EPTOn April 07 2015 07:41 Holyflare wrote:
but i am 3p and you brought this loss upon yourself for being assholes
but i am 3p and you brought this loss upon yourself for being assholes
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On April 07 2015 07:51 Holyflare wrote: i will flame you with fiery vengeance after this game for afking town, mark my words As if you haven't flamed enough people already. | ||
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On April 07 2015 07:52 Holyflare wrote: fuck off kita you are mafia and literally just pushing my buttons on purpose Aperture Mafia 4: This Time it's Personal  | ||
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On April 07 2015 07:59 Sepulchre wrote: Hey guys what's going on snarfs, obi, onegu, hts, bh all on hf. 1 min remains | ||
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Might be a while for a flip. | ||
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Anyways, looks like gg. | ||
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I'm not sure if town actually was capable of lynching batsnacks on day four, but we should have. HF was just being so obnoxious that he was able to get under everyone's skin to a point where most of the town was sick of it. I shouldn't have let him get to me, but I was tired of the flaming from a player who honestly didn't seem to have a purpose for doing so. I kinda question how he played things out considering how easy it would have been to just claim Moriarty and have BH lynched early on in the game. I know that this has been brought up a ton in the past, but there really isn't a good reason for JAT or HF to have a combined 100 page filter. Discussing things is fine, but a lot of the posts really didn't accomplish anything. I don't mean to attack JAT because he was a good town leader, but when you have a limited amount of time to play each day, it just demotivates you. Even I found myself spamming more than usual this game. On a side note, I was finding so many breadcrumbs that simply didn't exist. At one point I PM'd rsoul a riddle thinking she was the riddler and HTS a random phrase thinking she was Robin. I was also really paranoid that damdred had to kill me as deadshot XD I think my reads were fairly decent this game, which I'm only bringing up because of how miserable I have been in my past couple town games. I've seriously been pushing mislynch after mislynch for the last year or so. It's really been a while since I've been able to be fairly right. I almost never have any luck with meta so coming up with the d1 BH post was kinda surprising. I really should have pushed it later in on the game, but the 3P Moriarty threw things off. I was 3/3 on my scum list post with bats, sep, and VA, but I did a pretty poor job pushing things in the thread. It was just so tough to find a good time to do so, on D2 we have the day ending early, D3 we have the easy damdred lynch, and by D4 the game was close to over. I also think I had could have done a better idea of sharing my thoughts more often, rather than sending out PMs. For me, I found it pretty frustrating how often people were calling me mafia based on some type of paranoia read. I haven't rolled mafia since March 2013, yet I always seem to have trouble getting people to trust me. I'm sure there are others that are probably better at mafia than town that deal with the same thing. It's just annoying to be told that you're mafia because you're still alive when there really that is out of your control for the most part. Night actions seem to go pretty poorly. That was pretty unfortunate. On the topic of role claims, there are two sides of this. One, a lot of the mafia team was figured out essentially to process of elimination for who hadn't claimed. On the other hand, it was way too easy for mafia to figure things out. I think you have to find a line in between for what is useful to share. A lot of people just sent me their role as soon as I asked on N1, which was pretty silly. If I had been mafia, I would probably have access to all but VE/yamato/xfire or something like that. I enjoyed the flavor of my role with the whole witnessing my parents death thing, but I got a bit unlucky picking 3p HF day 1 and then day two ended before I could submit LS. On day three I made a mistake not going with JAT or keir. I was under the impression that yamato would save JAT, but obviously that wasn't the case. There were some really cool roles this game. I enjoyed the setup, even if it seemed apparent that town didn't have much of a fighting chance for most of the game. | ||
