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Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 29 2015 22:39 GMT
#2340
I had to step away, but I'm back now. I see now BH is a target but slam doesn't want him lynched because he and the lyncher will die. Hmmmm. Kita's post on BH looks good and I have a town read on kita, so I'd want BH dead, but not if it kills the lyncher which will probably be rsoultin.

I'm thinking of voting for HF because he needs to be in the top 3 because he's town. Yeah, I'll vote for HF now.

##Vote: HolyFlare
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 29 2015 22:44 GMT
#2369
On March 30 2015 07:41 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:39 Crossfire99 wrote:
I had to step away, but I'm back now. I see now BH is a target but slam doesn't want him lynched because he and the lyncher will die. Hmmmm. Kita's post on BH looks good and I have a town read on kita, so I'd want BH dead, but not if it kills the lyncher which will probably be rsoultin.

I'm thinking of voting for HF because he needs to be in the top 3 because he's town. Yeah, I'll vote for HF now.

##Vote: HolyFlare



sooo yea...still a scumread for me here and surprised no one else agrees about this. he just came into the thread and summarized it and it looks like he plans on leaving now. ill have to make a real case on some nuisances I picked up on next cycle.

I'm still here Vayne. Reading and trying to understand the craziness and who exactly should be lynched.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 29 2015 22:54 GMT
#2417
On March 30 2015 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 07:42 Holyflare wrote:
i am NOT voting bh, i am voting sicklucker for now until people tell me otherwise


this guy has 3 pages of filter

look at all the games he has played in how he references his scum meta:

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2015 07:53 sicklucker wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:31 Eden1892 wrote:
On January 31 2015 07:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
Game's been going for longer than 10 minutes and SL has less than 1 page of filter

##vote sicklucker

A++


This is a absolutely terrible read. The only time ive rolled mafia mspaint. I froze up and had a 2-4 page filter day1. Dandred/chezina my mafia partners can verify this. I was super afraid to post early in that game.

I want to scum read ff for it since he was in that game. But he just puts scum on me everygame and im always town. The one time I was mafia he actually laid off me.


Show nested quote +
On March 19 2015 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:57 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:55 Holyflare wrote:
On March 19 2015 19:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Probably has to do something with the range when mafia is more likely to put their vote on a certain wagon.

Holyflare the Toad - Palmar fest. Does it mean anything?


probably nothing at all, but it kind of reminds me of toad going ham on geript in that game i bussed everyone

yeah me too.
but let's not talk about more of it yet.

Talk to me about sicklucker. I don't understand why people are voting for him.


well he lied/forgot about stuff which i guess isn't indicative but then he put in a spoiler that he should be confirmed by filter length when he used that argument in void or w/e it was and was mafia with a longer filter so i'm kinda just keeping it on him till he does something useful

The logest games he has been alive in are:
TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells Town Vanilla Survived Night 5 (28 pages of filter)
Imperial Mafia Town Vanilla Endgamed Day 6 (19 pages)
The Void Mafia Mafia Rolecop Survived Day 5 (52 pages)
Campus Mafia Town Vanilla Lynched Day 7 (35 pages)
VI Titanic Mini Mafia: The Return of MSPaint Mafia Roleblocker Endgamed Day 5 (14 pages)

I think by simple post/phase comparison he is not lying. Like i don't care what he said as scum in Void, but i don't think him saying that here makes him mafia.

i agree he should start being useful.


each time as mafia he has lower page counts


I looked at his the filter lengths from other games and he's put up 8ish pages on day 1 in linux and 11 in slytherin by day 2. He was scum in both and was dead for the rest of those games. He had 8 and 10 in PYP protoss and horn as town for both dying in days 2 and 1 respectively. I'm not sure if we can make a determination just based off of day 1 here. I think it will take longer to figure out based on filter length.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 30 2015 21:40 GMT
#3019
Hi I'm back. Sorry for not being too active. Been pretty busy. Trying to do as much as I can do. I understand why you think I'm scum and don't blame you. All I can say in my defense is that I had to step away for like an hour or something and when I came back there was like 30 minutes left before the lynch. I wanted hapa dead, but it looked like that wasn't an option, and there were a lot of possibilities being thrown around. I knew my vote would matter for who got powers, so I picked HF because he was lacking votes and I thought he was town. I seriously doubted hapa was a lynch option because every major candidate had moved past him by that point. Unfortunately, I have to leave now because family stuff came up, so I'll have to redeem myself tomorrow because I doubt I'm a night kill since everyone thinks I'm scum. Bye.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:32 GMT
#3759
Feels great to be alive. No, seriously. I'm Strong Bad, and you don't know it yet, but I'm the reason you're here. Check me out! No, seriously, check me out.

[image loading]

You all already seem to know of the existence of Strong Bad. I am he. Rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated. My breadcrumb is my first post.

