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On May 13 2015 07:43 sandroba wrote: Blazinghand has this weird thing going on where he talks about the amazing game solving he did in the obs QT as if he was alive.I suspect you are talking about noir 3. Did a quick skim of the game and you did no such thing. He was the town hero whose only read was pushing the one blue role. Because he caught the scum after he died. | ||
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I'd still want to lynch Onegu the most, but it seems that the lynch is between Vivax, Blazinghand, and Xatalos. In which case I think that the best chance is with Vivax. I don't find Xatalos terribly scummy from the perspective of him being extremely busy and not having the time to make really deep reads. He isn't pretending that he is playing at his full ability. I don't really like Blazinghand, but he hasn't really made reads yet. I mislynched him last game, and he's willing to do whatever he feels like. I just don't feel confident that he is scum because he hasn't given very much to work with. I don't see what is so impressive about Vivax's posting as of late. His posts don't feel like they have any direction or focus, and he isn't elaborating on his main scumreads. He's pushing reads all over the place, but nothing is very well explained or detailed. Furthermore, Vivax is going to be away for a while, so there will be no more information with which to read him. | ||
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The only reason that I think he is town is meta and activity. Meta being that he was very aggressively poking at people earlier, but in his town games he tends to townread people early (this is uncertain, though, since I did not find a scum game of his where he posted early in the game). His reads have changed with seemingly little reason and his focus has been on the wrong things. I find it hard to see his reads coming from a town mindset. | ||
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On May 13 2015 08:47 justanothertownie wrote: The timing is not ideal, but deal with it. I've told you why I'm not completely sure on him, but I his weird reads as of late are really making me want to lynch him more.We are lynching your target and now 15 minutes before deadline you are coming up with this? Seriously? | ||
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Vivax, if you are town, I'm sorry. | ||
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Kill Blazinghand please. | ||
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I remembered that Blazinghand did that weird thing at the start about scum not knowing who was on their team Night 0. He did nothing at all to discuss the potential implications of this or truly analyze them, and he didn't seem to have this included in any of his reads. | ||
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On May 13 2015 09:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Please. Was I being stupid, idiotic, and even scummy? Yes. Was I trying to distance myself from the lynch? No, I was not. I said Vivax was the best lynch, I was wrong, that's my fault.Life is tough. Trfel posted some interesting things trying to distance himself from the lunch though I'll need to re-evaulate everything tonight, I feel like my reads are in all the wrong places. Be back later. | ||
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In other news, I could be willing to give a few posts to Half the Sky if she needs them. I'm doing pretty well at hitting the 20 posts per 24 hours rate, but my reads are not doing so well.... I also realized that the argument that Blazinghand is town because he could have claimed to have no anti-nukes remaining is really bad. If Blazinghand is mafia and doesn't save marvellosity by claiming to have no anti-nukes left, he can't ever use his remaining anti-nukes without getting immediately lynched. Plus, town would almost certainly have anti-nukes as well, so marvellosity would likely be saved. Batsnacks looks extremely suspicious for the drop in his activity and complete absence throughout the lynch. But I'd like him to come back and explain himself, particularly why sandroba is mafia. I had a townread on him earlier (for getting a very natural balance between jokes/sarcasm and reads), and I can't justify changing that for inactivity alone. Still think that Onegu could very well be scum, though his alignment isn't certain yet. | ||
