EPTTime and again, I sign up for a newbie and we lynch inactives, newbies and inactive newbies. Can anyone tell me the results of that the last 2 Student games?
Town loss, no scum lynched. I'm looking for the active scum first this time.
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The Shining
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Time and again, I sign up for a newbie and we lynch inactives, newbies and inactive newbies. Can anyone tell me the results of that the last 2 Student games? Town loss, no scum lynched. I'm looking for the active scum first this time. | ||
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The Shining
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On May 07 2015 06:41 ritoky wrote: on phone so don't have much capabilities of posting quality info. but i think there's at least 1 between ticktock and prp. and 1 between y0su and shining. Would love to see you come back when not on mobile and actually explain this. Because I'm in your filter right now and this isn't what I'm seeing. Do tell. | ||
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The Shining
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On May 06 2015 02:59 ritoky wrote: okay. so you're pretty much confirmed town. so there's me, -c-, and probably y0su as conf town. although y0su is afk a ton so gotta be wary of me just giving him a pass on 1 thing. dunno, i am real conflicted on hts. she says townie things but i dislike her tone, she notices things i notice but reacts the wrong way. i guess the heart of it stems from people having town reads on her at this point and i can't comprehend why. at best she is a complex null. i think that from a straight objective standpoint. Bolded. On May 06 2015 03:58 ritoky wrote: superbia, gimme your read on y0su Picks his pocketbuddy for a yosu read. Then? Nothing else. No progression. One of yosu and Shining are scum. Where did your confirmed town read go? And why are you confirming ppl pre flip? | ||
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The Shining
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I'm not scumming Cel here but the spear head now on Prpl(wouldn't a newbie town be a little hesitant to push so Damn hard after that Scott ml?) Is enough to make me not strong town read him anymore. Definitely not enough to call someone confirmed town. | ||
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The Shining
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Meh, ritoky ignored or didn't see the question HtS put up, either. I'm taking my town read back. | ||
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I agree with the off wagon mafia point. Thing is, and I hate to use this, but I've seen ppl defend TTs vote, as well as TT defending it, too. Newbie, pressured, etc. Prp doesn't have that excuse. Mmmm welp yosus my next filter. I didn't like what Super pointed out about him seeming to make excuses for me. It's a stretch but scum yosu would know my alignment and would be weary of being blamed for pushing my ml the hardest without interacting with me or finding solid to scum me on. He doesn't have that on me so he makes an excuse. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:12 ritoky wrote: @hts: don't understand the relevancy of your question. there's a lot of game, if your primary reason is tone at this point, read is pretty meh. The way I read it, you're scumming her for her tone shift(tone reasoning), then criticizing the Superbia because of tone. So when is it acceptable and when isn't it? You got at me for inconsistencies in my reads(towning A for doing xyz but not B, who also did xyz). What I see here is you scumming for xyz, then criticizing the Superbia train for xyz. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:14 ritoky wrote: i guess to try and summarize in a small amount of text why shining could be mafia instead of y0su. it has to do with always being behind in the thread, summary information, only really doing shit when pinged out, and the like. This was always going to happen, since D1 fell on my weekend. But this is misinformation now. I'm here. I'm not behind in the thread. I've referenced recent interactions. I'm interacting. I'm not just summarizing, I've pulled examples from your filter. And yes, I was pinged out by everyone. Last night, yesterday afternoon, etc. So anything I do after that is doing it after being pinged out, regardless of whether I was going to or not. How is that alignment indicative? | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:19 -Celestial- wrote: Alternatively if I was showing I was scared and unwilling to push people then people would think that I'd drove the mislynch train and then gone quiet, hoping not to be noticed in the fallout. Both are potentially very good reasons to scum me in fairness. Yeah. My point is, it happened and it's enough for me to scum you or at least not town you. And no one has questioned it. You've even got a conf town read for it. I just want to know why. | ||
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On May 07 2015 07:21 ritoky wrote: i had a small scum read on her for it that i was intentionally blowing out of proportion to try and get a 2nd wagon for vote info. it mildly worked. in reality it was a small scum read. and yes i think by day 2 if you start your superbia is mafia reads with "he sounds off" and people really key in on that. it is a meh read that is probably bad. So it's acceptable when you do it to make a read more serious than it is for info purposes but it's not acceptable when someone is using it, amongst other things, to make a case? | ||
