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Bad player damdred | ||
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I'm going to try as much as i can. | ||
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Why you gotta be scum again. | ||
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I'd never ml you rs. | ||
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Ff are you going to be sheeplefeast to me today | ||
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On April 26 2015 09:29 Fecalfeast wrote: Damdred your case on xata better be based around posts he made before you announced your case on xata This is what I'm laughing at. | ||
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I thought xata would of laughed. Anyway I like ff though he gets a prelim town read rygarts lack of laughter is disturbing | ||
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As such reads so far, should have a light town read on ff. Xata looks ok as well just from tone and looking at a few things but I might retract that soonish who knows. Besides that meh. | ||
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Do you think xat is scum actually? | ||
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I will punch these mafia into submission. Why not give us your reads ls? | ||
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I dislike breshke, really don't care for his posts at this point. I'll elaborate more on that when I get home tonight. However, LS is town. I really deep strongly about this | ||
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Why are you defending him exactly? | ||
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On April 27 2015 04:29 indignant wrote: He said he would be gone from sunday afternoon/evening on. His last post was a few hours ago which is afternoon/evening in europe - coincidence? I am not defending his play at all but I won't have any part in lynching him when he is afk. Why does it matter if he's afk? That's kind of a really bad excuse not to evaluate and lynch someone if they act scummy. | ||
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I got off almost two hours late give me a bit to filter dive. But some prelim things if anyone wants to converse about. I think Marv is town. Ls is town, xata is town ff is town. | ||
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On April 27 2015 21:13 Xatalos wrote: Hmm.... That'd be quite a meta play. I remember marv saying that it's retarded to bus on D1. XD look at imperial mafia. He bussed ritoky from the very start lol | ||
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Getting to work now should have something concrete in a bit. | ||
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I might not actually put work in at this juncture honestly, when people are BM for no reason towards me I don't have to do jack shit. Anyway, any direct questions ask away | ||
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Hes really smart at mechanics and the like and if he wants to give good thoughts he does. Kind of an enigma at points though | ||
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On April 27 2015 22:41 LightningStrike wrote: I wasn't being bm I was just giving my opinion on something that happened in a past game :O That wasn't towards you XD | ||
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I had to work all day and didn't want to get mod killed. Super scummy vote by damdred like 50 pages behind | ||
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@Xata, LS is a meta read. He loves to bus and hes super lazy as scum. In a nutshell he is a meta machine as town and can just pull shit out from other games to compare and show people how the read should be different. For instance between LS and marv even though it was subtel where Ls showed how he was wrong about breshkes filter I thought it was insanely towny. hes also done it several other times in the thread not really being lazy. I think hes pretty towny still. only on page 5x so anything pressing just ask me | ||
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Any questions please pass them to me | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:25 Breshke wrote: Ill be around later to adress that wagon on me. I think ls reaction to the lynch seems fake. Also damdred the point how he is a meta machine is partly why I am scumreading him, The first thing which he had a problem with me about the TMI thing he did not reference at all yet mentioned it more than once. So your scum reading him for being in his town meta basically? | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:26 Xatalos wrote: He's been kind of lazy here though IMO... Like voting for Breshke without addressing my counter to his main argument for Breshke being scum. And his second argument was Breshke being "pretty meh". I'm not so sure if I would call him lazy at this point. Granted i'm still way behind and don't know what hes done today, but where i'm at now I don't think I would say lazy. Especially since he was following what he thought rather than just sheeping someone else ya? | ||
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I think we were neck and neck as the hammer, especially since HF had a vote stolen | ||
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That is so stupid of koshi. There were host warnings bah | ||
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Its kind of a bore to read honestly i'm in the 60s, getting some decent town reads though. and the vote is interesting | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:55 marvellosity wrote: so I guess if we can establish that yamato is definitely town, we have a mine of information. I actually think its highly likely that Yamato is town, since with the vote steal he would of been lynched if a few people hadn't come back/switched from afk land I believe. | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:58 marvellosity wrote: right, so what's the point on using the vote steal if they're both mafia i guess. hmm. i did read sandro's filter and he announced he was using it. not sure if that changes things at all (wifom) I guess its POSSIBLE that yamato is a goon of some sort and the scum team really wanted sando in the game over yamato perhaps. D1 busses aren't that uncommon. meh | ||
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On April 28 2015 07:59 Damdred wrote: I guess its POSSIBLE that yamato is a goon of some sort and the scum team really wanted sando in the game over yamato perhaps. D1 busses aren't that uncommon. meh But I don't think its worth thinking about tonight, I think its highly unlikely that mafia team wouldn't at least try to lynch a town today really | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:21 Fecalfeast wrote: also if he ninja votes last minute I'm grabbing my shovel and tunneling him oh god, FF when is this happening | ||
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On April 28 2015 08:19 rsoultin wrote: why don't you finish catching up then xP that would make more sense than posting just to post Don't be an ass to me just to be an ass | ||
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No. I am almost completely caught up and i'm asking a legitimate question. | ||
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On April 28 2015 06:53 The Shining wrote: ##Vote: sandroba I saw this and was like "I never sheep shining...I think hes town...SHEEP SHINING and HF. Obviously you scum read sepu but who else though | ||
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Why didn't you think sando was mafia rsoul? | ||
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On April 28 2015 08:43 rsoultin wrote: he was null...null-leaning-scum to me which is clear if you actually read my posts ^^ whereas i was and still am pretty sure sepu is scum furthermore i did vote on sandy so unless y'all think yamato is scum too this whole line of questioning is stupid ^^ Tsk tsk tsk. Don't take that tone with me lady when I just pointed out things that are a legitimate concern with you. Especially with our talkings about how cooperation is key! I'm not against the idea that sepu is scum also. I also think breshke has a shot at it here. | ||
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On April 28 2015 08:53 rsoultin wrote: make it vivax and sepu ^^ that would be fun (lol what legitimate concerns, damdy, me being combative? that used to be how you metaread me until you realized that i can also be a mediator. just stop with the meta you can't meta me -_- so old) I just listed some of my concerns, we have talked pretty extensively about some of the things. Its not meta at all but things you have done in the game, i'm not saying you weren't combative in X game or Y game. I'm saying you are overly antagonistic at points, towards marv for instance. Towards me recently when I asked a question. You have one scum read currently you did go onto a mafia somewhat tamely but you were there. So that's a positive for you. | ||
