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The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 06:15 GMT
#1403
Annnnnddd League NA is under emergency maintenance. Someone come back to thread please, I'm bored and lonely.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 06:42 GMT
#1405
I'd be playing other games if RIOT WOULD FIX THE NORTH AMERICA SERVER DAMN IT /endrage

Meh, that's my mistake. "Every time you make that statement, you smell more and more like scum." I suppose what I was getting at was you're not really giving a solid scumread here. You're making a conditional read. It reads as if him not saying he was confirmed town anymore would make him not scum anymore. And if you're scumming him, what makes him better than, say, Prpl(your current vote)?

Whether you sheeped/parroted there or not, it stands to reason that claiming you were caught up meant you had seen me, or someone, call him out on using the confirmed town phrase. Even if it bugged you on your own, it's kind of hard not to think to yourself, "hey, didn't this bother someone else, too?" Presenting it like that makes it look an original thought, which it wasn't.

I actually agree with what you're saying about Ritoky(obvs, I mentioned the conftown thing, too) but I'm just trying to get a feel for where you're at. Am I wrong in saying your current scum is Prpl/Ritoky/SL?

What do you think of Disformation "pressure voting" me and what he's done since?
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 07:40 GMT
#1409
Cheers. I'll eventually deliver on that promise. Problem is, it was a bold and stupid statement. Coming off of a random, unnamed game in which consecutive scum were lynched, I felt overly confident that we'd flip scum D1. Horribly brave assumption. Association reads aren't as good when we ended up with a mislynch =/ but I do still need to revisit EoD and the votes. It's 3:30 am here though and I work tomorrow so this will probably be my last post. I'll do that when I get to work, provided I have time, which I should.

I had just skimmed up the most recent posts at that point and in the last 2-3 pages, my name came up more than once as scum or lurker. It was one of the more recent feelings of thread sentiment and it involved me so I reacted to it.

Boop. You get a town point for referencing my post to yours and the differences. Yeah, calling himself conftown and calling others conftown. It's just really strong terminology and leaves an impression, especially in a newbie game.

And then we're back to iffy. On the one hand, I do like that you're looking at a lot of different people and angles. On the other, you have 3 scumreads, with a backup. >_< I'm not sure if that's townie paranoia or just a fallback for when one of them gets lynched and doesn't flip scum.

I do agree on Prpl, too. Now that we're well into the 2nd half of D2, inactivity is just going to hurt us more and more. I don't think anyone is letting him sit there and do nothing but there's no sense in saying "prpl do something" when he isn't here to read it and every time he shows up, he isn't doing anything.

Yeh I'm sleepy...I'll be back tomorrow. Night TT, night town.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 17:45 GMT
#1493
Catching up omw to work. Voting prp. More when I get to work.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:03 GMT
#1590
Oh sick we got the RB. That's more than I hoped for, kind of shocked scum would let that happen.

Yeah, Stutters looks pretty bad off of this. SL is also an outlier vote, that looks horribad post flip.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:22 GMT
#1615
Man thanks prpl. You really helped town this game. Gave us an easy scum lynch, stopped Super from shooting me. Karma would've bit my ass there, I shot town Stutters as vig in a past game. I would've seen the same fate lol. Note that town Stutters that game wasn't the same guy this game.

Hmmmm. I'll go more in depth on this after eon but I do agree. Stutters needs to go and will likely flip scum.

Dis and Super unCCd blues. Scum doesn't claim vig in the night, as scum would need two town shots at night to prove it. Once that doesn't happen, fakeclaim is insta lynched. Also can't blame it on RB. He flipped already.

At this point, they're confirmed. Stutters likely flips scum and going forward, lynch out of y0su, TT, Rit. Cel and HtS are obvtown and I won't vote either tomorrow.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:30 GMT
#1621
On May 08 2015 08:26 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:22 The Shining wrote:
At this point, they're confirmed. Stutters likely flips scum and going forward, lynch out of y0su, TT, Rit.


Why tictock and ritoky might be scum? Or is that a PoE result?


Poe provided Stutters flips scum. That's why I said I'd go more into it eon.

Also I wasn't suspecting SL? I'm pretty sure I've had him as bad/unproductive SL thru meta because that's what I have him now.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:31 GMT
#1622
On May 08 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:
dis was just covering for me


What is this even
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:33 GMT
#1624
On May 08 2015 08:14 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:01 disformation wrote:
Yeah, I can see that.
Getting pushed by HtS into rethinking superbia three times a day, was exhausting too. xD
HtS is one scary lady.


This is why I'm in these newbie games....I'm honestly one of the worst town players in TL :/


Meh as long as I'm still on TL, you won't ever be THE worst =P
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:37 GMT
#1626
Lol I did post that. Ugh I'm tired, I don't even remember writing that but I do know where I was going with it. I mean, his vote does look horrible. But does scum SL willingly make himself the lone outlier vote? That screams suicide.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 07 2015 23:38 GMT
#1627
On May 08 2015 08:34 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2015 08:31 The Shining wrote:
On May 08 2015 08:24 ritoky wrote:
dis was just covering for me


What is this even


exactly what it says


...I could say so much but this isn't for night phase. We'll talk.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 01:44 GMT
#1644
Ok SL probably needs to be lynched. How many times in one game are you going to come in and spew shit without even reading? Like that is so blatantly anti town. Going into d3, I'd be an idiot to let you keep doing this under the guise of bad town play.

That reaction to my post is bad, too. You were the only one not voting confirmed scum before he was confirmed. Blaming it on laziness is bs, especially when he claimed, was CCd by Dis and tried to lie and say he meant cop. Not to mention, my post was saying it was too scummy and obvious to be scum. But now that I think about it, it's you and that should never be an excuse.

