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On March 30 2015 04:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On March 30 2015 04:15 Holyflare wrote:
let's comment on that guy we want to lynch post instead of that guy we don't want to lynch shoddy reasoning for town reading ls Fair enough. So...Trfel/Keirathi? no hapa still, that post was awful, his reads aren't "non committal" like hapa is stating, he town reads ls quite hard and has the same read on hapa as everyone else in the game and same with hts (before someone found out her pre-game excuse or w/e) he also says that town generally like to find mafia first and his first post was that trfel called sicklucker mafia......? i don't get it at all
Also, it's worth commenting that Trefel isn't "hard town-reading LS". The statement "I'm not convinced that LightningStrike is scum" does not sounds like a strong town read.
Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad.
He calls sicklucker mafia, as well as a couple of other people. Instead of developing his other reads when sicklucker claims 3p, he gets super comfortable with lynching sicklucker. That 'aint good.
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On March 30 2015 04:32 Keirathi wrote:
Yo Hapa, am I scum? Gogo.
Probably not.
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Other than Trefl, the people that stuck out to me were Wave and Sepul
On March 28 2015 08:27 Sepulchre wrote:
Thinking about it, the cleric is probably the most important role of the three.
I'm not very concerned about the rogue, the no-lynch is practically impossible to use without him eating rope the next day.
So I will focus on getting town people on positions 3 and 1. Finding mafia would be a plus, but seems secondary.
This is the "infamous" post I suppose. I dont' necessarily think he's mafia for prioritizing the mayoral voting. I can see a newer townie player do that.
What I find interesting is that he prioritizes finding townies for "positions 3 and 1", and then...
On March 29 2015 21:57 Sepulchre wrote:
@Holyflare's listpost: I disagree heavily with batsnacks, I'd put him next to WaveofShadow personally. I'm somewhat okay with the rest of the list to varying degrees.
The two people who said Hapahauli is a Jester-type role I read as very town. It fits perfectly the kind of wtf play he has been doing and I think no mafia would say that in this situation - Hapahauli was (and is I suppose) the prime lynch target and as mafia they wouldn't care one bit about that, so long as it's not a mafia member getting lynched.
Between rsoultin and VayneAuthority I think VayneAuthority seems like the smarter guy. So I'll vote him now since I can't fully guarantee being back before the deadline.
... proceeds to vote Vayne for the slimmest of reasons. There's no indication that he thinks Vayne is town. He just kinda votes him because "he seems smarter", which is not what I'd expect given his first post.
Wave's play this game feels a lot more "conversational" than anything else. It doesn't feel like he's persuing anything seriously; he's just going around and talking to people, building up a 5 page filter in the process.
He's giving out townreads to virtually anyone active and talking to him. Very little in the way of scum-reads.
Read his filter and get a feel for it. It's difficult to post specific things when talking about his general behavior.
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Hm well I'm mostly caught up. If anyone has anything to ask, I'll be around for a while.
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On March 30 2015 05:15 Koshi wrote:I forgot WoS. That guy is seriously mafia.
I will bus...
ALL MY TEAMMATES
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On March 30 2015 05:16 Holyflare wrote:
hapa is totes trying to buddy me by copying what i said already
Well you literally say everything.
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On March 30 2015 05:20 Koshi wrote:
Hapa, you are still mafia because if I am wrong on everything you are just sheeping thread sentiment.
I woudl be sheeping thread sentiment if I called myself mafia.
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On March 30 2015 05:25 Keirathi wrote:
So Hapa:
Why did you fuck off for the last 44 hours? You obviously were around and varying points and still did absolutely nothing. What gives?
I had a fairly busy two days, so I was actively trying to detach myself from the thread to preserve my sanity. To force myself to "not give a shit" if you will. I really didn't want to be thinking about this mafia game for the last two days.
It certainly worked. Personally anyway. As for the negative effects, I think ~50 hours is plenty of time to get suspicion off of me.
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No no, not lynching BH.
Bad JAT. Bad.
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On March 30 2015 05:36 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:
No no, not lynching BH.
Bad JAT. Bad. This will surely change my mind.
Is BH-trolling alignment indicative?
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On March 30 2015 05:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:38 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 05:36 justanothertownie wrote:On March 30 2015 05:34 Hapahauli wrote:
No no, not lynching BH.