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Oh well IDC, should care about the game at some point | ||
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Will be around for wuestions | ||
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idk what your problem is this game but yea, | ||
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Anyway moving on I'm going to take a look at some filters and fo from there | ||
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FF is scum. Just read his filter. First thing id like to point out that if you compare this game to his most recent town games, guardians and a few others FF is really lacking the drive and the scum hunting that he has displayed in this game. Especially when you compare the amount of time he spent here he has developed very few scum reads and has barely pushed any at this point besides a policy near eod. Another thing I noticed was that he pushed off of sandeoba early, a bit of associative read granted. He does subtly push against the idea of a sand lynch and look elsewhere especially early to mid in his filter. He sheeps hf at one point onto sand but decides to leave that. Never interacts with sand at any point I believe (granted sand is barely here). Honestly besides being hilarious not much going for him in his filter. | ||
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Vivax FF Sep Breshke as the scum team peoples. | ||
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On April 29 2015 02:58 sicklucker wrote: Now that you got me thinking about it dandred probably votes sandro everytime based on how we know dandred plays mafia I don't think that's how I bus at all. Oh well | ||
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Bats and hi sjokes I suppose | ||
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I wonder.... | ||
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On April 29 2015 07:04 marvellosity wrote: Guaranteed there is a lot more damage from mafia somewhere else, else the game is horribly broken in favour of town. Sadly I didn't take any msg but I dealt some. Kinda interested if more msg Is spread before I think about implications. | ||
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On April 29 2015 07:08 marvellosity wrote: Can't think of the world where I lynch you today, so you can work with me all cycle in beautiful harmony, if you like All these themed games make me confused about revealing what I did sometimes haha, simple damdred. I want to lynch vivax I think. | ||
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You were pretty towny xata might be trying to take you and marv both out Tommorow perhaps | ||
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vivax is a great chance for scum. So is Sep though | ||
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Without looking in detail about it more than likely 2 more were on yamato one at least on sand and one outside both wagons. That's just experience talking without analyzing the voting at this juncture. I also don't understand why SL is town reading FF at this point in the game. | ||
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However that doesn't change the fact that vivax hasn't came and is scum I have a townread on shining for some reason here. I need to resee why bit him dissapearing isn't really alignment idocative unlike what ls says. | ||
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While its true I'm not usually so meh about people being obnoxious Idk, I think RS is town I'll leave that till post game. I liked shinings posts, they seemed free and not really formulaic like his scum game. Seems pretty happy when he posts to. Just wish he hadn't dissapeared like usual. | ||
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I think its drastically different here | ||
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..gj shining | ||
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I thought mafia might have a busser | ||
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I was making a joke | ||
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I'm home now | ||
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That's correct. Can confirm I punched him last night | ||
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On April 30 2015 07:32 rsoultin wrote: lol i didn't say it was a good claim, just better than what he did claim -_- geez y'all are acting like the first thing people think of when they get caught with their pants down is "oh i visit people randomly and do nothing" yeah -_- usually scum have fake claims already prepared by the hosts all they have to do is ask for them though. FF was gone for awhile as well. | ||
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On April 30 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: o.0 really? ... lol okay then disregard i guess o.0 Yea in aperture greymist had fake claims ready for us we just had to give some sort of hey I want this or that or something. I was just to impatient with jat breathing down my neck to wait on mine lol. Anyway, just gotta lynch FF here Put vivax in the fight and go from there. | ||
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On April 30 2015 07:44 Inspector Javert wrote: I can't see a vivax lynch if ff "posted his role PM" and didn't get modkilled. Unlikely we get to that scenario if ff wasn't tracked to the two people in the first place? | ||
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Dont' be idiotic I've dealt damage to vivax, he neds to go into the fight. | ||
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On April 30 2015 06:11 The Shining wrote: Well I'm dead tonight anyway barring some awesome fellow blue intervention so why not? I'm Iimura Mari. Wiki her and it'll explain why I'm a watcher/tracker/visit whoever the person I visit also visits. I can't do it back to back nights. I'd say it's important to keep me alive through N2 until N3 because even if I get KOd at night, the results of my tracking/watching will be reported the next night. O and yeah, I can't fight. | ||
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On April 30 2015 09:21 Inspector Javert wrote: HF already takes 0 damage and we get to deal 5 damage to whoever we want? | ||
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Cancel the fight. | ||
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His filter isn't really that rememerable but here are some key things that I think. At the start of his filter we do have a sorta weird push off of Sandroba and Vivax onto Rsoultin super early on. This is probably the biggest red flag (also pushed off FF) a lot of unflipped association in that part though. but then he has this quote near eod On April 28 2015 06:19 Stutters695 wrote: I'm on Droba unless we can get enough for Vivax, I don't mind either, but I can't lynch yamato after earlier someone said he's afk weekends and he's putting in this effort. And its probably the only thing that makes me pause in calling him scum and pushing him towards town. He could of went with yamato, but decides to either stay on Droba or vivax. Honestly if there is a busser on the wagon I think its possibly stutters at this juncture. I don't think its really worthwhile to lynch him at this juncture but hes a good person to look into later. | ||
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On May 01 2015 04:11 LightningStrike wrote: Day 1 Yamato became confirmed town seeing how we lynched Sandroba and how Vivax tried to push people to Yamato so Vivax became confirmed Mafia from Day 1 voting. You changed from Yamato to Sandroba because you would rather lynch Vivax and knowing Sandroba flipped scum and Vivax is scum too so I can see you (if your mafia) bussingboth Sandroba and Vivax Day 1 for town cred. Now you claim a point of me and JAT yet you said it's a point for JAT and yet not for me? Your contradicting yourself. Your never revisted OWS,FF, and Chez's wasted votes at EoD which seemed to had some interest yet you never revist it? Dont' say the bolded LS. | ||
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Because its not necessarily true | ||
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On May 01 2015 04:39 LightningStrike wrote: What is the chance Yamato is scum and we were on two scum Day 1 based on how the votes went Day 1? its highly likely that hes town because of it, but its not confirmed in the sense you are making it out to be | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:27 LightningStrike wrote: I can steal votes any phase whether Day or Night but they must had voted with me in the previous phase. Is it a one time use power or multiple use power | ||
