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On March 30 2015 07:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:17 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:16 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2015 07:15 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:14 Onegu wrote:On March 30 2015 07:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:11 Onegu wrote:
I need votes get on it people. Promise to confirm myself town by D2, with cleric powers combined with my role Onegu, you're not getting elected today. Talk about things that matter. Why not? Because you lack votes and I need VE to beat other ppl No you don't. You are just voting him because BH is voting him. no, he also noticed me Which is towny why exactly?
Because he is considering everyone, and because
How do you know what mechanics may impact my voting decisions, hmmm?
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On March 30 2015 07:19 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:15 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:14 Onegu wrote:On March 30 2015 07:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:11 Onegu wrote:
I need votes get on it people. Promise to confirm myself town by D2, with cleric powers combined with my role Onegu, you're not getting elected today. Talk about things that matter. Why not? Because you lack votes and I need VE to beat other ppl Why? look who VE is voting...
he can't vote himself.
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On March 30 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
i will lynch sicklucker for either being mafia or 3p with a good chance of being mafia for having 3 pages of filter because i'd feel like as 3p he's be just as productive as town
it also allows all these "coin flip" ppl to talk more
Heck if you could beat Rsoul I'm down for this, but
you would have already beaten rsoul, so...
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On March 30 2015 07:21 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:20 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:18 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2015 07:17 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:16 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2015 07:15 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:14 Onegu wrote:On March 30 2015 07:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:11 Onegu wrote:
I need votes get on it people. Promise to confirm myself town by D2, with cleric powers combined with my role Onegu, you're not getting elected today. Talk about things that matter. Why not? Because you lack votes and I need VE to beat other ppl No you don't. You are just voting him because BH is voting him. no, he also noticed me Which is towny why exactly? Because he is considering everyone, and because How do you know what mechanics may impact my voting decisions, hmmm? I obviously don't. What I see so far is you voting VE who isn't very towny for our adventuring party and as far as I understand your reason for this is that BH who also isn't very towny did so too.
which, understandably, doesn't look townie.
Yet, who knows how it will look soon? PM me @ night, I think I trust you.
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On March 30 2015 07:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:22 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:19 Holyflare wrote:
i will lynch sicklucker for either being mafia or 3p with a good chance of being mafia for having 3 pages of filter because i'd feel like as 3p he's be just as productive as town
it also allows all these "coin flip" ppl to talk more Heck if you could beat Rsoul I'm down for this, but you would have already beaten rsoul, so... ? Why does this matter?
That is mostly a statement of support with a disclaimer of intent.
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On March 30 2015 07:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly all of my warrior candidates have the exact same targets, so I don't care who gets it.
this should be scary
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On March 30 2015 07:25 kitaman27 wrote:HogwartsShow nested quote +On October 20 2013 07:25 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah not having read the thread at all I think I can comfortably vote mocsta unless he's also an innocent townie somehow
##vote mocsta Show nested quote +On October 20 2013 15:09 Blazinghand wrote:
man that would require having read the thread. it's like my birthday a couple days ago and today I like went and hung out with my dad. I don't even know who's like in my house or who got shot or who even signed up for this game, i literally have not read thread. YumaShow nested quote +On May 16 2014 09:41 Blazinghand wrote:
Sorry I'm actually like at dinner but after dinner I'll read. I don't see any reason to read things other than the filters of the other 2 mccains though since the last scum must be amongst us Show nested quote +On May 16 2014 14:33 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah same here. I might as well vote for posterity sake
##vote dicksmashcockguy Show nested quote +On May 17 2014 06:22 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah i haven't read anything thrawn cause the game is solved, I don't see why I need to? 3 blue claims, 3 lynches, scum is in the blue claims. is there any reason I need to be reading here? CellShow nested quote +On August 28 2014 10:49 Blazinghand wrote:
I haven't read the thread, because none of you worms are close enough to my level to merit my attention, and today is a lynch day. Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 02:55 Blazinghand wrote:
I have no illusions about whether or not I'm getting lynched. I don't have time to defend myself, so I'm getting lynched today, mostly becasue all you guys are too umad about how much I beat you at mafia to play a reasonable game. Ah well! You can apologize to me in post game Show nested quote +On August 30 2014 06:02 Blazinghand wrote:
dude i'm not reading 40 damn pages of posts, i'm at work. the only reason I could use the scanner is cause i'm the IT guy so I won't give myself crap for using it FantasyShow nested quote +On October 08 2014 01:30 Blazinghand wrote:Hi guys, I've returned to the thread. I'm currently catching up, but I took a moment to observe that OO still hasn't posted anything of note, or anything at all really since I last mentioned him. This kind of lethargy and uninterest is not too uncommon for scum players, and might even be a scumtell for OO (someone earlier said that OO's meta as scum is to do nothing and be uninterested). Those of you who want me to formulate a case against OO, allow me to show you the entirety of his filter: On October 06 2014 12:53 ObviousOne wrote:
first On October 06 2014 13:02 ObviousOne wrote:
que pasa con sus consuelas hijoles fritas On October 06 2014 13:04 ObviousOne wrote:
p.s. bedtime nitenite On October 07 2014 02:09 ObviousOne wrote:
Oh shit we're doing an RNG vote? Fuck yes, where's the vote thread? On October 07 2014 02:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Okay good, now that's out of the way.
