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On April 21 2015 04:21 Bourneq wrote:
Wow trfels reads are so terrible I want to lynch him. But at least he is posting.
##Vote Trfel
Just casting my vote real quick I will be back in a few hours.
If this was supposed to be a Cake vote, where was your reasoning for even voting Cake??
If I'm understanding you correctly, you call Trfel's read terrible and you want to lynch him. But at least he's posting. So random unexplained Cake vote instead?
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Trfel is all over the place. Bourne, Cake, Bourne, Cake. Trfel pls answer Damdred.
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Read my post on Bourne's vote.
Looks more like a random, unexplained vote and that his Trfel sentence was to explain why he wasn't voting Trfel. I guess?
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Cake what is FoS?
Eh I looked at Cake's 3 town games. I still have a really uneasy feeling about him but these posts look like they could've come from any of those games. I'm not really sure I like him going into a scum mindset in order to try and explain his Bourne read, either, but he's been under pressure to produce so I suppose this is better than nothing.
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Wow I don't have the slightest clue what's going on this game anymore. Life became a nightmare and I was without electricity for 2 days. No WiFi, no laptop, no phone, nothing. I'm still town, though, with a bunch of pages to catch up on and a few hours to do so. I'll be in and out while I read up.
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Scott 60 hours? Lol. I mean I'm glad you can math but this is my 2nd post today. You really pushing an "inactive" after I just explained why I haven't been around? And you're pushing on the basis of activity, as if you don't actually only have 6 posts in the last 2 days yourself? 2 of those posts are non committal, nonposts, too. You didn't know what to make of the OWS/One exchange. You checked Onegus meta and nothing conclusive? So 2 posts saying nothing definitive regarding either one, and a request to send our confirmed town out on a meta goose chase, after having analyzed the same player. Noncommittal and should LS say its a scum metaread, he takes the responsibility, not you.
I still don't like your D1 vote, either. The Cake ninja vote was odd. Your scum after were Bourne and Trfel and BM. Two of those also flipped VT. You've apparently abandoned your Bourne read to push me now, which is a bad idea for a town.
##Vote: Scott31337
Let's do this.
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Yeah, i would have done the same. And I just saw your Lei response, too. I think I can buy that.
##Unvote
##Vote: Onegu
On April 24 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
I think my reads are pretty good so far. Liking these newbies. Lei i really like your answer, scott has pretty similar reads to me.
Shining i really dislike how you call out scott for having no srance on onegu/obi but have done absolutely nothing towards that yourself. Your vote is pretty much a throwaway at this point since we should be voting some form of onegu/damd. I still have no idea why nobody is really voting for Damdred. Scott you just said you'd wait on damdred and he did nothing and you voted onegu?
Damdred has fallen apart. I called him mafia he omgus voted for me and didn't even read my post and then just complains about not being motivated and afking waiting to see who he can put a vote on. This is the guy that was voted best up and coming player who regularly makes cases that find scum. He hasn't even gone back and read filters to evaluate if his reads are right or wrong or anything and instead sticks to his poe list despite having loads of other null people and his poe list even contained people he said had good posts (lei)
Ok? I really dislike being told who to vote for right as soon as I entered the thread, as if you're trying to influence my reads and decision, instead of letting me make them on my own. The difference here is i didnt go out of my way to make a post saying i drew no conclusion from it. You want my stance on it now? I dont have the time to make big updated cases and reads. I had Damdred as an early townread. And this disinterest is something I've seen come from town Damdred before. I've had OWS in my light town pile from D1.
So I'm voting to save my town read.
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Student Mafia V, Damdred stopped playing for like a full day phase because of some guilt issues regarding start of the game. And the activity would wane in that game at times, too.
Ehhhhhhhh ##Unvote I really don't think Onegu is scum here but I doubt Damdred would be this resigned as scum. Knowing him personally, I know he takes a certain satisfaction out of playing a good deceptive scum game. This feels too easy.
If you're flipping your read on Scott to scum, let's lynch him instead? He can easily make his ninja vote to save himself as scum and use their argument "I was up for lynch. I just voted counterwagon to save myself"
Whatever call it a wasted vote. I'm not voting for ppl I don't think are scum.
##Vote: Scott31337
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You better be right then. Sigh. I really wish my landlord and electric hadn't screwed me this week, I feel so useless.
##Vote: Damdred
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EBWOP:
##Unvote
##Vote: Damdred
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I fREAKIng knew it. And my vote wouldn't have saved Damdred until Lei voted Onegu AT THE LAST FREAKING MINUTE.
FFFFFFFFF. I don't even know.
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HF, what do you want to look at regarding my EOD? I had Damdred as a town read D1. I explained he could've been unmotivated town, which we now know he was. You kept pushing him and answered my read of him being unmotivated town with a bunch of reasons why he was scum. I believed you and this is what I get for it. And until that very last minute switch by Lei, my vote switching to Onegu would've done nothing. Damdred was still in the lead.
So you're scumming me for sheeping you on Damdred. OK.
And during night, you said you remembered a distinct lack of discussion on Onegu. If you believe that, and Onegu is getting votes today, why are you not discussing him now? Instead, you keep mentioning me and my EoD. If you think I'm scum, you're wrong.