Bad JAT. Bad. This will surely change my mind. Is BH-trolling alignment indicative? No, but him being the way he is towards Koshi is. It reminds me of his behaviour towards me in YOSO and also of some cell game he was mafia in (?).
For someone who bitches about bad meta reads, you have a lot of bad meta reads.
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On March 30 2015 05:46 Chezitwo wrote:
The irony is palpable
This man for Warrior.
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On March 30 2015 06:06 Crossfire99 wrote:Why does it seem like we are getting away from a Hapa lynch? Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 05:30 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 05:25 Keirathi wrote:
So Hapa:
Why did you fuck off for the last 44 hours? You obviously were around and varying points and still did absolutely nothing. What gives? I had a fairly busy two days, so I was actively trying to detach myself from the thread to preserve my sanity. To force myself to "not give a shit" if you will. I really didn't want to be thinking about this mafia game for the last two days. It certainly worked. Personally anyway. As for the negative effects, I think ~50 hours is plenty of time to get suspicion off of me. Why didn't you tell us this previously? This just seems like an retroactive explanation for why you actively refused to play. If you were really busy, tell us then instead of making the purposely trolly posts which show you are "following" the thread but are just refusing to play.
I've tried stuff like that before. In many games, I post pre-game that "oh, I won't be as active because I'm busy etc etc", and then I end up try-harding anyway because I can't get the game off my mind.
So I tried something different. Woop.
But the main reason that people are moving away from my lynch is that it's generally really fucking obvious to tell if I'm mafia when I'm posting for an extended amount of time. In 48 hours, it should be pretty easy to tell my alignment. And if for whatever reason it isn't, my role allows me to kill myself on Day 3, so I'll save you from lynching me if I don't do my job.
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On March 30 2015 06:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 06:06 Crossfire99 wrote:Why does it seem like we are getting away from a Hapa lynch? On March 30 2015 05:30 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 05:25 Keirathi wrote:
So Hapa:
Why did you fuck off for the last 44 hours? You obviously were around and varying points and still did absolutely nothing. What gives? I had a fairly busy two days, so I was actively trying to detach myself from the thread to preserve my sanity. To force myself to "not give a shit" if you will. I really didn't want to be thinking about this mafia game for the last two days. It certainly worked. Personally anyway. As for the negative effects, I think ~50 hours is plenty of time to get suspicion off of me. Why didn't you tell us this previously? This just seems like an retroactive explanation for why you actively refused to play. If you were really busy, tell us then instead of making the purposely trolly posts which show you are "following" the thread but are just refusing to play. I've tried stuff like that before. In many games, I post pre-game that "oh, I won't be as active because I'm busy etc etc", and then I end up try-harding anyway because I can't get the game off my mind. So I tried something different. Woop. But the main reason that people are moving away from my lynch is that it's generally really fucking obvious to tell if I'm mafia when I'm posting for an extended amount of time. In 48 hours, it should be pretty easy to tell my alignment. And if for whatever reason it isn't, my role allows me to kill myself on Day 3, so I'll save you from lynching me if I don't do my job. We have no reason to believe you'll actually kill yourself. >:|
The Day 3 thing is the most irrelevant thing in my post.
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On March 30 2015 06:21 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:17 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 06:06 Crossfire99 wrote:Why does it seem like we are getting away from a Hapa lynch? On March 30 2015 05:30 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 05:25 Keirathi wrote:
So Hapa:
Why did you fuck off for the last 44 hours? You obviously were around and varying points and still did absolutely nothing. What gives? I had a fairly busy two days, so I was actively trying to detach myself from the thread to preserve my sanity. To force myself to "not give a shit" if you will. I really didn't want to be thinking about this mafia game for the last two days. It certainly worked. Personally anyway. As for the negative effects, I think ~50 hours is plenty of time to get suspicion off of me. Why didn't you tell us this previously? This just seems like an retroactive explanation for why you actively refused to play. If you were really busy, tell us then instead of making the purposely trolly posts which show you are "following" the thread but are just refusing to play. I've tried stuff like that before. In many games, I post pre-game that "oh, I won't be as active because I'm busy etc etc", and then I end up try-harding anyway because I can't get the game off my mind. So I tried something different. Woop. But the main reason that people are moving away from my lynch is that it's generally really fucking obvious to tell if I'm mafia when I'm posting for an extended amount of time. In 48 hours, it should be pretty easy to tell my alignment. And if for whatever reason it isn't, my role allows me to kill myself on Day 3, so I'll save you from lynching me if I don't do my job. I agree that it is really obvious to tell if you're mafia, but allowing to let you live if you're mafia is allowing you to use your role, allowing a potential mislynch to replace your lynch, so I'm not sold on the wait and see approach.