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It's not that I don't trust you LS, but I doubt that mafia would,have overlapping powers like this. I would suggest we make LS use his power today on me, since the wagon is secured at this point. | ||
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Also he could,be lying about his power good time to confirm while,the lynch I'd on confirmed mafia if he's lying we have a food lynch tommorow | ||
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On May 01 2015 06:47 rsoultin wrote: i promise not to wave my nasty chest bags in your face xP eh, i kinda agree with damdy...i mean...nothing against ls but at what point is this power really gonna be necessary if he's town? This post I will always save...rs agreed with me | ||
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Besides that I think it's likely vivax is mafia | ||
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On May 01 2015 07:31 The Shining wrote: No but why offer up one scumbuddy in place of another? Wouldn't the easier scum play be to push a ml instead? Feels overly risky, especially on D1. It's a distancing technique people use to put wifom into a lynch they flip,before you look guys I was right, you flip they go holy carp mafia want me lynched. | ||
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Acivity wise I,have been lacking I agree though that is a negative | ||
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And I have been lazy this game. Its kind of,hollow | ||
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Where did LS go? I want to see his vote steal work. | ||
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Anyway, foe the fight Tommorow maybe Sep vs javet? | ||
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Actually I still think it's not alignment indicative where his vote was when ff was willing to bus San do for most the day if memory is correct | ||
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We still,have a town th obviously by vivax being rb | ||
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On May 01 2015 08:43 Sepulchre wrote: Don't worry guys, at least Inspector Javert wasn't smart enough to put me into that fight. This sentence bugs me | ||
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On May 01 2015 08:53 Chezinu wrote: If nothing happens, Breshke told the truth. So if the ability works breshke is scum? | ||
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You don't have to announce it? | ||
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IDK why you are making this such a thing when I'm just trying to get the thread to trust you instead of us thinking you are fibing | ||
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SLs confirmed town list is interesting at most... | ||
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Seriously though obi who would you rather be put in the fight/ | ||
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Talk me through some of your other scum reads real fast obi | ||
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On May 01 2015 12:16 Sepulchre wrote: I can go whereever I want to, yes. This sounds like a scummy thing but meh | ||
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its actually highly likely. Didn't he claim a power already | ||
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I highly doubt the whole sandroba wagon was 100% town and I don't see a reason not to town read everyone he is now sooo. Its really likely | ||
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from what I gather, Marv took 7 dmg if three was from this fight leaves 4 unaccounted for. We take it ff delivered 12 dmg to data. You got 12 dmg as well which would look like scum kp. However if we take away from you 9 unaccounted for dmg. So I think its kinda safe to say the fight didn't happen | ||
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Here is what we know: Xata took 12 dmg, Marv took 7 dmg Indignent took 12 dmg Rsoultin took 2 dmg and was RB Vivax took 2 dmg *assumption* and was RB Supposidly Xata and Marv were both put into a amateur fight that deals 3 dmg to there hp. I am assuming that FF dealt damage to Xata through scum factional kp. If the fight happned that would put marv at taking 4 dmg from elsewhere and xata taking 9 dmg from elsewhere. If we work on that, it probably means that scum factional kp is 9 dmg. However that's really really light . I doubt that it would kill anyone in the game even the weaker characters that have flipped it wouldn't take them out, and as such wouldnt' really be a good way to guarantee a flip at all. So i'm working under the assumption that the base dmg that indignant took was actually the factional kp total of 12, and that scum has two factional kills plus other abilities that hit for small amounts of dmg. It makes no sense to me that the fight would happen, nor the reasoning why he chose two people who looked pretty good. Xata looked really towny and Marv looked towny when he was active to my eyes at least. | ||
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On May 02 2015 03:53 Inspector Javert wrote: No I didn't pick you and marv because you were townie or for the lolz. and it's only 3 damage don't be a baby. I still don't understand why you picked them though, your reasoning isn't solid. Why not pick two people that you scum read instead and told the thread what you were doing? | ||
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vote him scum can just run in vote Marv over hf and then kill him during the night. Now go vote hf | ||
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Mostly from reported dmg and he was rb and the rb is accounted for by Scum. Plus he has some form of checks I think | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:49 rsoultin wrote: lol so essentially you're taking his word for it and calling him town for that reason? a bit naive don't you think? I'm disappointed in you right now. But yes his word here is brlievable | ||
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On May 02 2015 07:58 Holyflare wrote: a) he can't be in both fights b) we don't actually know if he dies at all??? c) last sentence plausible Obviously but it tells me something important. Not sure what you mean if he's lying about hp? Yes, it's probably the main thing. Its a bit martyr but he knows he's going in and is trying to help town. | ||
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How did he do 9 dmg to Sep basically when I was responsible for some of it? | ||
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So n1 we have, hf taking 6 dmg from what I'm assuming factional RS taking a rolexheck, and 2 dmg from rb. jat took 2 factionals(?) worth 12 points Xata took 2 factionals(?) worth 12 points Marv took 7 dmg points n2 Marv takes a factional(?) and dies unknown dmg Hf gets hit by stutters for 8 dmg Stutters redirects pgo dmg to sup. sup takes a rb 2 dmg from damdred and 7 dmg from the redirect shining takes 6 dmg factional kp jat takes 6 dmg from factional kp so we have 3 factionals (assumption) accounted for tonight, no additional dmg and a rb. Had 5 day 1 an additional 7 dmg and a rb on rsoul. Kind of a weird drop | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:06 Damdred wrote: Its not that tinfoil. So n1 we have, hf taking 6 dmg from what I'm assuming factional RS taking a rolexheck, and 2 dmg from rb. jat took 2 factionals(?) worth 12 points Xata took 2 factionals(?) worth 12 points Marv took 7 dmg points n2 Marv takes a factional(?) and dies unknown dmg Hf gets hit by stutters for 8 dmg Stutters redirects pgo dmg to sup. sup takes a rb 2 dmg from damdred and 7 dmg from the redirect shining takes 6 dmg factional kp jat takes 6 dmg from factional kp Breshke takes 2 dmg so we have 3 factionals (assumption) accounted for tonight, 2 dmg and a rb. Had 5 day 1 an additional 7 dmg and a rb on rsoul. Kind of a weird drop updated | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote: sooooo we're assuming factional hits for 6hp? what is that assumption based on? Hf hit for 6 dmg n1 jat and shining hit for 6 dmg n2 | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:20 The Shining wrote: 6 factional kp per scum member. 5 scum. 2 flipped before n2 so only 3 members left. Makes sense. unless vivax flips scum and then its a possible 6 member faction with a smaller chance of any third parties. | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:33 Holyflare wrote: vivax is definitely mafia at least 3p vivax could fake some shit Yea this is true | ||
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Besides that its better to get the punching 3p out of town rather than keep him to do dmg | ||
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On May 02 2015 12:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote: In what world does she side with mafia in this game if she's 3p? could be whatever side she masons with first | ||
