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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#541
Ok, so we are lynching Koshi. From now on we should focus on who we lynch day2.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#542
A vote for me is a vote for clearing out trash/mafia players that sign up to afk (and probably demotivated cz mafia/3p)
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 28 2015 15:06 GMT
#543
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!
Try TL Mafia!!!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:07 GMT
#544
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!


Scum qt

Koshi: fuck I'm going afk bus me
BH: ok
Onegu: ok!
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 28 2015 15:07 GMT
#545
On March 28 2015 16:42 Holyflare wrote:
My opening is absolutely nothing like carol...?


On March 28 2015 16:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
Um yeh fuck that I'm just going to find mafia
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it.

Get rekt mafia


Second quote is my carol opener. If anyone can even hint that they are the same that is a blatant misrepresentation.


On March 28 2015 16:58 Holyflare wrote:
Ehhh i guess that's true now i look at my own games. No way near as forced as carol though.


Not a fan of this series of posts. Three self-defense posts over a silly intro post comparison is overkill and calling it a blatant misrepresentation is over dramatized. At least he back tracks I suppose, but if obi said that about me I doubt I would be spending time looking into my past games.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:09 GMT
#546
On March 29 2015 00:07 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 16:42 Holyflare wrote:
My opening is absolutely nothing like carol...?


Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 16:47 Holyflare wrote:
On March 28 2015 08:43 Holyflare wrote:
Um yeh fuck that I'm just going to find mafia
On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it.

Get rekt mafia


Second quote is my carol opener. If anyone can even hint that they are the same that is a blatant misrepresentation.


Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 16:58 Holyflare wrote:
Ehhh i guess that's true now i look at my own games. No way near as forced as carol though.


Not a fan of this series of posts. Three self-defense posts over a silly intro post comparison is overkill and calling it a blatant misrepresentation is over dramatized. At least he back tracks I suppose, but if obi said that about me I doubt I would be spending time looking into my past games.


Um not really. I only looked at it because Keirathi told me otherwise. I wanted to push a scum lynch on obi and backtracked when evidence pointed out the opposite.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2015 15:09 GMT
#547
On March 29 2015 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
A vote for me is a vote for clearing out trash/mafia players that sign up to afk (and probably demotivated cz mafia/3p)


i still don't like your playing blind duckling to said trash/mafia players that sign up to afk ^^

especially when you had so much more information to work with than when they made their initial posts

+ Show Spoiler +
oooohhh shnap! did she say that just now? yes she did. geeeet ready to ruuuumble!
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Sepulchre
Profile Joined October 2014
United States141 Posts
March 28 2015 15:10 GMT
#548
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:11 GMT
#549
On March 29 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
A vote for me is a vote for clearing out trash/mafia players that sign up to afk (and probably demotivated cz mafia/3p)


i still don't like your playing blind duckling to said trash/mafia players that sign up to afk ^^

especially when you had so much more information to work with than when they made their initial posts

+ Show Spoiler +
oooohhh shnap! did she say that just now? yes she did. geeeet ready to ruuuumble!


Hey i said ls was good because i actually read your post and it was good. Koshi said it was good because it was ls meta master without reading at all.

How am i a blind duckling? Who is afk that shouldn't be that I'm not focusing on??
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 28 2015 15:11 GMT
#550
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
March 28 2015 15:12 GMT
#551
On March 29 2015 00:00 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin I finding your entrance quite lackluster compared to XXX and other games you rolled town.


yup...that's exactly with the "meta master" said when you decided he was "smart" ^^



though apparently you did mention my absence from the thread before posting this @LS, so my bad on that count. still not sure why you think it makes me scum but...eh


Normally I see you enter the game much faster with a more cheerful post when your town and the fact you went straight to business is bugging me.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
March 28 2015 15:12 GMT
#552
On March 28 2015 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2015 23:47 Koshi wrote:
On March 28 2015 18:18 Holyflare wrote:
i don't know when you want me, koshi or jat to be productive somehow when we're asleep.

I won't be productive this game.

On March 28 2015 23:30 Onegu wrote:
On March 28 2015 23:28 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 23:27 Onegu wrote:
On March 28 2015 23:24 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 23:21 Onegu wrote:
On March 28 2015 23:17 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:13 ExO_ wrote:
On March 28 2015 21:04 Chezitwo wrote:
[quote]
This is very wrong. The little squabble is one of the only things I've managed to get a lean out of someone one way or another, so it's one of the most useful things that's happened in the thread.

And if you find mafia, you know who to elect.

You cannot possibly know who to elect without finding mafia.


You could argue it's the same thing, but you need to find town more than mafia (for this particular day 1 setup). 3 really townie people specifically. I'd say its easier and more important to focus on finding and electing the 3 most townie people.

In my opinion getting really solid reads on scum is damn near impossible on day 1. It's a crapshoot of people spewing meta reads and bullshit. However I think certain people almost always stick out as super townie. Right now I'm not seeing the super town people. So until I think we're in the right direction as far getting townies elected that's what I'm going to focus on.


lol xP damn but your inner starkingdoms is showing through terribly right now

how precisely do you plan on finding these "super!towns" without scumhunting?

oh, oh, i know! who has the prettiest campaign?! whoever put the most work into the formatting/font surely must be town!

and y'all wonder why i wanted people to commit to their top scumreads like a regular day 1 lynch...lol >< dead threads and people thinking these campaigns of hot air are more important than finding scum is exactly why



onegu ^^; dude...gonna explain why blazinghand is your pick or just vote some dude at random who has barely said a word?