Also, with the LS vig nk and being unCCd, I think it's safe to assume our other blue is a vet, not a doc. Any doc with half of a brain would've protected LS last night unless they were role blocked. Was anyone role blocked here?
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Yeah its called being pissed the fck off for being right on a read and instead letting you convince me otherwise. And stating that even if I wanted to vote to save him(which I did before you started calling my reads stale and flinging crap my way), I couldn't because my vote would've still left Damdred being the lynch. I had no way of knowing Lei would try to save Damdred 2 minutes before EoD.
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Yes balls to say no and vote when it did him and town and Damdred absolutely no good. Lmao hardly reason to be pissed?? I'm town and about to lose in lylo without lynching a single scum for the 2nd game in a row. After believing someone's explanation against why I thought my town read was unmotivated town. Oh I'm sorry, I guess I should be seeing rainbows and doing backflips up and down the thread.
OWS, I'm at a loss right now. Bourne is all but gone and I never really understood where or how he was suddenly excused for his drop in play when I'm under constant scrutiny of the same thing. Onegu is shifty and I do agree with your analysis of him. Leaving his vote open like he did looks pretty bad.
I don't actually like how Lei is being defended by HF, but I think HF is town, if misguided on me. And the Damdred wagon looks bad but I don't think scum rails town Damdred that hard, his scumread and push seemed genuine. I'm more suspicious of Lei disappearing again once he was out of the limelight.
If I had to go off of a team by poe, it would be Onegu, Bourne, Lei.
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Meh. I reread HFs filter. I'm not. I'm not sure of anything outside of my alignment this game. And its frustrating as hell.
My townread on him was due to me feeling his push on Damdred was genuine. And his filter size. But looking at the state of this game, it isn't impossible that scum took advantage of the low activity and has a player driving the thread where they want it to go. I.e.: the easy mislynch in me.
I don't like his early softing of vig. I don't really see the town motivation for that at all whatsoever. Then the white knighting when Bourne questioned him about "which of Leis 5 posts did he like.". Now he's taken a stance on " never voting Lei.". Seems like a really strange read, considering were in lylo and everything should be analyzed and reanalyzed. And he "distinctly remembers" there being no discussion about Onegu leading up to the Damdred lynch. And yet today his posts have been about me. There is still no discussion of Onegu. Seems odd, since he was the one to bring it up and Onegu once again has votes on him. Instead of discussing Onegu, he just votes on the wagon then moves onto me.
Plus the whole bit he did where he "only replaces into town slots.". I hate that so much. Like towning him for that is horrible and posting it in an active game, a newbie game, is just cruel. Its misleading.
So yeah for me on HF, its basically this VS " would scum really be so ballsy to lead a Damdred mislynch like that?"
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##Vote: Onegu
Nice list, HF. So scumteam is me, a guy I've pushed twice this game and the guy I'm voting now. Damn I bus hard as scum, huh? Smh. Still think you're town here, though. And yes that's exactly what I'm saying. If I had seen an opportunity to save my town read VS an attempt to sway me against him, I'm sure I would've voted Onegu instead. But when you swayed me, my options were waste my vote on Onegu and watch Damdred get lynched anyway, or choose to believe your reasons why I should vote him. It was a no-win so I took a chance and believed you.
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HF I didn't say you didn't say anything about Onegu, why are you misrepresenting me? I said you specifically mentioned no discussion of him leading up to EoD, then proceeded to not mention him again and push me instead. Am I wrong? Keep pushing me though, and you're just going to look dumb
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On April 27 2015 06:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +And he "distinctly remembers" there being no discussion about Onegu leading up to the Damdred lynch. And yet today his posts have been about me. There is still no discussion of Onegu. Implies that i haven't discussed onegu at all but complained about it and ignored it. The last 24 hours is literally just me asking to talk about onegu and people just voting onegu instead. You are incredibly guilty of this and keep saying ot over and over again about how i don't discuss onegu today while you sit there on your onegu vote throwing crap at me instead. You never once mentioned anything to do with obi and onegu yesterday. You diverted around the hot topic to talk about how towny damdred was and voting him at the end of the day.
There is still no discussion of Onegu between the time of your post saying no one discussed him and the time of me making that post. And am I wrong? You're still posting and throwing suspicion my way. FCK it I don't even care anymore.
I was gone most of this game due to RL stuff. The state and activity of the game when I came back kept me unmotivated. Helping mislynch my townread was the nail in the coffin. I have not had the time or motivation to make a case. I'm sorry, town.
And looking at it, yeah Obi and Onegu are just town tunneling into eachother, IMO. Thats why no one is really taoking about it. Leaves HF, Lei, Scott, Bourne.
##Unvote
##Vote: Bourneq
And to stop your tunneling of me, I'm the vet. That's why I played how I did D1 and would've kept it up if I hadn't lost power for 2 days. That's why I speculated on setup and asked if anyone was roleblocked. Its why I hinted that we must have a vet cuz doc would've protected LS. We lose on this mislynch and I'm pretty sure both wagons are ML so whatever.
Gl town.
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On April 27 2015 09:47 Onegu wrote:
Shitty thing is Onegu still ded.. its 3v3 with me getting the 3 votes first I have scott, bourne, and shining on me
Lol what?
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Wait. Wait wait wait. Is Lei really not voting? Oh a mafia modkill would make my day omg
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EPT
