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How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here? IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him. In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance. People can throw fear reads as either alignment. What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion? | ||
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Half the Sky
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On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote: and since when do mafia nk the most likely towns they always go for da roles Seriously? Why do you think Holyflare often gets N1ed in games? How often is he blue when this happens? *facepalm* | ||
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On May 06 2015 04:41 sicklucker wrote: I think i looked pretty good when i put some time into it All of three posts in your entire filter, and the last of those three posts you are just rehashing what you stated. You could be doing that as either alignment. | ||
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On May 06 2015 04:47 Superbia wrote: You're in a position where you should be able to see the merits of scum switching if you're town. Why was scum not swayed by arguments in the last moments and switched to you? Or did they? If so, who was it? I want you to draw conclusions from my aggression versus you and the fact that everyone kept their vote on Scott. Also where are you at with my alignment right now? Need to re-read EoD one more time but I know FF/SL made a mention of having scant time left and debating whether to switch or not. Tictock looks bad for reasons I stated. Shining soft pushed me on the same post that ritoky did in response to one of Shining's questions but then completely AFKed the thread without any conclusion on my response to HIS question. I already made my case that of everyone in the exchange, he actually looks the worst. prplhz as I stated earlier N1 was making a lot of backseat pushes (basically not as involved or invested as you or ritoky) on me, and then N1 start he's on Stutters and makes zero comment on me - same with you until now. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Unless I missed it, leading up to end of day 1, your read progression on me to sum up was "do more shit" - I did stuff - you call it BS without substantiating the arguement about 90 minutes prior to EoD. The read progression wasn't there. Your approach felt very sudden - it was out of nowhere you say after 2 minutes of reappearing and reading you were like "I could lynch HTS and disinformation". So the tone really didn't come across to me as genuine, more of a desperate "toys-out-the-pram" approach. I asked you to substantiate the read by the time I get back in thread (approx 30m prior EoD) and you said you didn't have time - could be evasive, could be legit. I didn't take that non-answer as indicative at that time since time was short. Now? I like how you questioned ritoky's post and I had the same sentiment. But asking us our D1 performance doesn't give anything useful and loaded questions usually are given by mafia to deflect attention from yourself. So I saw mafia agenda in that. Also some of the questions you are asking indicates you are not really reading the thread. The questions you asked ritoky (about my alignment) and Stutters were literally answered in the page or two before you asked the question. Not reading the thread usually indicates you're not invested in the game. I'll be completely honest - for those reasons I still have a scumread on you. If you are somehow town, you are/have been extremely tunnelled. | ||
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On May 05 2015 04:24 The Shining wrote: [...] As for Scott, I agree with the points made against him. And if it were any other player, I'd be worried about no one defending him but if he is in fact scum, it would mean he rolled scum every game he's played here. I could understand the lack of defense, lack of posting, possible lack of motivation as someone who is tired of rolling scum as a newbie. As I said before, a town trait - even if you sheep a case - is to sheep town reads, and it's not clear in the post who he's sheeping or why or anything. This is an answer where he's not accountable for his actions - if you were to name a townread, there's some sort of progression. Saying I agree with everyone, or inferring that - this is quite a weak reason to throw his vote on Scott and with 3.5 hours to go (when the vote went down) he had more than enough time to read the thread and come up with a better progression. If Shining is here, I'd like to know 1 why the vote didn't go down earlier in the day if he was suspicious of him 2 what conclusions you had on me at EoD if any and what now And of course, updated reads. | ||
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On May 06 2015 05:37 prplhz wrote: yea i don't know. i COULD buy it but i'm not necessarily buying it. maybe it's a bad idea to read too much into it. I smell more scumlike behaviour...why are you so afraid to commit after you said ticktock looks horrible? On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote: dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that. | ||
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Half the Sky
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On May 06 2015 04:45 Half the Sky wrote: How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here? IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him. In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance. People can throw fear reads as either alignment. What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion? | ||
