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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 15:55 GMT
#561
7/60

On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.


Can you explain why you picked Trfel (aside from him scumming you) to nuke when what you have said could have applied to JAT/Marv/others who are normally active and semi-lurking?

Trfel posted he was busy, it's final exam period in the US, who knows why he's semi-lurky. My argument is that it's premature to call for his lynch or take that action. I can at least contest you weren't reading the thread.

Now I'm not saying JAT or Marv should be nuked at all. But by the standards you have set what you have applied could apply to other players in this game.

Your nukes (even the one on Marv) are coming off as pretty OMGUS at best.
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 15:57 GMT
#562
8/60

On May 11 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Btw if Trfel flips town we lynch BH for TMI and if he flips mafia we lynch BH for saving scumbuddy.

In conclusion we lynch BH.


How are you eliminating the possibility that BH anti-nuked BM based on his tone read of Trfel or a possible scumread (though unstated) on BM because of his action?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 16:02 GMT
#563
9/60

JAT, where do you stand with reads? From reading your filter, you are scumreading ROL.

Who else?

(Also can those familiar with ROL fill me in on what to look for if he's scum? He is the only person I've never played with or hosted on the playerlist. Cheers.)
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 11 2015 16:09 GMT
#564
On May 12 2015 01:02 Half the Sky wrote:
9/60

JAT, where do you stand with reads? From reading your filter, you are scumreading ROL.

Who else?

(Also can those familiar with ROL fill me in on what to look for if he's scum? He is the only person I've never played with or hosted on the playerlist. Cheers.)

I never said I am scumreading RoL - he could be anything really because afaik he is a lurky fuck regardless of alignment.

I don't know who I want to lynch yet. GB had some really really strange posts but he is GB and I also doubt he is this good of an actor. Maybe LS. Damdred brought up a pretty good point about LS only discussing his entrance. I would also be down to policy lynch BM.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
May 11 2015 16:10 GMT
#565
Good morning people, damdred is back on the case.

Many things have happened and yet not a ton at the same time, I feel a lot better about Marv and somewhat better about palmar.

Sand in not sure exactly why you say that about my game and the desparity between this game and others I really don't believe it lol.

I think id rather not lynch bm today, a nuke this early by scum doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

I think we should lynch xatalos!

(9)
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 16:14 GMT
#566
10/60

Looking at Onegu's post, it seems to come from a town Onegu, particularly with the criticism on Rasputin. Although there is one contradictory sentence I don't like, but I think this could be Onegu missing something by accident.

Rasputin had a good start to be quite fair. Although after being tricked by her in two games, I think I have a better sense of what to look for now if she did RNG scum. Going to see if those red flags pop up again.

Regarding Marv's read on Onegu, it's bold, it might be inaccurate but it doesn't make him mafia. If marv IS scum, it's not for this.

On May 12 2015 00:16 Onegu wrote:
Ok so here is why Trfel is town. The way he tried to nuke back immediatly looks townie. Like I have a feeling that scum would already know there are nukes in the game, and the way he did it makes him really townie to me.

Lol @ Marv. Such a shit read on me, I want to roll scum and the fact that I used 3 !, just confirms the fact that I wanted to be scum or able to be scum.

People saying BH should be lynched for TMI is also terrible, If I had a anti nuke I would have stopped it also. Also marv saying it is bad to stop it right away is odd. Like what info are you expecting to get? I feel like this is more blue hunting, maybe finding out who has more anti nukes.

<3 GB for the defense but it was such a shit read you get no points from me for now.

Why is Rsoul getting town read so hard so fast. I know she can look really townie but Im not seeing it. She seems almost lazy to me. Her reads arent that intense either. I know she never has confidence in her reads but still they are normally stronger. Seems soft to me. If she rolled scum and I didnt Im going to be upset. Since this isnt a PM game here is my mandatory non town read on her <3.

I really want to see if BM's second nuke goes off. I think I would find it weird if he can fire 2 nukes in one day.

LS seems less active than I am used to also. Maybe its just a post restriction game.