Tunneling won't get us anywhere. Consider the alternatives in my filter and tell me what you think.
Trefl, Sepul, and Wave.
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On March 30 2015 06:25 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:21 Damdred wrote:On March 30 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:On March 30 2015 06:17 Damdred wrote:
LS why not rs here I'm pretty sure she's town?
Rs who is your lynch? I trust JAT since I know he's a smart player and I do think both of them are town I just think JAT might be the better leader. IDK I think you should vote rsoultin. Who would you lynch today Hapa because what I said in his filter he done jack shit early on and the fact that he only decided to play with very little time left in the Day I think it fits more of a scum type of play to do stuff at EoD area.
It's fairly disconcerting that you have such a strong read without taking any effort to talk to me in the past two hours.
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On March 30 2015 06:30 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 06:27 Hapahauli wrote:On March 30 2015 06:25 LightningStrike wrote:On March 30 2015 06:21 Damdred wrote:On March 30 2015 06:19 LightningStrike wrote:On March 30 2015 06:17 Damdred wrote:
LS why not rs here I'm pretty sure she's town?
Rs who is your lynch? I trust JAT since I know he's a smart player and I do think both of them are town I just think JAT might be the better leader. IDK I think you should vote rsoultin. Who would you lynch today Hapa because what I said in his filter he done jack shit early on and the fact that he only decided to play with very little time left in the Day I think it fits more of a scum type of play to do stuff at EoD area. It's fairly disconcerting that you have such a strong read without taking any effort to talk to me in the past two hours. Let's see I had read your filter and talked to others about you. Why should I consider you to be town?
Agreeing or disagreeing with my reads is a start. I really dont' care if you consider me town right now. I don't have the time luxury for that.
I'm more interested in why I'm your top target, and yet you've made no attempt to interact with me until I prodded you to do so.
Your top scumread starts posting 2.5 hours ago. Is it not natural to want to talk to said "top scumread?"
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On March 30 2015 06:32 Koshi wrote:
That being said. I have 0 problems with a snarf shot. But I need to know why the fuck we are lynching him because I haven't heard anybody say something really smart about a snarf lynch.
kita hapa hf JAT
What are your opinions on this snarf lynch?
I want them on paper. I want to read them.
Eh. I think he looks "objectively bad." First post is a "say nothing" intro post, followed by a great deal of weak town reads.
That being said, it makes sense that he'd do something like this, given that his priorities today seem to be voting for a "town" lynch party.
I think lynching him is a coinflip. Not a terrible coinflip, but I'd lynch Trfel or Sepul over him any day. WoS... I'd like to see him alive another day as I think there's some margin for error in my read there.
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On March 30 2015 06:34 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
[*]As mafia, sicklucker's claim is intended to try to get elected to the adventuring party, and to explain why he is not night killed in this game. Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
Sicklucker didn't make any effort to push his campaign for the adventuring party. Show nested quote +On March 29 2015 06:25 Trfel wrote:
sicklucker himself stated that he never gets night killed. Show nested quote +On March 30 2015 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Furthermore, you're not really understanding what I"m trying to say about Trefl in general. Sicklucker post was good on its own. Paired with the 2nd, it is bad. While I share your opinion about Trefl, I don't understand how you can say the sicklucker post was good on its own. Based on the three quotes above, how does the justification for a mafia sicklucker look good, when he refutes it in his own set of posts? As I was telling HF, your townyness usually becomes apparent if you actually put effort in the game and get shot shortly after. Do you intend to use PMs to their fullest extent tonight and be active on day two or do you anticipate being unavailable?
I largely used the word "good" in the sense that it looked good on its face, and the reason I was suspicious of Trfel was for reasons other than his case. I agree his justification for reading sicklucker as mafia is the best, but there's no inherent mafia motive in bad reasoning.
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