On March 28 2015 08:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
oaipjdsiou cnmc,xuop ljkj fkla;j fwuqwahnlasf fhqwhgads iopquecjo jioapidjpj ijapodsfj oijf aopdifj

I'm so excited I had to type gibberish. This game will be crazy, I'm sure of it.


If you think the crumb is that I typed gibberish because I wear boxing gloves, you'd be forgiven for thinking so, but you're wrong. I obviously can answer emails fine while using my hands because I don't take my hands off. Sheesh. The real bread crumb is the bolded part, the fhqwhgads. Click it to see the reference.

Anyways, my ability was to fake my own death and choose the role name, abilities, alignment and flavor text of the fake death me. For the next 24 hrs after fake death I cannot post or be targeted or do anything. After 24 hours a host will announce me as alive. Seeing as how this ability is very weird, I had to think of an inventive way to use it. So I did.

I chose a random role, abilities, and flavor, but made it so that I flip mafia. Since I am town, being flipped as mafia will cause confusion. Mafia will know that I'm not mafia because I'm not in their qt. They won't know what is going on and will be unsure of how to proceed with their reads and how to treat connections with me and how to analyze my reads. Everyone else will not care about that and just assume that I am actually mafia. When I actually return to the thread I will be able to point out who had weird reads regarding me after my death. That was the goal at least. Unfortunately, pms were allowed today which means I don't have many reactions to go over lol. Hopefully people will have gotten stuff in pms that they can bring forward.

Feel free to ask me whatever questions you want. Right now I don't know a lot of what is happening because it is all happening in pm land, so feel free to pm me because I want to chat.

Oh, I also had another ability that would allow me to give one person the ability to PM once during the day. I could then respond in kind, just like how Strong Bad answers emails. Anyway I used it day one to try to better interact with Hapa. He just said hi, I asked him why he was playing that way and told him to respond in thread. Looks like I was wrong and he just really didn't have time to play. T_T
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:36 GMT
#3761
On April 01 2015 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
wadafuk.......?

That's what I said when I read my role too.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:38 GMT
#3763
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

Must have. Or was bussed or something.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:42 GMT
#3765
On April 01 2015 08:40 Damdred wrote:
Cross fire did the day end early because of your revival

No. I know nothing about that and had nothing to do with it.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:44 GMT
#3768
What I'd like to know is where rsoultin went. I want to talk to her but she can't pm.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:46 GMT
#3770
On April 01 2015 08:44 Blazinghand wrote:
ahahaha what

Did you happen to check me last night? My ability definitely falls under your not listed category lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:51 GMT
#3773
On April 01 2015 08:49 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?


He said his ability is to fake his own death. That implies, to me, that he wasn't actually targeted by KP.

Unless you know something.

I was not killed by KP last night. I chose my manner of death btw. The kill flavor was all my idea.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:56 GMT
#3779
On April 01 2015 08:53 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:51 Crossfire99 wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:49 batsnacks wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:44 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:38 justanothertownie wrote:
So Moriarty checked Crossfire eh?

I could almost believe this scenario, except it's just so....convenient?

Like, the Moriarty (who is probably mafia because why the fuck hasn't he claimed to anyone yet) just happened to check Crossfire (of all people...not one of the people who mafia will actually NK anytime soon), who happens to have an ability that confirms his role to the thread when he revives?

Meh. Confusing.

Why would mafia check someone they will nightkill anyways?


He said his ability is to fake his own death. That implies, to me, that he wasn't actually targeted by KP.

Unless you know something.

I was not killed by KP last night. I chose my manner of death btw. The kill flavor was all my idea.

So, if you're telling the truth, how exactly does you flipping yourself as scum help the town? You say "confuse the mafia" or whatever, but doesn't it confuse town more?

Also, you said your goal was to gather information on people's reads about your death/etc. So what are your thoughts?

As I said in my big post most people talked in pms so I couldn't read that obviously. For what it is worth, everyone including yourself who posted in thread about me seemed to take it at face value and I could discern no extra knowledge coloring your reads.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
March 31 2015 23:59 GMT
#3783
Also, how else am I suppose to use a role where I fake my own death? Like it is the most confusing role ever. It doesn't actually protect me from abilities since my someone got my role name last night. My whole role is confusing and makes no sense to me honestly. Why is it a town role? How is faking my death useful? That was the best I got. Confuse mafia and maybe get reactions to determine who they are. Problem is informing people about this action ruins the whole purpose, so I didn't tell anyone save one person, who I'm waiting to talk and see if that person learned anything in pms or something.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 00:07 GMT
#3791
On April 01 2015 09:05 Keirathi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 08:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Also, how else am I suppose to use a role where I fake my own death? Like it is the most confusing role ever. It doesn't actually protect me from abilities since my someone got my role name last night. My whole role is confusing and makes no sense to me honestly. Why is it a town role? How is faking my death useful? That was the best I got. Confuse mafia and maybe get reactions to determine who they are. Problem is informing people about this action ruins the whole purpose, so I didn't tell anyone save one person, who I'm waiting to talk and see if that person learned anything in pms or something.

