I was more torn on Palmar and Marv since I was heavily townreading rsoultin but I thought people would take advantage of her being night killed so early lately and thus didn't protect her.

justanothertownie

16324 Posts

May 16 2015 21:35 GMT

#2485

On May 17 2015 06:28 Damdred wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well I was trying to remember where LS reads were and I think,he was torn leaning on those I named

Damn. Legit excuse.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 16 2015 21:39 GMT

#2486

I still don't get why people thought the shot was so bad to rage and call me Scum in thread.

Bm had been pretty scummy honestly and really looked bad for power use etc., to scummy to,be Scum isn't a good defense. And the way he's hot nuke 2 is super scummy even if it's fake.

It was just really confusing to,the thread and even,if,he was town two days of,the same,convo isn't good.

So explain why it's bad to,me ls

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 16 2015 22:00 GMT

#2487

No, wait a minute.

I've played badly, I've being playing badly since my last newbie game (I blame the coaches), but you can't say that I'm never listened to.

Holyflare was lynched in Carol because I kept tunneling him since day2

Marv was going to be lynched at some point and that is why I always kept pointing suspicions on him since he scumread Onegu day1

It's not because I'm playing badly half of the times that I'm playing badly.

Tell me what's wrong with the points I've brought on marv. The last post answering LS.

TalkingDead

102 Posts

May 16 2015 22:01 GMT

#2488

I think the real issue for me is the setup. I think there were too many roles and KP for both sides. The other big thing is that with so much unconcentrated town KP it means mafia has to be super active and reasonable to avoid most of it. In part, the issue was the scum team imploded. BM claimed scum on D1. Xata was lynch bait. Palmer was wholly ineffective and his push on Sandro was really out of place. JAT was mostly lynch bait before claiming scum. Marv played well.

I would've rather seen far fewer roles because that would focus more on play, developing reads, pushing sentiment etc.

I really don't get why Sandro or KSC thought I was mafia. Both in thread and QT I was really really townie imo.

GlowingBear

Brazil12446 Posts

May 16 2015 22:10 GMT

#2489

I've got the impression you could be scum because some of your early posts sounded a little fabricated, but you were the towniest of the scum and more towbie than a lot of townies.

I don't think roles was a problem with the Mafia assassin correctly guessing people. Also, most of town roles were a double edged knife. If Stutters wasn't ballsy to shoot palmar or shot another guy, Palmar would be alive and Stutters would be dead.

RoL was a perfect lynch bait
Onegu also, as day2 showed
I have no idea why nobody from scum picked oats for the lynch. I guess you guys thought he was the traitor?

Just think that one nuke and two shots were perfectly aimed.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 16 2015 22:12 GMT

#2490

I'm not sure if fewer roles would of did anything, after I died lots claimed. I don't think,it really impacted the game like it normally would imo.

I think a lot of stuff was based on gameplay rather than claims

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 16 2015 22:13 GMT

#2491

One nuke three shots XD

justanothertownie

16324 Posts

May 16 2015 22:16 GMT

#2492

On May 17 2015 07:12 Damdred wrote:
I'm not sure if fewer roles would of did anything, after I died lots claimed. I don't think,it really impacted the game like it normally would imo.

I think a lot of stuff was based on gameplay rather than claims

It was not based on claims but that does not mean roles were not important. I think geript is more against roles in general - you know, lynching scum instead of shooting/checking/etc. them.
I really doubt that Palmar would have been lynched for example.

justanothertownie

16324 Posts

May 16 2015 22:17 GMT

#2493

On May 17 2015 07:13 Damdred wrote:
One nuke three shots XD

2 shots then scum stopped playing/started trolling.

Damdred

15669 Posts

May 16 2015 22:23 GMT

#2494

Eh I think,roles really added to,the game to an extent I agree that town had a bot to many kp maybe but it's swings in that regard.

Besides that I thought that almost all the claims were a bit moot since Scum could pick all of there abilities.

Town was dumb claiming though. Though your right without vig Palmar rolls town I think.

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 16 2015 22:27 GMT

#2495

On May 17 2015 06:39 Damdred wrote:
I still don't get why people thought the shot was so bad to rage and call me Scum in thread.

Bm had been pretty scummy honestly and really looked bad for power use etc., to scummy to,be Scum isn't a good defense. And the way he's hot nuke 2 is super scummy even if it's fake.

It was just really confusing to,the thread and even,if,he was town two days of,the same,convo isn't good.

So explain why it's bad to,me ls

Again some people like me were townreading him for being to trigger happy but it was a good shot in end.

KelsierSC

United Kingdom10443 Posts

May 16 2015 22:28 GMT

#2496

On May 17 2015 07:01 TalkingDead wrote:
I think the real issue for me is the setup. I think there were too many roles and KP for both sides. The other big thing is that with so much unconcentrated town KP it means mafia has to be super active and reasonable to avoid most of it. In part, the issue was the scum team imploded. BM claimed scum on D1. Xata was lynch bait. Palmer was wholly ineffective and his push on Sandro was really out of place. JAT was mostly lynch bait before claiming scum. Marv played well.

I would've rather seen far fewer roles because that would focus more on play, developing reads, pushing sentiment etc.

I really don't get why Sandro or KSC thought I was mafia. Both in thread and QT I was really really townie imo.

cos i'm pro as fuck

LightningStrike

United States14277 Posts

May 16 2015 22:29 GMT

#2497

On May 17 2015 07:00 GlowingBear wrote:
No, wait a minute.

I've played badly, I've being playing badly since my last newbie game (I blame the coaches), but you can't say that I'm never listened to.

Holyflare was lynched in Carol because I kept tunneling him since day2

Marv was going to be lynched at some point and that is why I always kept pointing suspicions on him since he scumread Onegu day1

It's not because I'm playing badly half of the times that I'm playing badly.

Tell me what's wrong with the points I've brought on marv. The last post answering LS.

I liked of your points and even then I felt like his play was very lackluster in terms of content and being townie so meh.

Keirathi

United States4679 Posts

May 16 2015 22:34 GMT

#2498

More often than not, a lot of town KP tends to actually be really bad for town.

This game it happened to work out really well, but I would definitely say this game was the exception rather than the rule.

Stutters695

2610 Posts

May 16 2015 23:19 GMT

#2499

On May 17 2015 07:34 Keirathi wrote:
More often than not, a lot of town KP tends to actually be really bad for town.

This game it happened to work out really well, but I would definitely say this game was the exception rather than the rule.

Yeah, especially when someone like myself ends up with it. Normally (and it almost happened this game) I straight up misread someone and we get dead town. I really wanted to clear up the BH/BM/Trfel situation since I still wasn't 100% on BM as scum after the hidden flip. But that felt coinflippy and I didn't want to give scum a free 2 KP. I honestly would have done it though if not for Sand being positive Palmar wasn't town since a 3p kill was just as good for my role. Crazy how one line made that much of a difference when literally everything lines up.

TalkingDead

102 Posts

May 16 2015 23:33 GMT

#2500

Lots of town KP used reasonably is great for town. When people yolo shit it's when its bad. Ie the BH shot was awful.