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-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 20 2015 20:47 GMT
#7
I suppose three months is long enough out to recover somewhat from the previous game. Wasn't sure I'd play again after that last one but...well I guess I can try. Feels kinda nostalgic with some of the same people too.

/in
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 21 2015 01:55 GMT
#9
On April 21 2015 07:20 rsoultin wrote:
!

celeste!

hihi ^^ so glad you decided to give it another whirl lol



Well its been a good while so I figured it can't hurt. Plus I passed my Viva so all I have left to do for my PhD is submit my corrections and its all done so...yeah less stress now too.

And you appear to be going up in the world. Co-hosting now?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 21 2015 02:10 GMT
#11
Well its comforting to see familiar faces anyway.

And you're going to be observing me? Should I be worried?
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 21 2015 11:42 GMT
#13
At least since you're hosting this game I won't have to worry about someone Doc saving you on NKs. Heh.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 22 2015 15:10 GMT
#27
Hey there, HtS. Nice to see you again. ♥

And yeah its pretty gratifying to nearly be finished.


sicklucker in as well? Veritable reunion going on for Newbie Mini Mafia LX scum-side people. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 30 2015 02:52 GMT
#72
On April 30 2015 09:46 The Shining wrote:
Best part is, I scummed you both times. Just didn't case it. So if I smell scum, I'm coming at you full speed. Like a train. Or a wrecking ball.

A wrecking train.


I'm surprised you haven't voted him already.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
April 30 2015 15:25 GMT
#75
Considering the number of mislynches and the frankly bizarre decision to NOT lynch me I'd say you've got more than a few left, HtS.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 01 2015 16:31 GMT
#91
Pregame excuse: I'm just going to afk as much as possible and hope nobody notices me, alright? Right.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 01 2015 22:09 GMT
#97
On May 02 2015 05:15 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 05:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Still waiting to hear back from disformation and Bill Murray


Present and accounted for. You have two PMs. Yes, two because I suck at reading. Hopefully that will work better, when the game actually starts.
Tbh I'm kinda hyped/nervous. xD


Just remember not edit your posts like some dumbass did last game I played and you'll be fine.


...yes, that dumbass was me. >_>
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 02 2015 02:47 GMT
#106
On May 02 2015 07:17 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2015 07:09 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 02 2015 05:15 disformation wrote:
On May 02 2015 05:01 kitaman27 wrote:
Still waiting to hear back from disformation and Bill Murray


Present and accounted for. You have two PMs. Yes, two because I suck at reading. Hopefully that will work better, when the game actually starts.
Tbh I'm kinda hyped/nervous. xD


Just remember not edit your posts like some dumbass did last game I played and you'll be fine.


...yes, that dumbass was me. >_>


typically editing is a mistake that gets made once every newbie game. don't sweat it! we all learn


My problem is that I'll post and then if its a long one I'll typically edit it like five times minimum. Was a very hard habit to break. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 02:34 GMT
#300
Hey guys. Sorry for the late entry. I've been somewhat distracted playing KanColle recently; there's an event on and I'm desperate to clear it, first event I've been in. Anyway there's probably just about enough to write something on most people now so...off we go.

Unfortunately in the time I've been away I've NOT been keeping an eye on games going on. Then again I tend to prefer any meta reading from games people have actually been in together. On with the show:


Reads:

Tictock has posted nothing. So I got nothing. Neutral.

y0su hasn't really posted very much but I think this is their first game? None of the posts so far come across as being scared, on the other hand ALL of their posts since the game started have been basically off-topic with no real attempt to push anyone or draw any reads. Neutral, want to see some actual worthwhile stuff pretty fast though or that'll start drifting red.

disformation starting post I REALLY don't like. However he IS making an attempt to start producing reads. Earnest newbie with a weak entry I think. Weakly town.

scott31337 was REALLY quick to jump on a HtS vote after Superbia claimed that HtS saying she was away wasn't in her filter. And he didn't take the time to check it himself. That's either incredibly sloppy play or he's scum.

ritoky's sole post of note is an easy push on disformation. Other than that he's just posting nonsense and off-topic stuff. Coming across as pretty scummy to me; complete misdirection plays.