#1 oats is prob town he's too frustrated and sticking around despite it. By corollary I like HF and batsnacks based on that discussion.
#2 don't know what to make of Grack, he was present and participating in a conversation but I don't really see anything alignment indicative after almost a full page of filter
#3 interested in the reply from storr re: liancourt On October 07 2014 02:29 ObviousOne wrote:On October 07 2014 02:20 batsnacks wrote:
I am a one man train. + Show Spoiler + On October 07 2014 05:33 ObviousOne wrote:
Lol holy shit self voting is literally against the rules I should have read at some point. Someone asked bout my oats read and it was cuz he stuck to defending his claim as a joke an participated in tomfoolery ironically aaaand that's literally everything this guy has posted. Surely everyone agrees with me here that someone like this can't possibly be allowed to live. Anyone complaining that people voting for an RNG target are opting out of the discourse, look at OO's filter and tell me with a straight face that he isn't also opting out of the discourse. In any case, let me know if you guys have any questions or anything you want me to focus on as I catch up. Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 02:57 Blazinghand wrote:Ok, I'm pretty much caught up on the thread, and it looks like there was some good action between hf/obi and storr/lian for me to check out. Before I dig in, I'd like to reaffirm my confidence that OO is the best lynch today. On October 08 2014 01:36 Damdred wrote:
BH could you look at storrs case/lian and hf and tell me what you think? Sure! I like some of storr's case on lian. I agree that lian hasn't taken strong enough positions, and seems to have attempted to do weird things on the OO wagon. That being said, the fact that he and KSC are dubious of RNG does not imo make them scummy. I think Storr's case would make for something interesting to follow up on after the OO lynch. I don't want to draw associative tells between unflipped players, but basically I don't find doubting RNG to be inherently unreasonable. Trying to throw lots of doubt on it, then saying that "rng is a method for scum to be using", seems to be something a new player could reasonably believe. If OO flips mafia scum, I'll be much more suspicious of lian. I think storr raises a good point that lian doesn't have aggressive reads. An important post to focus on is this one: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=28#544On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?
You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now? At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also. Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null. And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting. We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread. The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this. Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles. Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats. I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing. Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this. Basically, KSC asks Lian, "what are you scumreads", which is a reasonable question (KSC gets some points for this). Lian's reply is a rambling list post that doesn't have a cohesive read to unify it, or a case. Storrzerg accurate points out that the post doesn't specify a top scumread very well. Storrzerg says it already, so I won't bother repeating: Storrzerg
The question is, who does he think are scummy?
1. bh. Null
2. grack Null
3. obi hf 2 town fighting
4. oats town
5. hopeless is iffy, hasn't been paying attention to him.
6. Back to OO being strange
7. bats town
So "damd palmar storr" as mafia? (yes he puts it in a question mark. Is he unsure he walked through everyone? is he sure he picked the right people to call mafia? 2 people fairly inactive. )
His scum read on damd is "not giving away to much" since he only asks questions
and scum read on palmar + storr "haven't done anything worth mentioning"
And of course ends with "but ill wait until tomorrow until they opst to be sure" he is leaving himself an out, an escape to make sure people don't read to much into what he is saying.
The main point is that it was an awful list post. Yeah, this is good stuff. I like the storrzerg case. It's reasonable and liancourt doesn't look good. If I weren't so sure on this OO thing I'd consider voting liancourt. As it stands, I think we can deal with liancourt tomorrow. I'm gonna not focus on KSC for a moment except to say: On October 08 2014 01:40 KelsierSC wrote:
@bh i don't think anyone is seriously considering oo for the lynch because of the rng but because of his lurkiness and bad posts.
