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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:05 GMT
#1150
On April 28 2015 01:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 01:54 Holyflare wrote:
merit to him, as in i can see breshke thinking that from his point of view, not to do with ls' alignment


I guess I can see that... But you don't agree with Breshke?


i don't disagree about what he's said and i can see him thinking that it makes ls scum (dodging questions etc, not showing the meta) but i don't agree that it makes ls scum since i have other things that make me think he's town + i've seen him not provide the games for his meta before and the ignoring thing could just be missing out on the questions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:06 GMT
#1153
what does that even meaaaaaaaaaaaaan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:08 GMT
#1156
that's not why i town read him at all you tool
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:10 GMT
#1161
so now that you're confirmed not even reading the thread koshi, are you ever going to actually participate and not be a total shit all over again?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:11 GMT
#1162
because it sure would be nice to not have to just be randomly antagonised by you all game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#1165
he says the list post is too clean but i don't think he scum reads any of my scum reads at all and in fact scum reads my town reads
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:17 GMT
#1169
when have i ever made a list for people to sheep anything i write on it? i can perfectly explain each and every single one of them in depth if needs be
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:19 GMT
#1172
On April 28 2015 02:17 Holyflare wrote:
when have i ever made a list for people to sheep anything i write on it? i can perfectly explain each and every single one of them in depth if needs be

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:22 GMT
#1175
and actually slam is the one that got cut off when i rewrote the list hence the , was meant to say

"rygart - seems not so caught up in being all serious, got rid of his smurf indentity quickly, random interjections with pictures and nonsense (maybe down, look at later)"
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#1176
<insert new koshi adapted bull shit here>
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:28 GMT
#1179
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.

Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:29 GMT
#1180
Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:32 GMT
#1185
It makes perfect sense because all i've done is point out what I think and 2 people have attacked me for it (you and vivax) one of them attacks it for being something i don't do (i do it all the time) and the other one says it's too clean and doesn't make any sense (and it does to me, hence why i can explain each and every single one of my reads)

so instead of doing what xatalos (hey look, guess where he was on my list) is doing and asking me about those reads and trying to get to the bottom of it, you instantly tried to shit all over the post and call me mafia, which is what you've done to the majority of peoples posts this game and probably makes you mafia because none of what you say actually corresponds to what is happening in the game at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:50 GMT
#1197
On April 28 2015 02:31 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny

A little more detail on LS would be appreciated.


Uhhhh this one might have a spattering of ongoing game in it. There's several factors really, one of them is Palmar's read on LS in (forget which game but we talk about it in the podcast) where he talks about how innocent/honest ls is when responding to things when he's town and how it's not like that as mafia. He'll take many things at face value which I've seen multiple times this game:

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 27 2015 10:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:
ah damn that must be my problem :/

oh well

##vote: rsoultin

i give up!

Why give up

On April 27 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
awww making me actually do things :/

such mean, ineffective lodestones y'all are. why doesn't an rsoul get to be lazy when everyone else does it all the time? ;o;

hypocrites!

lol ^^ i gueeeeessss i'll actually read the thread tch

When you catch can you give me your reads and thoughts please? <3


nope ^^ gonna keep them all to myself and laugh at you scrubs

have you scumread me yet for not playing? if not...

scum!ls

woooooot! first scum

maybe?

+ Show Spoiler +
has he? xP

No I haven't scumread you because there was others who didn't post yet or were inactive.


>> but i'm special

at least i was in aperture

i'm not special to you anymore, ls? ;o; your words, they wound

We already talked about this on skype ofc I still <3 you and you know should know why I wasn't scumreading you this time >.>

On April 27 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:
lolol

yeah i'm such a prude xP

(actually i don't know why you weren't this game lol ><)

but hey if you don't try to lynch me i'll give you virtual cookies!

Because you complained to me post game of Aperture about it.


lol >< yes, i thought it was dumb that you thought i should be posting while we were playing voice mafia and that the fact that i didn't meant i was scum

here i've just not given a shit for a full 24 hours xP

I didn't want to fight you again so early again :O

On April 27 2015 10:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:46 Holyflare wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
but it's a fighting game!

put em up! -bounces around, throwing practice punches-

seriously, ls, why not fight me? what if i'm...

>>

<<

SCUM!

-gaspshetotesjustsaidthat-


"Gasps he totes just said that"

Rsoul reconfirmed old man.

