EPTIf you think Yamato is scum, do you really see scum breshke going for the bus in this situation?
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Damdred
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If you think Yamato is scum, do you really see scum breshke going for the bus in this situation? | ||
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Gotta think about that a bit more, and no that's not crazy paranoid. | ||
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On April 26 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote: artie is hard for me to read :/ like...i liked his post about you xP i wouldn't lynch you over yamato but i see a lot of the things he brought up as well. it's sorta a soft defense of yamato? but if yamato is scum i almost feel like it's in artanis' favor to jump on that rather than try to direct the lynch elsewhere i also like how he revisited his truffle read >< and yes i'm aware that this is just me agreeing with what he's saying my problem is i know he has a good scumgame; i've seen him just give up as scum but he came back into today willing to discuss things and reads and i can see his thought progression i kinda feel like it's to scum's advantage to let the thread continue to stagnate, which wasn't the sense i got from him today (or you, for that matter) which is one of the reasons why i'm feeling a bit better about the both of you and a bit worse about truffle A few things really, I felt like today particularly there was a bit more omgus in Artanis for instance in how he dealt with me. Are my reads at that point in the thread substantial? Not really no, are they up to my standards? No not really. But he would rather think i should be the lynch than Yamato? That doesn't necessarily make sense to me in that regard. For instance look at what hes done this day, hes called my case on trfel bad. Which maybe it is, i think that there still might be something there. Voted Palmar unvoted, and then said that I should be the lynch over Yamato. Not sure that there is much reevaluation. Also it is also of note that he didn't get really active for his burst until I pinged him out. Which is interesting. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:04 rsoultin wrote: hmm that may be true i'd have to take another look at when he started talking :/ and his general read progression on the both of y'all there was definitely re-evaluation on truffle, though, that much i'm sure of and i kinda get the vote palmar, unvote thing...isn't it a thing to push palmar to see how he responds to get a read? i thought it was. i know that palmar typically encourages it, and palmar did come out looking more townie for it lol >< anyway give me a bit to look into that Well one thing to understand about Palmar is in this type of situation what does one vote do? Its no where close to picking up steam he is in peoples POE list but does that guarantee hes going to get up and going just because he has 1/5 votes needed its not pressurish at all imo. It could of turned into that if other people hopped on the wagon, but i'm not so sure about it especially. But Art did push off a Yamato lynch I believe when he first started talking about me after my trfel post earlier in this cycle. And then he said i should be the lynch over Yamato because my reads aren't intricate and mostly fluff. But then he neither pushes Palmar for l ynch really or pushes me to an extent, if you think that Yamato shouldnt' be the lynch and either one of Palmar/Damdred should why would you sit back and really do nothing to influence what people think? | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:10 rsoultin wrote: that's a fair point. i thought he was scumreading yamato though? On April 24 2015 22:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I definitely don't want to lynch Yamato today or probably any day. His mafia game is much worse than what he's shown so far and he cares too much. Just an exert then we have this On April 26 2015 03:09 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Meta is great though. Especially when you apply it incorrectly and presume that since Marv once told you that Yamato is absolutely terrible at scum, you figure he can't have 4 pages so far and have pushed some things. Actually a problem I see in his filter is that he's droning on about the same things over and over again. First WoS, then the thing with me on waiting for Palmar/BH to contribute, and then on BH. He doesn't really re-evaluate anything nor does he share many thoughts on other things than whatever he's chasing at the time. Could prob lynch/10. On April 26 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Basically, yes. I think I might want to lynch Damdred over him though. His list post is followed by a bunch of fluff that doesn't really say anything and doesn't have any of the intricate reads Damdred usually has. It's so unrefined and fluffy, and his apologetic tone on "I know it's pretty global" only compounds it. Finally this, i went through Arts filter and there is no Yamato scum read in it. Just things like, I could make better posts but that doesn't make Yamato scum etc., | ||
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This is actually really productive i'm ok keeping it going, unless town jesus rsoultin tells me otherwise | ||