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So lestrade in apeture would like a word for you or the pooping champ -_-. | ||
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Marv Jean Shining-warcher/tracker can't do back to back Rsoultin-mason cop I think Sep said when he fights someone he receives an alignment check as well? | ||
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On May 02 2015 13:19 rsoultin wrote: ^^ talk about something relevant now -shoos- my ability is pretty damn useless when first town rbs me and then scum starts in on it ^^ (presumably) town never rbd you? | ||
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If we put sup in the main fight he loses 5 hp at least and if we can kill him tonight if we have to if he is in amateurs its a bit more dicey honestly. I'm not sure who I'd put in if we do sup amateurs, its also a decent idea to do batsnacks vs chez as the main event. I also think ls might be a third party but I dislike the thought of scum having two abilities that basically do the same thing so I don't want him in the fights currently imo. | ||
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He has to get in a fight to use his check. He automatically goes to night phase with 12 hp at most. Hoe is that op or different to the extreme? | ||
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He's fighting today or st least entering the fight | ||
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Batsnacks if truthful sets the amateur fight in the night. If one of the people is in the main fight it cancels the amateur fight. As such we don't want vivax in the main fight meh | ||
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considering he's the scummiest thing in the thread. Yes idk the point of this question | ||
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idk what else to say about hf he helped the drive on sandrona and called out ff during the night with me. I guess 3p is possible but no way scum I think | ||
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If he never gets into a fight his ability is never used, at most his hp is 17...when he gets into a main fight it drops to 12 at most. Which is kind of squishy at this moment seeing how much dmg is going out. And 6 dmg instead of 5 isn't really that op. Overall its not THAT unbelievable. | ||
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On May 03 2015 02:08 Chezinu wrote: Holyflare, If I die, you will not get your package tonight. I plan on visiting you even if it means my death. I thought you were vt chez | ||
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On May 03 2015 02:53 The Shining wrote: Not caught up at all. Just found something weird. If Damdred is punching every night, 2 dmg, and these punches are RBs, and he's been claiming/softing town RB, this whole time... How broken is this game? Rygart was Makunoichi Ippo. What was his role?? rygart as Ippo Makunochi Has been Modkilled Welcome to Hajime No Ippo Mafia you are Ippo Makunochi Your HP: 22 Liver Blow: Deal 2 Damage to a player and RB them. Only usable at night. Passive: The first punch you take at night is reduced by 50% rounded down. Passive: You are a member of Kamagawa Gym. You win with Town So we have 2 Town RBs? Discuss. Honestly if you want to bring this up why don't you draw conclussions from it instead of wanting other people to do it. | ||
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How does this narrow it down/ | ||
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On May 03 2015 03:49 The Shining wrote: It's tinfoil. It's just way too unlikely for town to have two punching RB roles. And bussing under the guise of sheeping me, when I had done nothing notable up to that point. Vivax flips scum. You could've told him the plan in qt after Rygart died d1 and that's why he claimed 2 dmg, and blamed it on you. Vivax hasn't done a Damn thing since. Actually neither has Yamato. Ugh my thoughts are everywhere. Let me settle into work and I'll explain where my brain is at better. So damdred yolo vots hammers team mate. Calls out and cases FF during the night. On scum mate vivax here (assumption). That's a bit past bussing even for me. | ||
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Its a true case of hypocrisy honestly, bit that's besides the point. And I bus with a plan, bussing when your whole team is getting rolled by town isn't a good time to bus your entire team and hope you can get 50 mislynched. | ||
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Or hurt obi really bad if you charge sep hrm. | ||
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On May 03 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote: damdred i could look in your filter but were you the one with a 2 dmg night action? yes 2 dmg to vivax n1 2 to Sep n2. | ||
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15-17. Before we had more information about the amateurs fight he said he would die doing both so at most can take 8 hp dmg, the fight will give him 5. So we have at most 3 dmg to do, so if RS could use his herb on me to kill him perhaps or idk. Or I could try to block another kp or something tonight meh | ||
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And you still don't think we could of had two people up for lynch d1 that were mafia | ||
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That doesn't answer my question, stutters was generally being town lean. Sooo what's the mafia motivation to punch hf and then claim it? It doesn't matter if you are unccd something in a closed setup or else ff could of been the pooping champ and we wouldn't of lynched him. | ||
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I'll block someone tonight. | ||
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Its a current Scum read | ||
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LS is a probable third party I think or town I have a few honest problems with him. I'd Yamato flips have to revisit sands wagon for the last Scum or two I guess? | ||
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Me saying have to revisit said wagon if yam flips Scum isn't baseless. | ||
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On May 04 2015 05:28 indignant wrote: You said if yamato is scum the remaining mafia are on sandros wagon. That is a baseless statement. Like saying Jean is likely scum because the wagon can't be pure. Anyways this isn't leading anywhere. That's not what I said and is a misrepresentation to a small degree | ||
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SL I have no clue honestly. Everyone else I,have a moderate reason at least to,town read. There's a tinfoil on someone but it'll get worked out before then I suppose. | ||
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Though I do find it interesting btw that an herb was used on you to heal you and then your up,decayed again and as far as I know only person yo do that. That's interesting | ||
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Anyway IDK how much ff healed you for. But if no one else gets hit by bleed dmg like that it will be more interesting | ||
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On May 04 2015 07:06 rsoultin wrote: kinda and kinda not -_- i took 2 damage, not 3...then no damage the second night there are more rbs floating around apparently Honestly there's just another medic probably we don't know about. | ||
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1) Obi punched Sep for 8 dmg. 2) Sep took 9 msg last night. Supposidly it was redirect plus my rb. Its much more likely that vivax hit Sep for 4(?) So he takes more msg after fight so that's 6 msg, and another attack hits him for three and he passes out at eod. | ||
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On May 04 2015 07:23 rsoultin wrote: random attack is randomized amidst what 17 ppl? you know the probability that viva just happened to knock sep out with that? no that is not much more likely Uhh that's not what I'm saying | ||
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Ok so glad two town rb is out of,the question but 5 ducking cops arent | ||
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On May 04 2015 07:34 rsoultin wrote: pretty sure you're the one saying that, damdy No signings line of thinking is this Scum damdred and Scum,vibax hit and rb Sepu. That leaves rs not roleblocker and claimed it | ||
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N1 Vivax and Rsoultin both claim block. N2 Sepu and rsoultin claim block There is never another rb claim. | ||
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Just lynch me like shining wants | ||
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That's why I instantly ask if anyone else targeted vivax d2 because it looked like my attack hit rsoultin and I was seeing if Scum had a bus driver eight? Just a clever cover | ||