Yamato could be mafia, see what he does today since he doesnt work. Would be funny if hapa troll rolled him scum.

Could totally sheep Palmar, He is playing and he catches dem scum.

Still have a few filters to read but these are my thoughts off the top of my head.


I agree on LS, but I don't like how he keeps bringing up this game is a post-restricted game. If he's that conscious, do as Damdred and I are doing and count your own damned posts. Although his good-morning post appears towny in of itself, so I think for a better read on LS, maybe see where he's going with his reads. Activity is the most obvious scumtell for LS in most games, but the downside is that he can try and mask that in a post-restricted game.

My only issue is your point on Palmar. You want to sheep Palmar but you have criticism of BH being lynched for TMI.

If you missed that on Palmar

On May 11 2015 21:01 Palmar wrote:
Btw if Trfel flips town we lynch BH for TMI and if he flips mafia we lynch BH for saving scumbuddy.

In conclusion we lynch BH.


Would you still sheep him?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#567
Yup Id still sheep him, Someone smart once said learning to sheep is a very good mafia skill. Dont agree with him on BH but yeah id sheep him still
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#568
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.
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Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
May 11 2015 16:22 GMT
#569
On May 12 2015 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 00:37 marvellosity wrote:
On May 12 2015 00:36 Palmar wrote:
I have found 3 people that call me palmer consistently.

geript, sicklucker, tehpoofter.

all my money on geript

Geript is banned I think so therefore it's tehppofter.



Geript is back, talked to him on TS the other day, plus it was a self ban so I think he can come back early.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 11 2015 16:22 GMT
#570
On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 16:23 GMT
#571
11/60

On May 12 2015 01:10 Damdred wrote:
Good morning people, damdred is back on the case.

Many things have happened and yet not a ton at the same time, I feel a lot better about Marv and somewhat better about palmar.

Sand in not sure exactly why you say that about my game and the desparity between this game and others I really don't believe it lol.

I think id rather not lynch bm today, a nuke this early by scum doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

I think we should lynch xatalos!

(9)


Regarding BM, the main problem I'm having is why he picked Trfel over some of the other potential lurkers or even Palmar by his own standards. To be that sure on one person without asking questions...

He also said he was working on a big post during pre-game....looked at his filter and he's provided some reads but I presumed that "big post" was on what he had thought on pre-game and his refusal to post could have just been a way of trying to skate by pre-game by not doing anything. I don't know his town meta so I'm disregarding it.

Xatalos is in the same boat as Rasputin - decent start but not posted in some hours. I know from Carol (which was his last game anyways) a scumtell for him is loose read, but activity seemed alright and on par in Carol - but does he just go straight up inactive as scum?

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 11 2015 16:24 GMT
#572
Something I wanted to comment on:

On May 11 2015 23:02 Palmar wrote:
To elaborate a bit on the sandroba thing:

Show nested quote +
On May 11 2015 05:36 sandroba wrote:
marvellosity's intro is another one that I found pretty meh as well. I would expect more inquiries from him, maybe all condensed into a single post to adapt to the post cap. Instead I found nothing besides a read that I dissagree with. I'm going to keep an eye on him.


Sandroba can only lynch one person today. Judging by that post he is not sure about marv's alignment which is a perfectly okay stance to have at that point in the game. But why is he then announcing that he's keeping an eye on marv? Wouldn't the list of people he's keeping an eye on be a laundry list of people he doesn't have a townread on yet, and even if that wasn't the case, why announce his intentions to marv if marv happens to be mafia. Wouldn't it be better to just actually keep an eye on him without specifically mentioning it.

Basically the only people the post actually targets is the people in the thread who now should think "Oh sandroba is trying to find out marv is scum, cool".

In the scenario where marv is actually mafia sandroba is essentially warning him that he's going to be checking him out, which just seems like a terrible idea if you're town trying to find mafia.