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We are automatically losing 24 hours of information due to the silent nights. If we extend our lynching cycle by 24 hours unless hapa says otherwise we should just add an extra 24 hours to what we would normally do. So we should lynch tomorrow at this time. It extends the game but we get more information in the same amount of cycles I think. | ||
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So, I actually feel kinda good about what i'm saying about Artanis right here, what changed from point A to point B on Yamato necessarily? Just Palmar dropping a decent case that Art doesn't even sheep but pushes me instead. I like that. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote: lol my only real reservation there damdy is that post really wasn't any good or up to your usual standards  the timing is certainly interesting, though >< i take it from your comment that you don't consider artanis to generally be an omgus type of player? Artanis doesn't seem like the type of player to give into omgus. I sort of hesitate to an extent just because I was so meh before the past 4 pages more than likely, however why would you town read me before this cycle when that first sorta list post today had any sort of real reads in it and any thought. So not sure why art would flip so fast just because I pinged him out, its not like i wasn't crappy before that point. | ||
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On April 26 2015 07:30 rsoultin wrote: i'll rephrase; it was decent but not super!damdy like most of us have come to expect the more i talk to you though the more i think you probably are just in a slump. i like where your head's at 3 finals papers 5 16 hour days in a row. 12 hours of sleep in 7 days 5 days so far. Just one shift to go! | ||
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On April 22 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote: but he's actively using it as an excuse to do fuck-all himself. Like, he's waiting on the two players in this game that I would have ZERO expectation to suddenly become active of their own free will. Maybe you don't have the history with BH/Palmar but I do, and Artanis should know better than to passively wait for them to play. I'm fine with the idea of not lynching today, but you can't just sit back and expect the game to come to you. I was rereading Yamatos filter, and I really really like this post. and exchange | ||
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His reaction to who people target is really good I thought at points, his play today has been abysmal though is the only thing that is bad. But I also remember in mini mafia 2 his activity day 2 which was on a weekend/Friday just totally flatlined. really like this post to, it shows a form of thought and insight I wouldn't expect from scum yamato even if its a bit basic On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote: I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel but I also don't like trfel calling me mafia for shit reasons and then sheeping the BH lynch | ||
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You can convince people to vote on the person you want even if you spend 5 posts in a given phase doing so, rather than half heartidly putting shade on people as has been done previously. For example X shouldnt' be the lynch it should be Y. Is all fine and good if its met with any substantial post explaining why exactly that person is scum which doesn't take a substantial amount of time to do. For example you quoted my read on truffle and then quoted his posts but drew no conclussions at all from my post, nor the implications of what that means. This is a major red flag, nor do you give any real explanation on why they should lynch me just that I am full of fluff and my reads aren't as intricate. That is not a good reason o lynch someone | ||
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Also people fall rise or stay neutral, I doubt ita even your posting less that truly has me scumreading you but there is little purpose or real drive when you post and the follow up and wanting to lynch who you want is lacking. And when something does happen feels superficial | ||
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1) Art 2)Yamato 3) breahke then general thoughts | ||
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I really like brwshkes and waves latest postings. I really want both your thoughts about arts postings and my responses and push on him. While I halfheartedly agree with you wave that pulling someone back into a game isn't necessarily only town I don't think I would do it as scum especially someone who is halfway a decent player (which is a bit of an ego thing) I know me personally id just let them rot in purgatory for lynch later. | ||
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Rsoul wave truffle damdred art bresh yamato ? | ||
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 .I actually think Yamato is towny in his filter I did a bit of research on yamatos scum games. He's not really destroying thread here and much more active than his sxum games. He has fallen off considerably this 48 hours and that is a red flag but he did the same thing in mini mafia 2 which just ended. I don't think it 100% clears him but I think his filter is really indicative of a town Yamato at this point. | ||
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