She not a old man I met her irl already :O + Show Spoiler +
We went to Six Flags while she was in my area




There's quite a lot of instances of the above in the rest of his filter, he's also wary of calling rsoultin mafia and he's more concerned with giving her space early to get a read on her than calling her mafia because it made her angry last game (this is adorable btw)

Then you take my read on him into account, I semi-read him based on how many excuses he posts in a game to try and avoid contributing and stuff.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike&view=all

read that and just count how many there are, it's like 10,000 a page or something, he's scared to post as mafia and I just haven't seen that here, if you're going to say "meta meta meta" then yeh, that's just the forefront of my read, when you get into the actual content in this game it's quite lackluster but it's ls and i don't expect anything different (sorry dude), there's little posts that make me think it's quite towny though because he totally says things that i'm thinking:

On April 27 2015 21:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Woke up and Breshke is voting for me :O Also I know Breshke can make better posts than he did earlier because I had played with him around 6 times and was able to catch him when he was Mafia once of the 3 times he was scum (Metal Mini, NYE Party(I shot him as Vig) and Titanic before he got replaced by Damdred) but the fact that he got his own original idea on my own alignment although wrong making me double guessing his alignment.
@Xata and Breshke: Maybe talk to Damdred about me because he can read my alignment really good :O
@rsoultin Are you here? I would like to speak to you!



things like the above that are just too congruent with the things that i write on my list, it's pretty encouraging.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:52 GMT
#1198
On April 28 2015 02:41 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny

This is mafia taunting town btw.


in 24-48 hours i will prove that koshi is mafia for this post
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:53 GMT
#1200
On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.

Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit.

What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town?
stupiest thing I read in a long time.

Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy.
This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town.


^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet?


i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:56 GMT
#1202
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?page=19#369

slam thing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:56 GMT
#1204
On April 28 2015 02:54 rsoultin wrote:
lol hf >< i find it hard to believe you don't think koshi can post that as town xP


i'll tell you in 48 hours why he wouldn't
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:57 GMT
#1206
On April 28 2015 02:56 indignant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:50 Holyflare wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:31 indignant wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
Any more you want explained koshi? I can do this all day and all you're doing is making me look more towny

A little more detail on LS would be appreciated.


Uhhhh this one might have a spattering of ongoing game in it. There's several factors really, one of them is Palmar's read on LS in (forget which game but we talk about it in the podcast) where he talks about how innocent/honest ls is when responding to things when he's town and how it's not like that as mafia. He'll take many things at face value which I've seen multiple times this game:

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 27 2015 10:32 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:
ah damn that must be my problem :/

oh well

##vote: rsoultin

i give up!

Why give up

On April 27 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:31 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:07 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:02 rsoultin wrote:
awww making me actually do things :/

such mean, ineffective lodestones y'all are. why doesn't an rsoul get to be lazy when everyone else does it all the time? ;o;

hypocrites!

lol ^^ i gueeeeessss i'll actually read the thread tch

When you catch can you give me your reads and thoughts please? <3


nope ^^ gonna keep them all to myself and laugh at you scrubs

have you scumread me yet for not playing? if not...

scum!ls

woooooot! first scum

maybe?

+ Show Spoiler +
has he? xP

No I haven't scumread you because there was others who didn't post yet or were inactive.


>> but i'm special

at least i was in aperture

i'm not special to you anymore, ls? ;o; your words, they wound

We already talked about this on skype ofc I still <3 you and you know should know why I wasn't scumreading you this time >.>

On April 27 2015 10:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:37 LightningStrike wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:36 rsoultin wrote:
lolol

yeah i'm such a prude xP

(actually i don't know why you weren't this game lol ><)

but hey if you don't try to lynch me i'll give you virtual cookies!

Because you complained to me post game of Aperture about it.


lol >< yes, i thought it was dumb that you thought i should be posting while we were playing voice mafia and that the fact that i didn't meant i was scum

here i've just not given a shit for a full 24 hours xP

I didn't want to fight you again so early again :O

On April 27 2015 10:48 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 10:46 Holyflare wrote:
On April 27 2015 10:45 rsoultin wrote:
but it's a fighting game!

put em up! -bounces around, throwing practice punches-

seriously, ls, why not fight me? what if i'm...

>>

<<

SCUM!

-gaspshetotesjustsaidthat-


"Gasps he totes just said that"

Rsoul reconfirmed old man.