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On May 04 2015 07:57 indignant wrote: And more importantly - if you rbed Vivax n1 - how on earth could he even possibly have rbed rsoultin? This is the 1 million dollar question that I've been waiting on. And no answer I've been bottom of the player list forever. | ||
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D2 put Sep and shining in for 3 msg which would of killed Sep he even admitted as mich | ||
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On May 04 2015 08:08 Damdred wrote: Btw if I get flipped soon, it's possible bats is lying about the amateur fight(?). And it's happening anyway, possible he put ff and jat in to hide the dmg and jat received three at flip. D2 put Sep and shining in for 3 msg which would of killed Sep he even admitted as mich I really like this btw, and it makes the most sense | ||
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On May 04 2015 08:27 indignant wrote: I repeat - the 3 dmg being the amateur fight is unlikely because if we had not decided to cancel the amateur fight today then batsnacks would have been outed. Just like my soul stone in apateur if I was lynched he was out of luck. And honestly didn't bats say it wouldn't be announced? | ||
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Lies about ability Sep states 8 dmg would kill him, Shining takes 3 dmg Sep dies mysteriously. | ||
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Mafia do a lot of things to make claiming things later easier, its not that far fetched and,makes bats claim easier. | ||
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Yamato, bats and IDK are the most likely | ||
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Not really a prophecy but chez at least claimed pro town shrug | ||
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Shining you are so silly... Honestly if scum had more than one rb wed get more than 2 a night. Also its highly likely that scum rb still goes through before town rb. Not sure | ||
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Honestly LS you have less original thoughts this game than i'm used to, you being tunneled aside. No reads and you lack paranoia towards Yamato and several other people that i'm just not used to. Its really weird and offputting | ||
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Bats what did you do | ||
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Just yea | ||
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Did anyone else take dmg/ | ||
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I think I took three dmg | ||
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But anyway, rs had 10 dmg needing to be done so had to use 2 6kp shots on him. Dam takes 3 Shining took 6. Yamato took 2. Is that all the dmg | ||
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At least 2 Scum at most 3. Kinda leaning 2. | ||
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Shining had to take three. Kinda think Scum just have a set amount of msg they can do every night depending on what's alive and divide it however they want meh. | ||
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Damdred Jat Breshke Xata Obi Sl/LS Bats Yamato Chez(?) Is where I'm at now, going to try to reread the game a bit to see anything. Or at least d1. | ||
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Oh well | ||
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You also get caught in meh situations and do so-so decisions so I'm not sure. | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:16 yamato77 wrote: or someone else rb'd I mean, a roleblock is a roleblock unless you lied about who you targeted We would have another rb claim somewhere though. Etc. | ||
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IDK that kinda makes the post sense | ||
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It makes sense but vivax holding rb is a stretch but possible | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:28 LightningStrike wrote: She was roleblocked every night she claimed. And? | ||
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On May 05 2015 12:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Btw Damdred, I think I know what you're talking about in regards to Xatalos being a deep mafia. You were referencing the post where he told yamato to look at way too many people, yes? Yes, that was one of the most mafia posts in the thread lol | ||
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To build on this, what you are saying doesn't really matter as, 1) Rsoultin would eat my roleblock and ate 2 damage that just so happens to be the damage I dealt instead of 3 from vivax. (if this is the case its highly unlikely that a medic would go after vivax in any case so no healing damage). 2) Night two is a bit more of a weird scenario, the only thing that makes any sense was that Rsoultin benefited from some form of healing. Its also interesting that stutters has a redirect ability. Would correlate with him either being mafia or scum having a role like that themselves. It also suggests that Yamato is very likely lazy town in this case. | ||
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LS if there's a jk type role why aren't there anymore rb claims | ||
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he did some of the same things in Slythern mafia. I suppose if I had to characterize his scum game its cleaner than his town game, he doesn't make sense as town and he makes more sense as scum. Its just general things that make me not want to lynch him at this point | ||
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but that's besides the point. | ||
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I don't think that hes necessarily mafia really....but I do think its highly possible hes a third party. Then again that whole jester mess has me scratching my head even more | ||
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Damdred, Indignant, Xatalos are the three people I really won't entertain anything on till much later in the game if we get to that point. Have a decent reason to town read but want them to do more Breshke Don't want to lynch today, Yamato, Sicklurker, Stutters. Think that they could be town, some things make sense as they are town from a meta standpoint. Obiwan. Third Party Land (?) Chezinu, LightningStrike(?) Probable Mafia Batsnacks Hope the Gym works out: HF | ||
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FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin) Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock) Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg Indignant is hit for 12 dmg Marv is hit for 7 Dmg Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block) D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount FF is flipped JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?) Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing. HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims) JAT receives 6 Dmg Breshke receives dmg Shining receives 6 dmg D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker Sepu faints mysteriously Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod N3: HF disappears from game Damdred takes 3 dmg Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?) Shining takes at least 3 dmg Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg This is what my spreadsheet for dmg states have I missed anything just for keeping up with things? | ||
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Early on you have sandro as a scum read/lean and you never mention him again for a good portion of the day. You vote on vivax but almost never interact with him. You also don't really show a real progression on either read and just sort of drop both to vote with both of them on yamato. While its true that you are a smurf and so activity isn't necessarily indicative you are a decent bit less active than you normally are as town. And you haven't tried any of your typical trap plays or really tried to solve the games even in a backsnacks way. Typically i'm used to seeing bats being engaged around lynch time and d1 since that was almost the only lynch I do not see it as much. His ability that he has claimed also doesn't make sense to an extent, for example why does he visit the people he chooses to put in the fight? When shining revealed he caught FF he revealed that he visited Xata, i'm still not sure why he would be visiting necessarily when the fight happens during the day. That's probably not as alignment indicative as I think it is but it is interesting. The three dmg is also interesting to me HF talked about it some as well, could be coincidence but I think its a bit more. Still feels a bit disconnected at points in the filter and in the thread unless you are specifically going after him. Just a few things and poe. | ||
