that with the "obligatory" and it almost seems like he's doing it just to ascribe to "meta" that actually isn't really true anyway, just me being sensitive xP

- third, he genuinely believes i'm one of the best people at reading him, yet that's not part of his scumread. it was like the central point of his read when i was scum in student VII (and why he had so much trouble getting people to actually pay attention, i might add). not seeing the OMGUS you always get my alignment right but you're WRONG and therefore SCUM response here. if anything it should be stronger cause i actually did flip scum
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
May 11 2015 18:11 GMT
#634
Trfel, bm and BH are probably all town because why would mafia do any of that? amirite?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 11 2015 18:12 GMT
#635
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 11 2015 18:13 GMT
#636
Hm I guess if BH was town and had tons of uses for it, it might make sense to just shoot down a badly planned nuke. I still think it would make far sense for town BH to wait a bit and see if anything interesting comes out of it / Trfel actually just wasn't scum being shot.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
May 11 2015 18:15 GMT
#637
On May 12 2015 02:59 rsoultin wrote:
and i dunnae everyone doesn't like jat but i don't find him that bad? he strikes me as way more flamy when he's being scumread as scum, but since i'm not sure i was just going to let y'all pressure him and do my own thing trying to figure him out xP

I don't think I am more flamy as scum but it doesn't even matter. Fact is I am not mafia. Pressuring me was never the way to figure out my alignment and it most certainly isn't in a post restricted game.
The only thing yamato is right about is that I wasted posts. I will stop that right now. I will return when there is relevant stuff to talk about/when it is time to really push a lynch because I will need my posts then.
You guys can keep discussing me but I am telling you it is a waste of time. I can assure you that I will not be lynched today.

A thing to keep in mind is that yamato probably does not have the balls to go against me like that as mafia.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
May 11 2015 18:15 GMT
#638
BH is town hero.
Computer says mafia
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#639
Vivax don't just leave when you post one little thing.

I need you to deliver more than that.
Retired.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
May 11 2015 18:21 GMT
#640
On May 12 2015 03:12 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:58 Half the Sky wrote:
15/60

Pfff, you ninjaed me BM.

On May 12 2015 01:51 Bill Murray wrote:
I realize now what you meant but I guess I misread it before

and the differentiation between the lurkers is because Trfel is obviously mafia to me this game

if my nuke doesnt land on him im going to vote him. I am admittedly a little behind this game and need to catch up


Alright, so you still think Trfel is the way to go then. Do you think anything he HAS posted is screaming scum?

Second part of this post aimed at Damdred -

On May 12 2015 01:41 Damdred wrote:
Can we not policy lynch vivax today XD maybe a day vig could just take him out lol.

I agree roughly that the pregame where BM gave his posts up and didn't do much is kinda meh. It helped me immensely at that juncture though. As such the excuse that BM used to fire the nuke isn't necessarily the least believable thing I've ever read. It's based on meta yes but I didn't feel it was horrible, it could of led to some really useful information and its a pity that it didn't. (10)


I explained prior that BH's anti-nuke could be town or mafia motivated. Where do you stand on this (given the bolded statement)?


Theres really not much to say? I think it was dumb of BH but I don't think him being dumb is really indicative...

Anyway I actually like Yamato at this point, hes not useless per scum game. He seems to have actual thoughs behind what hes posting, I think he is an ok town lean presently.

RS can you give me something to work with?

Xata, I agree with you that LS still is scummy and that post is a good example. However, you used the post count restrictions the last time I caught you as well </3. Tell me what you think of Jat, Palmar and Marv.

(11?)


16/60

what the living fuck? am i just posting for my health? either comment on what i'm actually talking about or go away -_- you're pissing me off. OR AT THE VERY LEAST if you think what i'm doing is that useless tell me what the hell you even want me to talk about

give you something to work with my ass -_-

@jat...ls' meta read is better than you think it is lol >< when we were scum together you had like the EXACT SAME argument with hf when he was town and you were scum, practically verbatim, and there is a bullying element to how you play as scum, whether you realize it or not -shrugs-

eh you're probably right about yama...it's some of his one-liners that keep bugging me tbh...that and i remember him going ham earlier in his scum game so i'm not sure it's outside his scum range? he's not someone i want to lynch today by any means, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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