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On May 13 2015 10:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: It's a meta read. Scum meta comparisons being Game of Thrones Mini Mafia and Carol of the Bells, town meta comparison being Mini Mafia Down Under (1, not 2).Trfel, talk to me in detail because I've kind of been away from the thread: why is KSC town? As town, KelsierSC opens the game by poking and prodding at people. He's generally moderately active is aggressive with his reads. In contrast, KelsierSC isn't very active as scum. In both of the scum games I looked at, he started the game late (I don't know if this is a trend or coincidence). However, he generally townread most people early on, but made sure to have one scumread. His activity and number of scumreads make him mafia here. It's just so distinct from his normal scum play, and in a way that matches his town play very closely. I still feel that he is making a large number of scumreads and doesn't seem to care between them (scummy because he is giving himself a wide pool to lynch from), and his read progression doesn't always make sense to me, but it isn't bad enough that it outweighs his meta clearly indicating that he is town. | ||
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Oatsmaster: On May 13 2015 15:44 Oatsmaster wrote: What does this mean?Trfel's town meta read on Kiel almost seems too good. On May 12 2015 12:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Can you explain this read in more detail, please?Voting BM. There's no way he takes this game so seriously as town. | ||
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On May 13 2015 16:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Why do you say that Bill Murray is not crazy?bolded is town not mafia right? Your post here is pretty good but it feels a lot like you know hes town and then are giving a bunch of reasons why rather than the other way around. I think that this read wont be so certain if you are town basically. A townBM as he has played over the last day would not have shot those nukes. Shooting nukes is crazy town. BM is clearly not crazy. Therefore he is scum. And yes, the bolded "mafia" should be "town". Sorry about that. | ||
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On May 13 2015 17:03 Oatsmaster wrote: That's what I thought you were referring to. This was misread by many, including GlowingBear in his case, as a reference to Bill Murray's meta instead of your (Oatsmaster's) intent, pointing a strange disconnect in his play in this game.Everything other than his nukes makes it seem like he is trying to play the game and isnt INSANE. anyway, hes dead. NEW TOPIC?? Like why you dont want to kill Xatalos Initially, I really liked GlowingBear's case on Oatsmaster, but when I read Oatsmaster's filter, I didn't get the same impression that GlowingBear claimed. I also felt that Oatsmaster's response to GlowingBear's points one and three was acceptable. I actually really think that yamato77 could be mafia here. His play hasn't been very convincing at all. His constant pressure on Blazinghand seemed strange (despite initially sort of defending him, and saying that pressure on him could make him play and that could be good), and I didn't like his read switch on Xatalos (especially because when he scumreads Xatalos, he mentions something that Xatalos had done before yamato77 had townread him). I'm just not seeing the thought process that I would expect from town yamato77. As for Xatalos... I guess I don't really see anything that makes him scum. His reads feel fluid enough to me, and they're mostly reasonable. He hasn't been following the thread sentiment (shown by pushing Onegu and to a lesser extent rsoultin). Furthermore, he is promising activity for Day 2, and he did say that he would be busy before the game began. I read Half the Sky's case on Xatalos, but I disagree with the conclusions that she arrived at. I'm hesitant to say that Xatalos is town because apparently as town, his reads have a lot of depth, and I haven't noticed that here. But I can overlook that for now. | ||
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On May 13 2015 17:37 Oatsmaster wrote: I really dont think following thread sentiment is anywhere near a scumtell as everyone is trying to say. What about his reaction to BM and the whole "DOES HE CARE ABOUT LYNCHING SCUM" thing? He doesnt care about lynching scum and he has weird fucking reactions to shit. On May 12 2015 02:50 Xatalos wrote: This analysis does look suspicious, but it is correct. Even if Xatalos isn't very decisive here, he lets Bill Murray slide until the second nuke on marvellosity actually goes off, which is a sensible progression. Xatalos's actions were reasonably decisive about this, even if his words were not (he did not vote Bill Murray while many others did).About BM: Never played with him before. His nuke spectacle was basically an anti-town way of using the ability, so it might be necessary to policy lynch him or just Vig him. Typically crazy plays come a bit more often from town than scum so that holds me back from just saying anti-town -> scum. And I think that it is good to lynch the traitor. Xatalos's push on Onegu isn't the only thing he's done this game. I really need to go to sleep now. Still suspicious of Onegu as well. Waiting to see what Xatalos and batsnacks come up with. | ||
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On May 14 2015 08:59 Trfel wrote: Or perhaps town are even more idiots.If I die, then the mafia are idiots. | ||
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