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On May 02 2015 08:03 Breshke wrote: Took 2 damage. Who sent me a present? | ||
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Also the sl ability should be looked at a bit, i'm kinda thinking it has to be town but i'm not sure i'll explain when i'm back | ||
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I've already given an argument, I know your meta better than almost anyone in this game. Even games where you were "lazy" as town makes this look worse. You pressured people had ongoing thoughts and Scum reads etc., you were super lazy in joat and guardians and it looks closer to here thananything | ||
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I'm telling him to use his energy in a more productive way and i'm telling him why i'm not town reading him. Hes just refusing to be useful and martyring everywhere. | ||
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2) People are wrong all the time. 3) Almost everyoens content is meh over the past 2 cycles though. Gotta give me a bit more explanation | ||
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And how is he a new player... | ||
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On May 06 2015 07:41 LightningStrike wrote: His read on me was Omgus while my read on him wasn't. He was coached in Student VII which only people with 4 or less games played can get that why I consider him a new player. His shooting thing on HF was a terrible idea since everyone including scum was townreading him and he was the leader I can see a rookie mafia make that mistake. Lurked the last 144 hours and not interacting with others as much as town should. He has 20 games it looks like to me so not really a newb. It sorta makes sense, its horrible but I understand roughly Lots of people did though... | ||
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So, Chez sent Breshke a troll item the day marv died the brown gloves? Breshke says received an item and chez said he sent one I believe, but he also claims to have visited marv the day he died I believe. That's a bit off to me | ||
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I've been thinking more about it and we have to lynch Yamato. | ||
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FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin) Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock) Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg Indignant is hit for 12 dmg Marv is hit for 7 Dmg Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block) D2: Jat is healed by FF for an unspecified amount FF is flipped JAT takes 3 random dmg at eod N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?) Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing. HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims) JAT receives 6 Dmg Breshke receives dmg Shining receives 6 dmg Marv receives 12 dmg (?) (Marv Dies) D3: Vivax is flipped roleblocker Sepu faints mysteriously Shining takes 3 dmg randomly eod N3: HF disappears from game Damdred takes 3 dmg Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?) Shining takes at least 3 dmg Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg Actually I take back what I said about stutters st this point I just got my spreadsheet and I think it partially clears him. I corrected it and put in the correct Marv dmg. I want to point something out though. N1- 5 Mafia Faction don N2- 4 Mafia Faction done N3- 2 Mafia Faction accounted for The pattern is off. We are either missing a mafia KP or we are missing a third party action. We should lynch Yamato today | ||
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And we have an anti-town kp going somewhere. Its an assumption and jat will probably rail me for it XD | ||
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Well I mean it sort of makes sense with all the small damage that went out last night that that's what happened. | ||
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12. indignant 9. Xatalos 8. Holyflare 6. sicklucker 5. Breshke 4. Stutters695 11. LightningStrike 1.ObiWanShinobi 3. Chezinu 2. Inspector Javert 7. yamato77 This is kinda where i'm at on the towniness scale I suppose I kinda feel ike SL-obi are all up in the air about how I would rate them. | ||
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On May 07 2015 08:29 indignant wrote: Still against batsnacks. Obi is fine. Why are you doubting Breshke all of a sudden? Eh complete lack of prescense in the thread. Nothing really good coming about from him currently. I think LS is still his Scum read? But didn't super charge the fight so that LS would be in danger of sying the next fight or night actions etc. I think its still a decent shot at town bit it's a bit worrying | ||
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On May 07 2015 08:31 indignant wrote: No, I think that's not logical. But whatever he probably is not my #1 target anyways. No it is logical and adds balance to how Scum uses kp especially with pho in the game. And well we have only seen one fight type role flip for scum | ||
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Idk what your problem is its obvious who I want to lynch | ||
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3 Dmg Dissapears after bats can't make fights anymore Bats can use his fake,message to make it seem his amateur fights are real. Its not much of a leap at all to see that we should,lynch bats | ||
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That's interesting, it's not out of the realm of possibility there hrm | ||
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I believe I took 3 | ||
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Damdred-3 dmg Sl- no reported dmg | ||
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Damdred- 3 msg Ls-1 dmg Breshke-0 Sl-0 Hf- less than 4 | ||
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So Jay took 5 presumably 6 | ||
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But if hf says it's not mafia kp it probably isn't as he knows what dmg he took and chez seems to have visited Sl insteaf | ||
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Anyway, ows should have 5 hp left or so. | ||
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On May 08 2015 10:25 Xatalos wrote: I took some amount of damage but I blocked it all (so dunno how much). Silly scum/3P :D Has someone kept track of the different player positions? I'd like to see that pattern as well as if there are other patterns to be seen. I need a number Xata. | ||
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That's annoying I can't be 100% sure that bats kp is missing if hes mafia or an sk type 3rd party. | ||
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Obi Bats Stutters LS We can get two-three of those dead today. Then we have the next group of Xata and Breshke after that we lose, the rest of the game I have a solid reason to not want to lynch them completely. And yea xata you could very well be 3rd party at this juncture | ||
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Also your bio sounds more like a 3p than a good guy just by flavor haha | ||
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either way we shouldn't waste the fight mechanic giving us free lynched to help focus us. If none of the three flip scum or 3p antitown, its not that horrible a scenerio and it lets us focus on other people the next day | ||
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On May 09 2015 08:46 Breshke wrote: Chez are you hard claiming that HF is 3rd party? No he's not | ||
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LS tell me who,Scum is | ||
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I kinda think that someone is lying about damage from n1. N2 We have 4 kp accounted for, n3 we had 2 due to me blocking Yamato, we don't know what I ended up blocking because of xatas counter which I hope he explains more soonish. N1 however I blocked vivax and we still had 5 kp accounted for 2 on xata 2 on hat 1 on hf. The idea I'm using is that we are working against a 5 man mafia team and a antitown SK. We might have other 3rd parties il not sure. n1 suggests if we believe all the dmg suggests either a 6 man scum team or a 5 man scum team and 2 third party big hitters. I kind of think someone lied about dmg meh... | ||
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should of been 4 kp n1 not 5 | ||
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Hf claims 6 dmg Xata claims 12 Jat claims 12 Marv takes 7 RS takes 2 and rb | ||
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Which btw if we assume that shining took a full kp for whatever reason means bats is scum o believe. | ||