Why even use it at all?

My role is awful and I'll never use either of my abilities because it does nothing to push town closer to finding mafia. The fact is that yours actually pushes town BACKWARDS towards finding mafia.

Zzzzzz.

Well I was incentivized to use it because I was told I would gain new abilities upon returning. But I feel like it is all a troll because my new ability is literally a death framer. It frames someone as the opposite alignment upon death for 24 hours...
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 00:13 GMT
#3802
On April 01 2015 09:12 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 09:09 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 01 2015 09:07 Crossfire99 wrote:
On April 01 2015 09:05 Keirathi wrote:
On April 01 2015 08:59 Crossfire99 wrote:
Also, how else am I suppose to use a role where I fake my own death? Like it is the most confusing role ever. It doesn't actually protect me from abilities since my someone got my role name last night. My whole role is confusing and makes no sense to me honestly. Why is it a town role? How is faking my death useful? That was the best I got. Confuse mafia and maybe get reactions to determine who they are. Problem is informing people about this action ruins the whole purpose, so I didn't tell anyone save one person, who I'm waiting to talk and see if that person learned anything in pms or something.

Why even use it at all?

My role is awful and I'll never use either of my abilities because it does nothing to push town closer to finding mafia. The fact is that yours actually pushes town BACKWARDS towards finding mafia.

Zzzzzz.

Well I was incentivized to use it because I was told I would gain new abilities upon returning. But I feel like it is all a troll because my new ability is literally a death framer. It frames someone as the opposite alignment upon death for 24 hours...

I think I don't need to tell you to never use it ever...

Agreed. There's no way that can do more good for town than harm.

Yeah I know that lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 00:21 GMT
#3814
On April 01 2015 09:13 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 09:12 rsoultin wrote:
I got that impression while talking to him, yes. He was trying to figure out the best way to utilize his role and did say that he thought maybe he shouldn't when we were discussing it N1.

That would have been smarter.

yeah well I thought my role was like wherebugsgo from personality 2

You are wherebugsgo, Jack of all mafia trades! Unfortunately for you, you seem to have rolled town. Once per cycle, you must submit one of the following actions. You cannot select the same action twice. The following cycle you will receive a reward for your scummy ways based on your selection. 1) Frame target player to return the role and alignment of your choice. 2) Silence target player from posting in the thread for the first 24 hours of the day cycle. 3) Cover target player's alignment from being revealed during an alignment check or death through night hit. 4) Roleblock target player. 5) Pardon target player during the day cycle. You win with town.


After using one of those abilities the player gained the opposite power.

1) Frame -> role cop
2) Silence -> Mason first 24 hours
3) Cover -> Godfather
4) Roleblock -> Jail
5) Pardon -> Unlynchable for 1 cycle

Yeah well I'm sorry if it turns out that I shouldn't have used it. I thought something good would have come of it...
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 00:29 GMT
#3826
On April 01 2015 09:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Well I went to eat dinner and saw we ended up at Night 2 and Crossfire faked his own death. To much WIFOM man....
@Crossfire: Did you learn anything from Day 2 and if so what did you learn?

The things I noticed is that Keirathi actually did work looking at my meta to determine if I would bus. He legit did the work there because I remembered the stuff he was talking about. Whether he would do that work as mafia idk.

Sep also seemed to care about my flipped role and seemed to care about it as is so it seemed like he believed it. Outside of that I'm not too sure.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 03:25 GMT
#3986
On April 01 2015 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
The other side of that is that if he was shot by an anti-town 3p then they wouldn't claim the shot on him regardless (the flavor text seemed a little dark right?) but on the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for him to make up a story like that IF he was shot and resurrected somehow.

Ask rsoultin. I told her my kill flavor beforehand. I told her immolation on the pyre, but changed it after that to immolation upon the altar because that sounds cooler lol.
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 03:28 GMT
#3988
On April 01 2015 12:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 12:25 Crossfire99 wrote:
On April 01 2015 12:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
The other side of that is that if he was shot by an anti-town 3p then they wouldn't claim the shot on him regardless (the flavor text seemed a little dark right?) but on the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for him to make up a story like that IF he was shot and resurrected somehow.

Ask rsoultin. I told her my kill flavor beforehand. I told her immolation on the pyre, but changed it after that to immolation upon the altar because that sounds cooler lol.

Oh you think I should ask this one other person to corroborate your story in a game with an anti-town faction of at least 4 or 5? Yeah I just don't think that's gonna be helpful.

Yeah you should trust everyone this game because this is a caller game and there are no mafia...
Crossfire99
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1529 Posts
April 01 2015 03:30 GMT
#3993
On April 01 2015 12:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I appreciate the thought Crossfire, but turn your attention to items more pressing toward clearing your name - like finding the odd interactions you CLAIMED your whole play was specifically designed to garner.

Read the thread please. I answered this like twice already.
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