She not a old man I met her irl already :O + Show Spoiler +
We went to Six Flags while she was in my area




There's quite a lot of instances of the above in the rest of his filter, he's also wary of calling rsoultin mafia and he's more concerned with giving her space early to get a read on her than calling her mafia because it made her angry last game (this is adorable btw)

Then you take my read on him into account, I semi-read him based on how many excuses he posts in a game to try and avoid contributing and stuff.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/480042-tl-mafia-lxx-guardians-of-the-galaxy?user=LightningStrike&view=all

read that and just count how many there are, it's like 10,000 a page or something, he's scared to post as mafia and I just haven't seen that here, if you're going to say "meta meta meta" then yeh, that's just the forefront of my read, when you get into the actual content in this game it's quite lackluster but it's ls and i don't expect anything different (sorry dude), there's little posts that make me think it's quite towny though because he totally says things that i'm thinking:

On April 27 2015 21:44 LightningStrike wrote:
Woke up and Breshke is voting for me :O Also I know Breshke can make better posts than he did earlier because I had played with him around 6 times and was able to catch him when he was Mafia once of the 3 times he was scum (Metal Mini, NYE Party(I shot him as Vig) and Titanic before he got replaced by Damdred) but the fact that he got his own original idea on my own alignment although wrong making me double guessing his alignment.
@Xata and Breshke: Maybe talk to Damdred about me because he can read my alignment really good :O
@rsoultin Are you here? I would like to speak to you!



things like the above that are just too congruent with the things that i write on my list, it's pretty encouraging.

I personally think that the first part of your post (the honesty thing) is a pretty risky/questionable read. I have no idea why you think scum LS would not be as innocent/honest as a person as town LS.
Dunno how legit your excuse read is though.


well it's not exactly the driving force behind it, the combination has worked so far though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 27 2015 17:58 GMT
#1207
On April 28 2015 02:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2015 02:53 Holyflare wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:47 rsoultin wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:37 Koshi wrote:
On April 28 2015 02:28 Holyflare wrote:
Jean is in the "maybe town" category because when he did post it was fully articulated and although it came to no conclusion he was well aware that him making that post would end up with him being scum read and he pre-emptively stated it before he made the post. I'm pretty sure i've actually elaborated on that read in this game so far so it's not exactly rocket science. I don't even mind his conclusions because they are technically the correct ones (sandroba so far is scummy but wait and see because maybe he might not be etc). I don't think he's that scummy at all so he's most definitely in the correct place.

Slam is not like you're saying at all. Ever since guardians he's tried to adapt his play style to be a more serious one and actually play the game so when he's actually posted stuff that wasn't serious but was kind of serious it makes it look like rather than trying to blend and act all super towny he was still being care free and having some fun in the game without the need to delve into complete nonsensical posting like he used to.

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't make me mafia it just makes you shit.

What Jean did doesn't make him town. If he truly believed in his sandroba read he would feel guilty. I don't even know what you are talking about btw. It just reads like Jean felt guilty and said it and you say because he said he felt guilty he is actually town?
stupiest thing I read in a long time.

Your version of the Slam meta is terrible. Slam is hard to read. But your new Slam meta is contrived and completely wrong. The old Slam meta is way better: Slam not being happy = Slam mafia. Slam being obvious town = Slam town. Slam being absolutely null but active = Slam is null. You read the null Slam depending if he wants to kill himself for the town when he gets under pressure. Easy.
This Slam is way more likely mafia. Maybe he isn't. But you don't fucking know he is top town.


^ i do agree with koshi on your slam read hf lol >< pure speculation. last games he was in were guardians (wanting to be serious to break meta) and aperture (just giddy with his cool role xP) not sure how you arrive at "new meta" based on...guesswork that hasn't happened yet?


i based it off of guardians and what people were saying in guardians about his play in omgus where he started to play a serious meta instead, are you saying this was not the case? he doesn't seem serious to me at all this game


lol i'm saying it's a bad read hf

like i could make up shit based on his guardians play, too!

devil's advocate time:
but clearly he was so frustrated with the reactions at his attempt to be serious in guardians that he might very well give up on trying to play serious...he certainly wasn't playing serious in aperture



well i assumed that he smurfed in an attempt to try and play differently and the seriousness doesn't even make a difference because i'm quite literally telling you he's not being that serious -.-
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