Wants to kill Koshi and I'm down with that!


i kinda figured lol xP

but why are you down with that?



Cuz it's koshi in a large themed game, need I say more?


o.0 ummmm yeah?

lol you forget i've only been here since november...koshi can be poison in a thread, but what makes the large themed game bit significant?


The last one he mod killed himself then posted salt pics everywhere

salt pics? I did not.

You will better be productive or we just lynch the shit out of you. The last time you said this you were mafia.


emo koshi did show up in the recent Jack of all trades mafia as town. Not sure if he is trying to mimic the attitude or not. Either way, I'm fine with lynching any drama queens.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2015 15:13 GMT
#553
On March 29 2015 00:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:09 rsoultin wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
A vote for me is a vote for clearing out trash/mafia players that sign up to afk (and probably demotivated cz mafia/3p)


i still don't like your playing blind duckling to said trash/mafia players that sign up to afk ^^

especially when you had so much more information to work with than when they made their initial posts

+ Show Spoiler +
oooohhh shnap! did she say that just now? yes she did. geeeet ready to ruuuumble!


Hey i said ls was good because i actually read your post and it was good. Koshi said it was good because it was ls meta master without reading at all.

How am i a blind duckling? Who is afk that shouldn't be that I'm not focusing on??


nah baby you said koshi was good for liking lightningstrike's post ^^ you neglected to mention that part
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#554
Um. He was good for liking a good post. It's not like i magically know his reason for liking that post before he says his reason is it??
Sepulchre
Profile Joined October 2014
United States141 Posts
March 28 2015 15:14 GMT
#555
On March 29 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?

Because Blazinghand/Onegu motioned to policy lynch him before his latest bunch of posts that made everybody (me admittedly included) want to get rid of him.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2015 15:15 GMT
#556
You even said so yourself that ls was warranted in saying your opening was different. I see him say that. I like him
I see other people like that. I like them.

Then the trash comes back for some clearing.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16319 Posts
March 28 2015 15:16 GMT
#557
On March 29 2015 00:14 Sepulchre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?

Because Blazinghand/Onegu motioned to policy lynch him before his latest bunch of posts that made everybody (me admittedly included) want to get rid of him.

Ok. But BH and Onegu want to policy lynch him for being an annoyingly aggressive and aggressively wrong lunatic in his last games as town. As you can see he is the opposite this game which indicates that he is scum. He isn't able to emulate his townplay as scum at all.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2015 15:17 GMT
#558
On March 29 2015 00:12 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:00 rsoultin wrote:
On March 28 2015 10:33 LightningStrike wrote:
rsoultin I finding your entrance quite lackluster compared to XXX and other games you rolled town.


yup...that's exactly with the "meta master" said when you decided he was "smart" ^^



though apparently you did mention my absence from the thread before posting this @LS, so my bad on that count. still not sure why you think it makes me scum but...eh


Normally I see you enter the game much faster with a more cheerful post when your town and the fact you went straight to business is bugging me.


you knew why i wasn't in the thread because we were in voice mafia together so that's....bullshit! ^^

where do you stand on me now, lightningstrike? still bugged? what makes going straight to business bad? have i never gone straight to business before as town? (hint: pretty sure i have) have i always gone straight to business as scum? (hint: pretty sure that's a resounding no)

bring something better bby, your metaread don't fly here
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 28 2015 15:21 GMT
#559
On March 29 2015 00:15 Holyflare wrote:
You even said so yourself that ls was warranted in saying your opening was different. I see him say that. I like him
I see other people like that. I like them.

Then the trash comes back for some clearing.


lol i didn't say he was warranted

i said he hyper-focuses on how "happy" i am when metareading me, and by those parameters his read holds water

what i really don't like is this "she's out of the thread, which is scummy, even though we're playing voice mafia together" line he took before that which i missed

that is sketching me out ><

but sure i guess if you like lightningstrike's post you can like koshi liking the post, but you saying i'm scum with them is just bad...they were going off an entrance, while you were going off everything else i'd posted in the thread
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Sepulchre
Profile Joined October 2014
United States141 Posts
March 28 2015 15:22 GMT
#560
On March 29 2015 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 00:14 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:11 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:10 Sepulchre wrote:
On March 29 2015 00:06 Onegu wrote:
See my reason for voting BH is awesome!

Well I do understand it now, however that doesn't change the fact that we don't need to waste our vote on a probable modkill.

From what I'm gathering his actions also don't really have anything to do with his alignment (considering people saw this coming beforehand), so I think we could probably do better.

How did you gather this?

Because Blazinghand/Onegu motioned to policy lynch him before his latest bunch of posts that made everybody (me admittedly included) want to get rid of him.

Ok. But BH and Onegu want to policy lynch him for being an annoyingly aggressive and aggressively wrong lunatic in his last games as town. As you can see he is the opposite this game which indicates that he is scum. He isn't able to emulate his townplay as scum at all.

Well that is possible, but neither of them said that. IIRC the only reasoning before was Onegu saying that Koshi "ruins themed games" or something along those lines, so I assumed Koshi's recent behavior was him showing that. Could very well be the two meant what you are saying instead.

As I have worded in my original post it's just what I gathered from their implications, I don't really have the time (or, I admit, motivation) to check for myself.

Either way, the far more important point I made was the first one - Wasting a lynch on a potential modkill (or if need be there surely is going to be some form of town KP) seems to not be the most optimal course of action.
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