The Shining decent filter length (not many people on two pages), asking for opinions, pressuring people. Not exactly opening strong on his reads but I seem to remember him playing the same game last time around with "I can't do day 1" so I'm almost inclined to believe it. Also picked up on the HtS thing. Probably town.

Half the Sky already said she wouldn't be here until tomorrow evening. Not giving her a free pass for the whole of "Daytime 1" but for now I can't really say anything here.

Superbia early vote on HtS, then either misses her post in the filter dives or flat out lies about it (I'm thinking the former because it's a REALLY easy lie to prove wrong). Also went for the easy pressure on disinformation (like ritoky) and since the HtS thing fell apart hasn't done much.

FecalFeast appears to be both engaging people, picking at things that don't fit and also supremely relaxed. Town.

prplhz hasn't done much except making vague comments about how he doesn't like The Shining's initial post. Can't really say more without seeing more.

sicklucker posted nothing. Withholding judgement.

Stutters695 again posted nothing. However he stated "going to catch up real quick." and then didn't follow up on it. Neutral until he does something worth having.


Initial thoughts:

I could place Superbia and scott in a mafia team together here. HtS is inactive, Superbia puts up a pressure vote and then posts that she didn't say she was going to be away (although it's a pretty easy lie to prove false, so it's more likely he just missed it). Him missing it in and of itself isn't necessarily alignment indicative; but scott's reaction and total trust that Superbia is telling the truth is a gigantic red flag for me, since mafia team members would inherently trust each other's comments like that. scott votes as well in order to start getting pressure on HtS and maybe start a vote train because people are fairly easily swayed on day 1 and in the meantime the two of them can feed off free town credit as being people who were leading a vote train.

Although scott would have really weird luck to roll mafia so often.

Other than that I'm going to point my final finger at ritoky from the simple lack of anything useful despite a fair few posts in here; plus the circumstantial evidence of both him and Superbia pressuring the same guy. Also was recently making excuses for Superbia who I've got a bad feeling about.


Queries:

Stutters - care to follow up on your "catching up" comment? Some reads, if you please.

Would also like to see something from prplhz and ritoky. Both have been in the thread since the start here but neither have posted much of anything.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 02:46 GMT
#310
Oh and I didn't leave a note on who I'd lynch at this point.

If I had to vote right now I'd put it on scott. His response to Superbia's note that HtS didn't say that she was going to be away was terrible. Either he was bandwagonning with a fellow mafia or he's town playing in a way that is absolutely detrimental to a town win (by blindly trusting what someone claimed without checking it themselves). Either way its a liability.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 02:49 GMT
#312
On May 03 2015 11:45 Fecalfeast wrote:

sicklucker HAS posted, only 2 posts IIRC


His two posts are these:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=7#131
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=7#134

A broken BB code post trying to embed a town claim in spoilers and him asking "Scott are you the dude that always posts in obs qts?" doesn't really amount to anything substantial to me I'm afraid. X-D
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 02:49 GMT
#314
On May 03 2015 11:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 11:46 -Celestial- wrote:
Oh and I didn't leave a note on who I'd lynch at this point.

If I had to vote right now I'd put it on scott. His response to Superbia's note that HtS didn't say that she was going to be away was terrible. Either he was bandwagonning with a fellow mafia or he's town playing in a way that is absolutely detrimental to a town win (by blindly trusting what someone claimed without checking it themselves). Either way its a liability.

Not sure if this was written after mine/ritoky's posts but that's a good thought process if you wrote this first


I was writing it when you guys were posting.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 02:52 GMT
#316
On May 03 2015 11:49 y0su wrote:
you're (both) doing a good job convincing me that the filter miss would have just been a mistake


Personally I think the filter miss of Superbia WAS a simple mistake, an oversight. But scott's response to it was either terrible town play or a gleeful scum play jumping on HtS not being around in an attempt to take a leading role in a lynch for some early town credit.