When OO flips scum you can apologize to me for ever doubting RNG.
I realize things got a bit rambly there so I'll summarize real quick 1. I still think OO is the best lynch, as I've outlined. 1.5. I think it's pretty clear OO is doing some kind of lurk / low energy thing this game. We can anticipate him coming back sometime near the end of the day and claiming he was busy or something. 2. Storrzerg's case on liancourt points out liancourt's very scummy response to "what are your scumreads", making me interested in lynching liancourt tomorrow HearthstoneShow nested quote +On November 01 2014 09:06 Blazinghand wrote:Ok I won't actually have time to make a real case between now and 2 hours from now when I promised I'd vote by. Some dinner issues came up. However, as the best player here I still have an obligation to lead town to victory, so I will lead, as I always do. It seems clear to me that it's time for an RNG lynch. So here's what happens 1) you all will follow me since I'm the best player here 2) I will lynch the guy via RNG as determined by this post (the one you're reading right now)'s post count modulo 9. Since so many people are posting at once on TL it's impossible for us to know what's going down. Basically, in addition to a "what post in this thread" post ID, each post has a unique sitewide id # that's increasing so quickly because of TL traffic, I can use it to RNG effectively. I've done this before. It works. If you don't know what "modulo" means or how my rng lynch works after this explantion, you are not mathematically and educationally qualified to claim that this lynch is not RNG. In the past game, this has lynched scum 100% of the time and it caused town to basically win. You can't deny RNG. For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =OWS, 2 = LT, etc, all the way up to 16 = holyflare and 0 = JB.
The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-17 by taking that number mod 17. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 16 mod 17 = 16. 17 mod 17 = 0. 19 mod 17 = 2. 24 mod 17 = 7. and so on.
Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 17. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST. In this case, 1 = OWS 2 = LT etc etc all the way up to 16 = HF 0 = JB (since a multiple of 14 modulo 14 is 0, not 14). + Show Spoiler [player list] +
1) ObiWanShinobi
2) Lord Tolkien
3) Misder
4) ritoky
5) risk.nuke
6) jrkirby
7) Seuss
8) VisceraEyes
9) GlowingBear
10) Oatsmaster
11) Alakaslam
12) Blazinghand
13) Damdred
14) liancourt
15) Circumstance
16) Holyflare
17) jaybrundage
there is no force on earth that can persuade me that RNG lynch is sub-optimal. bow before the RNG lynch. behold its glory and its horror and all of its majesty Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
The whole point or RNG, GB, is that I don't have control over who is lynched. Nobody does. It's RNG. If it was "I'm gonna use RNG, but only follow up on it if the guy is a lurker", that wouldn't be RNG, that would be "BH likes to talk about RNG but when the chips are down he folds" and I am not a guy who folds when the chips are down. I take RNG seriously, and yes, sometimes RNG lands on an active scum instead of a passive scum. That doesn't make it less valid. On November 01 2014 21:25 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 01 2014 21:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok. I know for a fact that BH likes RNG.
I also know for a fact that sometimes he uses this to generate discussion.
But there are two problems here:
1) He came to the thread late when discussion was already generated. There is plenty of information to have reads now. So this excuse to use RNG is off
2) It rolled one of the most active and prolific player in the game, so the chance of a mislynch is very high. But he insists to use RNG.
It looks like he is trying to get town off the right track, because he is insisting on a mechanic that is going to lead on a mislynches. He is not reading the game and he is not caring for the game. You can see that he refuses to talk about anything else.
Who BH thinks is scum? Nobody knows.
Who BH thinks is town? Nobody knows.
Passivity and creating confusion. Mafia traits.
BH is mafia. nah point 2 isnt relevant because RNGing then deciding to push that person defeats the purpose of RNG. So yeah these are mostly bad reasons why BH is scum. If BH was town, he would do the RNG shit too. But he would do additional stuff like trying harder to convince people to jump on the RNG wagon. Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum. On November 01 2014 21:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Slam, he had the chance to do it earlier. He came to the thread, someone sent him to dinner (lol) and he peace'd out.
Why he didn't start the RNG that time and not now? Eh, I wasn't really planning to do it, but it turned out I had to go to dinner and didn't have enough time to do any other voting strategy or do a bigger analysis of the thread. I'm 100% sure I already said this. Didn' you read my filter? On November 01 2014 23:51 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok oats.
My first thought was that maybe we should lynch Kirby
But after reading BH's previous games I want to lynch him so much. Explain? Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:01 Half the Sky wrote:
I am assuming you've had more exposure to him as a player than I have had in my scant two games alongside him.