Also, wanting the doc save on you when we have two unCCd blues is just...I don't even know. Like, let's save the question mark over a conf town? No. Another anti town point.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 02:09 GMT
#1646
Yeah I was excusing the vote, not scumming him for it, and he comes back and tells me it's not alignment indicative. Felt like a defensive post, and unnecessary.

And I'd lynch him solely off of doing that more than once, while trying to direct blues without reading. I can't even begin to fathom where that town motivation would come from.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 22:40 GMT
#1709
Ugh.

This is why I said I'd speak to ritoky about this post eon, when the nk and shot flipped. Dis hadn't come back yet to refute the cc but I did pick up on what y0su did, though I found it far less likely and believable.

Especially since both blues have claimed. It could be a ploy to get the doc save onto him and leave Super open for the nk, instead of doc saving Super.

Of course, since it's been speculated on, scum has a better idea of what to do now. Meh.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 22:47 GMT
#1714
HtS, the way I understood that post, he's insinuating Super was rbd to stop him from shooting a scum you, even though he hasn't crumbed a role, nor did he look blue.

And he's doing so without outright scumming you himself. Odd.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 22:49 GMT
#1715
On May 09 2015 07:45 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:33 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 09 2015 06:15 -Celestial- wrote:
Except its directly pertinent to the night kills because if I'm right Superbia could be shooting the wrong person.

Explain why you outright believe ritoky's claim that disfo was claiming for him despite the fact that disfo has NOT confirmed this yet.

Compare VII (town) and this game.

You honestly don't even have to read his filter, just skim it and you'll see a remarkable difference.

If you do want to look it over, let me point you to pg 10/11 of VII. Prpl was active d1/n1 (9ish pg filter) then fell off d2/n2 when I started pushing him for the same reasons in that game. His reaction was to not push anything when he didn't have time and just straight defend him being town. Once the pressure was off he went back to low content, large quantity (not bad, just a lot of one/two liners related to the game). After the game, it made me see a larger difference in his play after misreading his meta twice (lack of defensiveness and longer posts that say less).

Dinner rush is happening, so I don't think I'll be around before the EoN again. If you shoot me no hard feelings.

Apologies for my play, I just haven't had enough time to really build a case.


...what on earth are you talking about here and why are you linking me to prplhz when I'm questioning y0su and asking him about ritoky?


He quoted the wrong post but Super did ask him to explain his entire thought process, read and push.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 22:57 GMT
#1717
On May 09 2015 07:53 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:40 The Shining wrote:
Ugh.

This is why I said I'd speak to ritoky about this post eon, when the nk and shot flipped. Dis hadn't come back yet to refute the cc but I did pick up on what y0su did, though I found it far less likely and believable.

Especially since both blues have claimed. It could be a ploy to get the doc save onto him and leave Super open for the nk, instead of doc saving Super.

Of course, since it's been speculated on, scum has a better idea of what to do now. Meh.


Again, in no universe does scum kill the second claim here. It just makes no sense in a non-PM environment where you can't privately set up your gambit with people you trust. The first claim is almost definitely the actual real one.

The sole way you get away with this is if there are only newbies on the scum team and they're not listening to their coaches. Which I find hard to believe.


Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 07:49 The Shining wrote:
On May 09 2015 07:45 -Celestial- wrote:
On May 09 2015 07:33 Stutters695 wrote:
On May 09 2015 06:15 -Celestial- wrote:
Except its directly pertinent to the night kills because if I'm right Superbia could be shooting the wrong person.

Explain why you outright believe ritoky's claim that disfo was claiming for him despite the fact that disfo has NOT confirmed this yet.

Compare VII (town) and this game.

You honestly don't even have to read his filter, just skim it and you'll see a remarkable difference.

If you do want to look it over, let me point you to pg 10/11 of VII. Prpl was active d1/n1 (9ish pg filter) then fell off d2/n2 when I started pushing him for the same reasons in that game. His reaction was to not push anything when he didn't have time and just straight defend him being town. Once the pressure was off he went back to low content, large quantity (not bad, just a lot of one/two liners related to the game). After the game, it made me see a larger difference in his play after misreading his meta twice (lack of defensiveness and longer posts that say less).

Dinner rush is happening, so I don't think I'll be around before the EoN again. If you shoot me no hard feelings.

Apologies for my play, I just haven't had enough time to really build a case.


...what on earth are you talking about here and why are you linking me to prplhz when I'm questioning y0su and asking him about ritoky?


He quoted the wrong post but Super did ask him to explain his entire thought process, read and push.


Oh, right. That was very confusing. X-D


I agree but regardless of the validity, us speculating and disproving it at night isn't the best move. Better off leaving scum drowning in the wifom and pinging ritos yosu during day phase.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 22:58 GMT
#1718
Ebwop: pinging ritoky and yosu during day phase.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 23:08 GMT
#1731
Do a little dance.

Make a little love.

Shoot scum tonight. Gj super, GG and gj Dis, gg Stutters.

Only gf left. Kind of torn between ritoky, yosu, sl for last scummer. Need to do some reading.
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
The Shining
Profile Joined December 2014
United States2406 Posts
May 08 2015 23:16 GMT
#1735
On May 09 2015 08:09 Half the Sky wrote:
ritoky's questioning of Stutters N1 makes him most probable town.
Superbia obviously confirmed town.
Most confident of Shining/Celestial too.

Honestly it's down to y0su, tictock and sicklucker.


Mmmmm that's what I was going to read for. Reads, interactions, pushes on Stutters. The point on ritoky does help him, I suppose. Maybe newbie scum team would in fact fall for that, idk.

And I forgot TT. Yuck. Yeah need to revisit him too. Super conftown. Anyone attempting to claim vig and shooting Stutters is obvscum.

Lynch yosu today imo
Always and Never are two words you should always remember never to say.
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