I know the whole associative reads between Superbia and scott isn't the best way to do it; but given how mafia team members would inherently trust what each other posts I don't think its too far of a stretch.

Everything on ritoky is circumstantial. But its my best third read at the moment to round the team off.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:01 GMT
#319
On May 03 2015 11:56 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 03 2015 11:49 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 03 2015 11:45 Fecalfeast wrote:

sicklucker HAS posted, only 2 posts IIRC


His two posts are these:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=7#131
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=7#134

A broken BB code post trying to embed a town claim in spoilers and him asking "Scott are you the dude that always posts in obs qts?" doesn't really amount to anything substantial to me I'm afraid. X-D


then what do you make of shining's vote pressure and desire to push SL into actively playing D1?


I don't like pressure votes but accept that its a valid tactic. I don't really have a problem with Shining doing that.

As far as sicklucker goes simply saying "I don't play Day 1s" and then trying to wave that around as an excuse to just lurk doesn't really fly with me. You're wasting an entire lynch period that you could be using to hunt for scum. It doesn't make sicklucker look great at all and if he really DOESN'T play then he's definitely going to drift red for me. That being said as a day 1 lynch its just policy, and isn't worth doing unless there really aren't any better targets.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:14 GMT
#327
On May 03 2015 12:05 scott31337 wrote:

Never checked voting thread-Celestial

Never voted for HtS-Me


Don't play dumb. You voted HtS in-thread before Superbia posted a link to the voting thread and before you realised there was a voting thread. Proof:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#210
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#211
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#215
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/483492-newbie-student-mafia-ix?page=11#217

On May 03 2015 09:34 scott31337 wrote:
EBWOP
##Unvote
##Vote: Half the Sky



On May 03 2015 09:38 Superbia wrote:
Vote here boys:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/484531-newbie-student-mafia-ix-voting-thread


On May 03 2015 09:40 scott31337 wrote:
Oh we do have a thread - last one didn't.. ty



Now you're misrepresenting what happened in an attempt to make me look bad and yourself look good. Keep an eye on me all you like but you're looking scummier by the minute and its certainly enough for me to put a vote on you.

##Vote: scott31337
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:15 GMT
#330
Also since you didn't care to read forward you'll notice I DID address the sicklucker thing.

More lies and misrepresentation. Scum alarm going off in my head.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:21 GMT
#336
On May 03 2015 12:14 scott31337 wrote:
I actually meant to vote. + Show Spoiler +
but wanted to see Celestial's reaction with posting only in the voting thread. He didn't mention I did vote for SL though - who he says hasn't posted either
I need to read another game of his if he has any (He said he took a couple month break, so it may not even exist) Cel's got me worried a little bit.


You're talking nonsense now. Yes, you voted for Sicklucker. Well, in-thread again, not in the actual vote topic. But you did that AFTER your case against HtS fell apart. Given that I'm pretty sure you're scum now my guess is that after you saw you couldn't get away with going after one inactive you went after a different one.

In any case, that vote is irrelevant to how you played the HtS situation.

And I've played precisely one other game. Which was the one with you and I was the Mafia Roleblocker that game. Feel free to check it if you want, its in my profile (I think I stole the profile style from HtS). If you don't believe that's my only one then feel free to check the mafia database, I'm second in the player records section:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/390080-tl-mafia-database
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
May 03 2015 03:24 GMT
#338
On May 03 2015 12:16 scott31337 wrote:

So why are you reacting on the HtS vote so much when I did vote for sicklucker? He had his two posts? Is he your scumbuddy and not wanting to draw attention to? But HtS is free reign, eh?


What? Did you actually miss the entire point of my case on you?

I'll spell it out: the case on you is NOT because you voted HtS. Its because of the fact you voted HtS blindly in response to a claim from Superbia that you DID NOT CHECK.

That's either terrible town play or pure scum. And you constant misrepresentation of everything here firmly makes me believe scum. I'm going to need to see a damn convincing argument from someone at this point to want to lynch anybody else. Either you're scum or you're playing in a way that is going to make town lose.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
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