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On May 07 2015 05:47 y0su wrote: It's a lot of excuses. Very scummy. His only "read" is a weak town on HtS in which he goes wifom to justify it being weak. That said, RL comes up so I'm not going to jump on him cause he's not the only one afk (or lurking). Y0su, it's still making excuses for me. The fact that you saw me make the mobile excuse myself and are using that for why you can call my read weak(really soft push, take a stance) but accept my RL excuse is bad. If you think I'm having trouble keeping up or because of real life, wouldn't that explain my "weak" read? You also haven't commented on the fact that you've been lying/misrepresenting me. I lold at your response to Super asking you what you think of my reads. "Trick question?" So you've alluded, more than once, that I have no reads this game. I pointed out my D1 reads. Why was there no reaction or conclusion after that? | ||
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The Shining
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HtS is a bad vote in my opinion because she can be caught as scum. The scum HtS I played with did end up almost universally towned but she didn't maintain her level of play throughout the game. You could say that game started strong and slightly ebbed for her but she got lost in everything else, and allowed it to happen. Town HtS is the opposite. Starts off okay, or in this case weak, then progressively gets better, while actively trying to solve the game. Until she gets NKd. Until I see a dropoff in analysis, questioning, and active interactions, she is a bad vote. A dropoff will be a clear scumtell. So will maintaining this level of play without being NKd. And now I say goodbye to my shyt tier HtS metaread XD | ||
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You purposely let me see that, start my post on HtS, wait a few minutes THEN say you mean Dis. Yeah I'm not happy lol Well I stand by my last post, though it has no relevance now lol. As for Dis being wrong to vote, I never said that? Where are you getting this from? Afaik my last post regarding Dis had him in a list saying 2 of 4 on said list were scum. And me forgetting him until the last spot on list meant he was my prime suspect, inferring I'm suspicious because he's forgettable. SN: good luck with everything, ritoky | ||
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On May 07 2015 08:42 y0su wrote: Can you point out what about her so far has been weak? Can you start making some reaction or conclusion or read posts? All these one liner questions seeming to lead nowhere are a red flag. Interesting that you'd ask me about that post, when it wasn't who you even wanted to ask about, either. When I said weak, I was referring to the inactivity first half of d1. My progression on her has been pretty clear. Don't lynch for pregame excuse-> still inactive, could plynch-> she's playing like town but past games keep me from strong town read. Now here I am. | ||
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On May 07 2015 08:50 y0su wrote: the late change was not intentional  Still curious what you find weak about HtS's play? to clarify the other question: dis is voting for you. What do you think of his reasoning? Figured it wasn't. Answered your question. Off to dinner. Man, I really dont know on Dis. His filter is in the very near future. Afaik, he's pressure voting me, but the progression so far I find strange. Like he made a post quoting me in which he clearly liked me for town. Then, instead of defending his read, he let it go and sheeped thread sentiment of "could be lurker, deliver on your d2 promises, etc." Making the early vote on me could be pressure, or could be getting on my ML wagon early. Can't really say for certain until I revisit his filter. Also, for all of you saying "shining needs to do more", it's about time to start interacting with me and making conclusions. I'm not letting that wishy washy lynchbait soft push shyt fly anymore. | ||
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On May 07 2015 08:59 y0su wrote: you're not trying to scare me off are you? :D No, I wasn't interested in hts - and i'm not. I'm interested in why you make the read because I don't have a lot from you to go by. + Show Spoiler + It also helps my understanding of the game Would I be correct then in assuming that as a "pressure vote" on you, you approve of the move? Not at all but it's a two way street. You're getting a lot out of this from me, from reads to thought processes, while I'm getting questions and no idea what your thoughts or conclusions are to the answers. You can see the scum motivation there. Ok. Fair point. Lets move on from that, then, unless you have anything else to ask irt HtS? Yes. If it's just pressure. Objectively, I'd probably vote the hell out of myself this game, too. I can't fault for him for it. But I won't town or scum him for it. My read would come from the filter dive, not his pressure on me. His follow up, or lack of one, is what I'm really looking for. | ||
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And I approve of pressure votes on a case by case basis. I approve of his, it's pressure to get me to make good on my promises. But where does he take it from here? See, a pressure vote for my obvious inactivity I can accept. Being scummed for an entrance post, a slip I never made, and my defensiveness over being scummed over a slip I never made like D1 pisses me off. | ||
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So you've been in the thread an hour but no thoughts, reactions, conclusions on my reappearance into the thread? I find my name in your filter a few times. You had trouble reading me your first few posts on me. Has that changed? You had me as black, not green or red in your list post, with a little caveat that you're scum leaning me but would like to see more of me. You clearly say I haven't given you much to work with and ask for D2 reads. They're here now. Thoughts? Questions? Concerns? | ||
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That scumread at least is consistent with your list post but there are 3 scum out there. What is your conclusion on Ritoky? You agree with his logic, but not the conclusion. You are tired of him claiming conf town. But that post literally tells me nothing about how you're reading Ritoky. | ||
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