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We never lynch obi here he's taken at least 11 dmg will be 16 with this fight. He should be really close to dead if he's lying or he's dead. If he doesn't we can make him fight again tomorrow and lynch the other scummy person. We should use the fights to our advantages rather than wasteong the. | ||
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On May 10 2015 01:31 Holyflare wrote: Then who do you want to lynch that isn't damdred then because if 2 mafia kp's have probably gone off damdred isn't mafia and you'd actually be wasting that lynch what was the number hf. Also I've been pretty clear with who I want to lynch today | ||
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It makes sense to me and a few other people | ||
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Welcome to Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal. You are Abathur, Servant of Kerrigan's swarm and underpowered hero in Heroes of the Storm. You start the game with 6 evolutions that other people may use; these evolutions are treated as items. You may not use or activate any of these evolutions unless they have been given away at least once already; you may not pass these items to mafia players unless you have received them back. These evolutions are actions and may not be used in addtion to other actions during the same phase. You may give a player an evolution once per night phase. They will recieve the item with the daypost. Chameleon skin: During the day phase, the bearer of this item may activate this item to prevent the player lynched during this phase from flipping. Lurker Spikes: During the day phase, the bearer of this item may post ##Shoot PLAYERNAME; it has 1 bullet. That player will be targeted with 0 KP. Whoever is given this item will be told that it will hit with 1 KP. Soul fragment: During the day phase, the bearer of this item may consume this item to increase his voting power by 1. Whoever is given this fragment is not told that this decreases your voting power (if you are alive) by 1 for that day. Ultralisk plating: This item passively protects the bearer from 1 KP (as a bulletproof vest). If a player would die even with the use of this vest, then the vest is not used and instead is passed on to one of the killers at random. Overseer Tentacle: During the night phase, the bearer of this item may consume it to target a player. The bearer is told each and every player that visits his target during the night phase. Evolution Pool: During the night phase, the bearer of this item may target a player. The bearer will copy one of their target's powers (at random) and gain it as a permanent ability. You win with mafia. "Spin sequences. Good." ok hf | ||
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Either way it doesn't matter what I read sl or why, honestly hes just a big block of null has positives and negatives. | ||
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I'll see everyone after deadline/ next day phase. | ||
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Can't give anyone a straight answer this game, its whatever. you can call me obnoxious if you want but you were being an ass to me. | ||
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Xata takes ? dmg Jat takes 6 dmg presumably Damdred takes 3 dmg LS taks 1 dmg Bats takes 3 dmg (1+my rb and 2 dmg for whatever reason) Honestly we just shouldn't lynch obi, we should let the fight mechanic kill him. I can get off killing batsnacks but i'll fight every step of the way killing obi like this. | ||
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I'd be ok with Chez or stutters. | ||
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after lynch 6 v 3 (if all are town) 4 v 3 (if ls and JAt die and nobody else does) lylo We have a double lynch to give if theres three scum and none of these three are scum. | ||
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Its kind of a weird feeling I have. | ||
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Does anyone have the player list from when HF went missing from the game. | ||
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It starts with shinings Role [spoilers] Passive: you are girl and if picked to fight the fight is canceled. (This refers to the fight promoter day fights.) At night move your self to anywhere in the player list. You will spend the night interviewing that person. You will stay with them the entire time. You will track and watch them. But you will also be counted to visit each player they visit also. May not be used on consecutive nights. If you are KO'd during the night you saved your notes on your phone. Your phone will be found the next night and turned into the police. They will announce your results in the end of night post. The bolded I think is really important in the spoilers to my idea at this juncture. We obviously didn't get shinings check I originally thought after skimming shinings role that we probably wouldn't get his notes just because of his placement in the player list. But something is bugging me about it Shining would of moved himself to the bottom of the list during the night so that his check went through no matter what. This is a leap but also the second part is interesting as his notes would be saved on his phone even if hes ko'd is interesting. What do we know though? Shining was really clear to the thread that #1) he was a girl and he couldn't fight and secondly he was clear with his hp loss. 6 night 3 day and he would only have three left. This could be seen as a wifom attempt but since we already had a girl flip it was pretty safe to assume he had 12 hp. Now heres where we get into the heart of my theory, we have a missing kp from that day i'm assuming before this that Shining just took a full 6 kp. However when i'm looking at dmg I see that we are missing more than 1 6kp we are missing a 1 dmg as well. This is a bit dangerous to think and I might get some criticsm. Yamato was an obvious RB target, or an obvious target for anyone. Bus drive Yamato onto shining my rb hits him so he can't move on player list or interview anyone and save the notes and put the missing 1 dmg on him that we see hit bats today and LS. So what does this mean (this is why the playerslist is important) we know that HF is below chez so he could do whatever his action is before Chez sent him his actions. I'm theorizing that the missing KP was to be put on HF and shining caught my rb and 1 dmg. That means more than likely if my theory holds any weight which I can't prove one scum has to be above Chez in the player list (I think yamato was under him). That's a lot of assumptions but it was kind of fun to think about and write out. | ||
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We will find out more in flips though, kinda sad town played basically perfectly up to this point and could be potentially be in mylo/lylo after one mislynch due to modkills etc. | ||
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On May 10 2015 06:37 indignant wrote: Why did you change your mind about the lynch? And why do you think those guys will flip town? Regarding my abilities: I sent ramen to SL night 1 because he was the only one besides HF (claimed PGO) I knew was part of the gym. Ate ramen myself night 2 and went from 1 HP back to 5. Sent ramen to rsoultin night 3 but she died. Sent ramen to SL night 4. Nurse gf activated last night when I had 5 HP so I must have taken 5 or more damage. I reported all other damage. We probably don't win today. I expect all remaining townies to at least put in effort to solve this shit tomorrow. Like Stutters IF you are town get off your lazy ass. Same to SL and Breshke to some extent. And also Chezinu. Keep it mind that the day1 lynch means much less now that we know that both main wagons were mafia and it was almost certain that one of them would be lynched. Do not rule anyone out for pushing/voting a mafia that day. Be careful with the fights because they might favor mafia/3p from now on. I would be really pissed if we lose this game. LS posts when we interacted yesterday felt really really honest, it showed a real depth of reading that I felt like came from his town game and not his scum game. Way to much effort when hes going to die anyway at that point and he knows it more than likely. and usually when ls puts in that much time hes right on his meta reads which is sa point for stutters. But him hitting HF when he did and claiming it instantly doesn't really read like a mafia/3p thing as he was trying to get information into the thread really. And its the right play to lynch obi I think, its a hunch honestly. And some thing sjust make me think that my theory is right and my block would partially prove that bats is town at this point. | ||