I don't really have a great way to read BH and most of the time he just plays around with a RNG lynch and an eventual blue claim to save himself, but reading through some of his games he seems to often have trouble keeping up with the thread. As mafia he tends to quickly choose a target with very little thought and do whatever is best for BH. As town, he may start off with a random reason, but eventually he explains why it is the right choice or attempts to contribute something even if he isn't fully caught up. He makes no effort to help this game and is simply voting for snarfs because it isn't him, which matches the mafia games more than town in my opinion.
That's fine, we can address him later then.
HIJOLE!!!!!!!
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On March 30 2015 07:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:25 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:24 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Honestly all of my warrior candidates have the exact same targets, so I don't care who gets it. this should be scary Why?
Because the one most likely to win atm doesn't know who to lynch.
like 4 srs
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YES KITA's POST IS GOOD
I AM DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS TO LYNCH BH
LATER
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I REALLY DONT WANT TO LOSE OUR WARRIOR IMMEDIATELY AND REQUIRE A BUNCH OF MEDIC PROTECTS TO SURVIVE!!
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On March 30 2015 07:30 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:29 Alakaslam wrote:YES KITA's POST IS GOOD I AM DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS TO LYNCH BH LATER Down with the sickness eh?
yes. BH is probably scum.
This would explain in fact!
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On March 30 2015 07:31 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
I REALLY DONT WANT TO LOSE OUR WARRIOR IMMEDIATELY AND REQUIRE A BUNCH OF MEDIC PROTECTS TO SURVIVE!! If your role is that important and BH is that necessary, hardclaim. Otherwise we're just going to assume it isn't important.
FUck you scum
It's not like THE GREATEST ROLE but I'd rather not needlessly die along with OUR WARRIOR YOU DOLT
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On March 30 2015 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
No one knows what you're talking about Slam, either put it plainly or don't bother.
You know what?
Fuck it.
Lynch BH.
Lose the warrior.
Lose me.
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Nobody is being the good senpai.
I said it as well as I can already.
The one who lynches BH will DIE FIRST
Then
I will DIE LATER unless protected.
I SAY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOT LOSING THE WARRIOR?!?!? BUT YOU PPL DONT CARE
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On March 30 2015 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:33 Alakaslam wrote:On March 30 2015 07:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
No one knows what you're talking about Slam, either put it plainly or don't bother. You know what? Fuck it. Lynch BH. Lose the warrior. Lose me. JUST CLAIM! GOD! I'm not trying to be difficult, but you do this to yourself! LMAO
If I claim more I need MORE protection from KP, but that was somehwo not obvious with me all liek "I can't say more ! Too Risky! And If other PEople are up, Imma speak up!"
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On March 30 2015 07:35 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:34 Alakaslam wrote:
Nobody is being the good senpai.
I said it as well as I can already.
The one who lynches BH will DIE FIRST
Then
I will DIE LATER unless protected.
I SAY IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOT LOSING THE WARRIOR?!?!? BUT YOU PPL DONT CARE Just to be clear, BH will live even if lynched or will he simply take other players with him?
Oh yeah
no he does die. He just takes us with him, but it's not his doing with regard to me. I don't know about the lyncher.
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On March 30 2015 07:35 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:35 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
im down to kill BH if it kills slam even though I dont think hes mafia lol. wat Every slam post is spam to me as its just gibberish, I dont particularly like playing with him.
Keir i thought htis was common knowledge?
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Man, I'm bout ready to just give up and let it happen.
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On March 30 2015 07:38 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 07:36 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:35 VayneAuthority wrote:On March 30 2015 07:35 Keirathi wrote:On March 30 2015 07:34 VayneAuthority wrote:
im down to kill BH if it kills slam even though I dont think hes mafia lol. wat Every slam post is spam to me as its just gibberish, I dont particularly like playing with him. Then why the fuck did you join the game? he is in just about every game if you arent aware. and greymist games are once every like 6 months or so, multiple obvious answers to this question. hes also only 1 player out of 20+ but doesnt change the fact that I wouldnt shed a tear if he dies.
I can vouch for this. I play a lot of mafia and this is a rare game.
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On March 30 2015 07:39 Hapahauli wrote:
In regard to BH... Slam can you just claim? Non-cryptically?
How would you know about BH's powers?
How hte hell many medics do we have?
WAIT I DONT WANT TO FIND OUT FIRST
How the hell can I make an informed risk/payoff decision then?
Nah.
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