The whole "keeping an eye on him" thing just seems like a way of indicating that he's suspicious of someone else, not coming up with a convoluted way of not giving a read on him. Seems reachy tbh. Not scum-reachy, but I don't think this is a good case.
Retired.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 16:24 GMT
#573
12/60

EBWOP - At Damdred - BM's pre-game play would be another reason IMO to scumread him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 11 2015 16:25 GMT
#574
On May 12 2015 01:23 Half the Sky wrote:
11/60

Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:10 Damdred wrote:
Good morning people, damdred is back on the case.

Many things have happened and yet not a ton at the same time, I feel a lot better about Marv and somewhat better about palmar.

Sand in not sure exactly why you say that about my game and the desparity between this game and others I really don't believe it lol.

I think id rather not lynch bm today, a nuke this early by scum doesn't make a ton of sense to me.

I think we should lynch xatalos!

(9)


Regarding BM, the main problem I'm having is why he picked Trfel over some of the other potential lurkers or even Palmar by his own standards. To be that sure on one person without asking questions...

He also said he was working on a big post during pre-game....looked at his filter and he's provided some reads but I presumed that "big post" was on what he had thought on pre-game and his refusal to post could have just been a way of trying to skate by pre-game by not doing anything. I don't know his town meta so I'm disregarding it.

Xatalos is in the same boat as Rasputin - decent start but not posted in some hours. I know from Carol (which was his last game anyways) a scumtell for him is loose read, but activity seemed alright and on par in Carol - but does he just go straight up inactive as scum?

Vivax on the other hand has done jack all, and his scum meta (as is Yamato's, though I'm less certain on him for activity) is doing jack all. So why Xata over him?

I actually forgot Vivax is even in this game for a while. Lynch with fire.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
May 11 2015 16:25 GMT
#575
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
May 11 2015 16:29 GMT
#576
On May 12 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out.

Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD?
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 11 2015 16:31 GMT
#577
I think Marv's case on BM is good, but I think that BM's response to Marv is more telling than the case itself:

On May 11 2015 21:48 Bill Murray wrote:
Marv is just scum who doesnt want to keep a powerful town role around
##vote: marv

honestly I summed up why Im nuking Trfel. I played with him last game and he was wayyyy more active early on. He was the first post in the thread, and was dominating thread sentiment D1. I'm seeing a polar opposite from him.


Omgus aside, he changed his read on Marv from town to scum with no new information being brought to the table in the interim. First he said he wanted Marv to stop voting him if he wanted to win, indicating that he was town, only to change his mind 3 posts later before Marv even talked to him or acknowledged what he said at all.

Either way, I'm down with a BM lynch today.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
May 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#578
On May 12 2015 01:29 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2015 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On May 12 2015 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so I not even close to hitting my post limit so yay I can post more freely (bounces around the thread aimlessly). But seriously I donm't think TD is sicklucker or geript for different reasons. sicklucker doesn't post like TD does at all and usually bounces off the walls. TD isn't Geript because by meta Geript doesn't like that even in post restricted games (or his own imposed limit) he usually in his own catch up or imposed limit games he did similar to the style of posting I used in Night 0. I will check out tehppofter in a little bit to see how many games he played and check out his meta. I will report back when I done with my research of his meta.

LS, I really think you could do more important/interesting things than trying to figure this smurf out.

Good point I just checked 2 of his game and already noticed that it's not Tehpoofter's posting style either so who knows we just have to roll a rng die to figure him out. What your thoughts on TD?

I did not really have a problem with any of his posts so far. The town-town mafia-mafia stuff I admit was a bit weird but I don't see why it was a mafia thing to say.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
May 11 2015 16:33 GMT
#579
13/60

On May 12 2015 01:25 marvellosity wrote:
Vivax really is an excellent lynch. Xata pretty ok lynch too though.



I'm putting my vote on Vivax. (It's not policy folks, since his scum meta is known as doing jack all.)

Pressuring Xatalos (again fill me in if he has a history of AFKing as scum) or even Rasputin in due time is not out of the question.

BM I'd prefer he answer the last question on differentiating between the other inactives, even Palmar whom he almost nuked (apparently).

Off for some dinner. I'll be back.

##vote Vivax
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
May 11 2015 16:33 GMT
#580
Vivax is also a fun lynch at this juncture.
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