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Half the Sky
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You missed the point. What you said (and even what I said) was 100% wifom. You're not really achieving anything talking about nightkills. What are your reads? | ||
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On May 06 2015 05:53 Fecalfeast wrote: current scummers: sl, shining, maybe super, maybe ritoky maybes based on tonereads recently. town: HtS, disambiguation, -c- Playing video games til daypost Reasoning? (For any of the reads aside from the maybes) Disinformation is a newbie. What jumps out at you as townie? You also left y0su out. Where do you stand on him? | ||
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On May 06 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote: he is already town. as a newer player he spearheads a lynch on a townie day 1 and really believed in his read, which for a non new player is meh, but a newer player doesnt usually make that play as mafia. so he is already super town. i then say his read makes no sense to me, he stays calm, tries his best to explain the read, displays a healthy level of paranoia in his reads and seems legitimately flustered over being wrong. he then stops himself from going too far in the tank. it is a blatant stream of consciousness post all in the form of a town mindset on top of him being super town to begin with. guy is so town it hurts. Alright, fair. I also interpret "confirmed" town as a flipped town or a DT check or some mechanic that actually literally confirms that person, which is why I asked. | ||
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Half the Sky
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Anyhow... Likely Town Celestial (would be interested in how he sees people N1) Stutters695 (post D1 play, would have to see inconsistencies to move down) Leaning town ritoky (will revisit to confirm either way - questioning of myself seemed reasonably thought out but do have a fear read based on meta) y0su (move down if he falls off) Slight town to null Fecalfeast (had a good d1 IMO, but I need to understand where he's coming from with his latest reads) Null sicklucker (will move down if he's not contributing much) Review pending disinformation (nothing scum jumps out at me at the moment, but I want to revisit his filter for any possible mafia motivations) Leaning scum Shining (could move up or down, pending responses) Tictock (I know he's in the process of responding, will update if he does before I have to AFK) Scum Superbia (Inconsistencies are adding up - could move up if I can get an explanation for what I feel is a mafia agenda. EoD behaviour, what I feel is deflection/misdirection) Lynch It With Fire prplhz (EoD behaviour/post lynch behaviour and that wishy washy sequences of posts on tictock) | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:18 Stutters695 wrote: So you've got me as lynchable but not prpl. What in the flying fuck. Admittedly, I read this as a scumread on Shining and not of you, but either way he needs to explain that. | ||
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1 What are your thoughts on the behaviours of people close to/at EoD? The people who were active at the time IIRC were Superbia, myself, ritoky, disformation, prplhz, Celestial, sicklucker. (So were FF/Scott, but they are both flipped, so leave them out, obv) 2 How confident are you in your current town reads? Do you potentially think any of them could be misleading? (Granted Celestial already highlighted one of them for you but the others?) Also curious to see the rest of your reads. (Sidenote: Yeh I also keep typing disinformation as well lol.) | ||
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On May 06 2015 19:28 -Celestial- wrote: Is this a drunken claim? If it is then that simplifies things a bit (though I dunno, game has a Godfather in it...). Although if its supposed to be a more generic statement then I agree that HtS should probably have been the cop check if there was one last night. sicklucker is experienced enough that I wouldn't see him outing or even breadcrumbing a green check on D2 after a ML. There's no motive for him to out, people are calling him for lurking (and I reiterate that again now) but he's not absolute top lynch on people's list atm. There's no pressure and it's early in the day. | ||
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On May 06 2015 08:15 Superbia wrote: Like I believe that there was a divide between team Superbia and team Celestial yesterday, and I think both teams are town at this point in time, which kind of explains the lack of activity at EoD1. That leaves me with towns: - Superbia - Ritoky - Celestial - Half the Sky I am fine with throwing prp in there as well. My town read on y0su is pretty much gone. I am expecting huge things from The Shining, as his pre-game excuse has vanished. So let me see if I understand your rationale correctly. Stutters and prp have exactly one scumread, the former on prp and the latter on myself. You're willing to start a train on Stutters even though: 1 your opinions of myself are changing/have changed (and you use your echoing of thoughts of prplhz as the basis for townreading him) and his really hadn't 2 you expand your potential scumreads and prplhz is not, or hasn't yet If you're not "mind-melding" with him or whatever the term is called, any longer, why are you still townreading him? | ||
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