EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 3 - Page 7
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yamato77
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I don't have any answers. I lied. ##Unvote | ||
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yamato77
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And Then... There Were Six rsoultin I shouldn't really have to explain why I think rso is town, but at this point it's a somewhat necessary exercise to question my own townreads. At 21 pages of filter, rso is the most active player left alive in the game by over double in terms of sheer posting. Ignoring any meta-related questions of activity and ability to post, this is indicative of a level of involvement and interest in the game that is literally unequaled by anyone else. I doubt that ANY mafia player would be so overwhelmingly active and conversational throughout this game. Seeing as no one save Wave himself even questioned her alignment at almost any point in the game, there's no real reason for me to doubt this read whatsoever. Wave's posting did NOT look like scum distancing or bussing, however odd it is that he chose to attack literally the towniest person in the thread. Open and shut, there's no reason to dig through 21 pages to figure out her alignment. No one's going to argue with me about this anyway. Palmar From the most active, to the least active. Before I delve into Palmar's posting or talk about his play this game at any length, I want to talk about how I generally approach reading Palmar. I've seen Palmar play in any number of ways, from claiming scum as town, claiming scum as scum, to pushing a case very hard as town, to pushing a case very hard as mafia. I've seen him fuck off, and I've seen him tryhard and tunnel and ruin an entire day pushing an incorrect read. Simply put, meta reads just aren't very effective on Palmar, at least in the early game. Later in the game, maybe he cares more as town? It's hard to say. This game, Palmar's singular meaningful contribution to the game is his case on Wave. It happened relatively early D1 and was somewhat followed up throughout the game as Palmar continued to come in the thread and call for Wave's lynch. Aside from a short lived push on me for dubious reasons, Palmar's reads this game outside of Wave have been rather shallow. So, the question to answer is, was it a bus? Before Mafia Mini Mafia 2, I would have said absolutely not. What, exactly, is the point of such a play? Why hardbus your teammates all game and play for a much more difficult win if you can avoid it? Now, however, I'm quite unsure. I made the wrong call faced with this question in MMM2 and I'm hesitant to make any sort of associative read this game because of it. On this subject, Palmar says this: On April 30 2015 22:31 Palmar wrote: I have bused teammates and I have been right on day 1. So in the end your approach results in absolutely no fucking conclusion. So... how do you do this? You look at how I did it. Go read my case on WoS, go read my interactions with him and think to yourself "Do I believe Palmar genuinely believes the things he's saying?". Am I being insightful or am I using some shitty generic scumtells to build my case. Am I explaining why I think what I think in a manner that looks like these are genuine thoughts and not fabricated bullshit on a teammate? Go forth and try. You'll probably fail, but it's better to have tried and failed but not to have tried at all. And I'll repeat, before MMM2 I would have been on board with this. But now? I saw Damdred interact with GB and Rit all game long while calling them mafia for genuine-looking reasons that lined up with how I viewed the game, BUT I WAS STILL WRONG. At this point, it's just not good enough. Looking at the rest of Palmar's play this game, you really see how thin his reads are. If Palmar was mafia with Wave, where does Palmar go from here? He hasn't really had any other in-depth read on any other player in the game up to this point, so who is he to push? He has his "case" on me that he questions even himself, and an associative read on Artanis that is based on the same sort of thin logic: "He doesn't agree with me and is bad so he must be mafia" Could Palmar be town? Sure. He could have just been really right on D1 and then basically just stopped playing after that, and is now dealing with that fact. I've been there, on occasion. At this point, though, Palmar looks quite bad. I have yet to re-look at the other three, but we'll get there. For tonight though, this is going to do. | ||
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yamato77
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Tonight, though, I probably will. | ||
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yamato77
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Whatever, I'm done fighting, I don't want to be alive at lylo again anyway. Peace. | ||
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yamato77
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Posting for five days on what was essentially the same game day is taxing. | ||
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