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On May 10 2015 06:36 Damdred wrote: I could kinda see HF being 3rd party here, sorta. Like he could of attacked xata then claimed the damage came from mafia or something. IDK though its a weird game. We will find out more in flips though, kinda sad town played basically perfectly up to this point and could be potentially be in mylo/lylo after one mislynch due to modkills etc. Before hf starts laughing this is just super hypothetical and not likely but yea | ||
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I honestly think Breshke is town Chez is IDK, I'm Town I think LS is town Stuters is probable town SL is idk, maybe town Xatalos isn't scum, but could be 3rd party HF isn't scum, could be the third party it is kinda hard | ||
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Breshke did you have to make the decision to use all that befor a certain point? did ls not make you second guess yourself/ | ||
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2. Chezinu 3. Breshke 4. sicklucker 5. Holyflare 6. Xatalos 7.Damdred Just for reference how the playrs list should look tonight. | ||
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Ok then that clears HF from attacking you. | ||
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if we have 1 scum 1 third it looks like this 5 v 2 4 v 2 (afte rnight if someone dies) mylo If its 2 scum 1 third 4 v 3 We basically are at the point where town can't win unless third party decides to screw mafia. | ||
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I like to think that I can't be scum either, could be 3p technically but not scum. | ||
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Curious, hrm... | ||
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On May 10 2015 14:48 sicklucker wrote: why cant xatolos be scum? why have scum left him at -12 hp when they can finish him? xatalos has a counter ability he activated that reflects dmg back if he's attacked. Also shining tracked scum kp to him. So can't be mafia but could be 3rd | ||
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I think he's scum in this scenario. | ||
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My name is Alexander something I,can't copy paste atm I liver blow people and block them. I'm a Russian hehe | ||
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However yea dmg doesn't lie | ||
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FF is tracked to Xatalos and Rsoultin (rolecheck possible on Rsoultin) Rsoultin is hit for 2 dmg and Roleblocked (Matches up to my ability and not Vivax roleblock) Xatalos is hit for 12 Dmg Indignant is hit for 12 dmg Marv is hit for 7 Dmg Vivax claims 2 dmg and roleblocked (Damdred claims this block) Night one this is the damage that we have going out. HF takes 1 kp, Xatalos and JAT both take 2 kps. That's 5 kps total at that point. The rub here is if Marv took a kp or not, i'm actually going to go with he did not take a factional. We are missing the random 1 damages and the random 2/3 damages from this night. Its just a theory but marv possibly took all of the small abilities that we are missing on this night. or they have a vig type role which is possible. Right now the scum team is down sandroba and we have an unknown amount of 3p currently. Day 2 brings us to a bit more light, I did not role block scum FF is dead so they have one less kp to give out and we end up with this. N2: Rsoultin Is Roleblocked and takes 0 dmg (?) Sepu takes 2 dmg and Roleblock (Damdred claims dmg) Stutters redirects dmg from HF PGO to Sepu for 6-7 (?) HF claims dmg is missing. HF takes 8 dmg (Stutters claims) JAT receives 6 Dmg Breshke receives 2 dmg Shining receives 6 dmg Marv receives 12 dmg (?) (Marv Dies) We see that Sepus dmg came from myself and stutters (?) (I would like hf to explain again why he thinks sepu is missing dmg here again if he doesn't mind) HF takes damage from town Jat Receives a scum/3p kp Shining receives a scum/3p KP Marv receives at least 12 dmg or 2 scum kp/3p shots. and we have other random dmg going out This leaves us at 4 kp for the night after FF died and I didn't rb scum. So n1 I rb scum they had 5 kp n2 I rb town they had 4 after ff dies. Vivax is lynched the next day brining it down to what should of been 3 kp N3: HF disappears from game Damdred takes 3 dmg Rsoultin takes at least 10 dmg (?) Shining takes at least 3 dmg Lightninstrike takes 1 dmg Yamato Roleblocked and takes 2 dmg And this is where we are at. There should be 3 kp and I rb Yamato. I am under yamato so I should of been able to stop him as I act first on the playerlist. We know what hp shining had we 100% know he said it in thread. But we are missing a kp Rsoultin probably took 2 kps here as he had a weird amount of hp left and scum I think knew how much hp by rolechecking him. So the most obvious answer is that yamato actually kills shining with a kp instead of them just putting 3 dmg on him (?) This is speculation but it would follow the pattern of only 3 kp going out. If we assume I can block factionals then n2 looks kinda weird and they put 3 kp on Marv and we are dealing with ( or 25 hp worth of damage) and we have 2 scum and one third party left. | ||
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I'm still leaning batsnacks maybe Xatalos and breshke | ||
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I think Xata could be 3p but obviously hes not scum. I could see maybe killing Breshke here instead of bats btw, I really like the case. | ||
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I could possibly believe this | ||
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That's really weird then | ||
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I didn't see a limitation when the herb had to be used also, so...might be why I didn't see extra dmg on the punches? Though bats saw an extra dmg on my punch idk he might of just got an extra dmg for whatever reason | ||
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On April 30 2015 09:43 Breshke wrote: Okay lucky i can change my thing. So i assume from HFs reaction him taking any amount of damage is bad so i should swap shining in and take hf out. To be devils advocate, if shining is lieing fight will still happen hence leaving marv in and taking hf out. Also it could be very possible my ability will fail if shining can not fight and then the marv and hf fight would happen. On April 30 2015 10:27 Breshke wrote: Can marv and HF both answer if they think they will outright die if they are in the fight. This feels like an easy way to make the decision These posts give me the willies, that last post I have quoted especially. | ||
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its probable you were checked but we don't know. Also we have 5 cops and no godfather type role? that is really unlikely | ||
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IDK how you can say I'm lacking effort. Which btw where are all the rbs from scum of I'm scum? Answer that | ||
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And tommorow have to decide between chez and xatalos I think. | ||
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breshke as the scum Like I said before if I'm scum where are all the extra role locks that are missing. Breshke seems to have lied about the herb he used. Trying to wifom a green check on himself. We have two trainers btw would make sense for one scum maybe | ||
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if you think both are town why not just swap the towniest one out. Obviously hf would be the one mafia wants dead the most so why even bother asking | ||
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Gg if I do die take it home from here I was town | ||
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To ant 3p who wins solo, hit mafia tonight or you will lose. | ||
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Vote me for promoter. No fight Tommorow just normal,Scum hunting | ||
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The night I took 12 dmg he did say he was going to visit me that night to. IDK if that's important. Xata probably is 3p. Breshke is probably sleeper mafia | ||
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Thing is most powers that we have seen only have two uses overall. So kinda weird xata has three. I think some of his responses have been meh | ||
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But I made it | ||
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anyway ty for the game oneg. I disagree with some things but I won't be bm, really disappointed people just wouldn't vote meh | ||
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I think the people are stupid for not voting before they leave/go to work. I'm not sure if I would of mod killed for the 2nd vote every cycle but yea. It was game altering tbh. | ||
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