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On April 08 2015 09:15 Holyflare wrote: Kitaman don't even talk to me about flaming. It was lylo and I gave you free mafia and was literally the only player in the game trying to analyse anything only for a bunch of afk tits to say lololol let's lynch hf. I pleaded about 500 times for people to stop and actually talk about my analysis and instead you didn't. It's also ridiculous for me to claim day 1 when there's a sherlock a watson a lestrade and i have no idea what any of their win cons or powers are. I was on batsnacks the entire cycle up to the last 5 minutes. You were the one that was refusing to give us the vote that we needed and talking about holding the game hostage once we reached 5 votes on batsnacks....adding fuel to the fire about the HTS lynch and calling me mafia any time I showed up to say absolutely anything. I understand playing towards your win condition if you need to get BH lynched and yeah we shouldn't have lynched you at the last moment, but stuff like this really gets old quick when there is literally no reason for you to be bullying people like that: On March 29 2015 02:03 Holyflare wrote: i don't care if you're just going to be a whiney bitch On March 29 2015 05:22 Holyflare wrote: you're all shit posts On March 29 2015 11:36 Holyflare wrote: Or you're just terrible and arrogant like usual. On March 30 2015 03:32 Holyflare wrote: why do you love to be an obnoxious prick all the time On April 06 2015 11:04 Holyflare wrote: no it's not at all you tool On April 03 2015 11:27 Holyflare wrote: Vote me you fucking coward. On April 07 2015 05:40 Holyflare wrote: holy fucking shit there is no way you are this useless kitaman On April 07 2015 08:00 Holyflare wrote: useless shit town | ||
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On April 08 2015 09:30 Half the Sky wrote: <3 <3 <3 Kita. Forgive me? Please?  Oh there is nothing to forgive. I'm sure I've called people mafia incorrectly far more times than I've been right. Plus it is silly to hold grudges. Even that lovable HF guy I can't stay mad at | ||
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On April 08 2015 09:41 Holyflare wrote: It's mylo, arguably the most important time in the game and the entirety of the last 2 pages of your filter is yoh ignoring everything that I was writing to just comment with things about mod confirmation which would never ever come and how I'm confirmed mafia for being subject to mod mistakes. You didn't even humour me for a chat about anything. Regardless of what you think and you could quite clearly see i was getting irate with the thread for not responding to me at all, all you ever did was needlesly antagonise someone trying to solve the rest of the game. Perhaps it came down to perspective. I felt that batsnacks was the correct lynch because you take what you are given and then re-evaluate afterwards. The whole "VA needs to kill batsnacks tonight so lets let him live" thing seemed pretty nonsensical so it didn't seem very important to me to talk about alternatives. I happened to have a town read on HTS, although it was mostly due to PMs and I really struggled to find any reasoning why so I guess I could have tried to be more outspoken about that. With BH, I agreed with almost everything you were saying, except the unclaimed Moriarty existing. You obviously knew your role so that was pretty straight forward from your perspective. That was also a rough cycle for me activity wise because of real life stuff so I could mostly pop in the thread every once and a while. I suppose I could have chatted with you, but I don't think my opinion would have changed much. I probably should have tried a bit harder to convince you to vote with town with assurance that we'd go after your target aftewards. | ||
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On April 08 2015 09:47 Holyflare wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/481138-aperture-mafia-4-this-time-its-personal?user=Holyflare&page=41 Read this page up to 45 and realise that every time you returned you said absolutely nothing useful other than to antagonise me while i was trying to solve the game and make people talk. Well I mean I think it is unfair that I didn't say anything useful during that period. I didn't mean to antagonize you (well maybe a little ), though I will admit I didn't trust you at all, especially with JAT's track suggesting you were Moriarty. I think you were more interested in figuring the game out, thinking about the next couple cycles, and perhaps taking a bit more of a risk with the d4, while I was more focused on the safe route, getting d4 right and then looking at the flipped mafia to get a better picture of the rest of the game.+ Show Spoiler + On April 06 2015 07:26 kitaman27 wrote: I doubt I'd buy any new claim considering he already had his chance, but yeah lets see what he says. On April 06 2015 11:09 kitaman27 wrote: Or VA is mafia and you're leading a switch off a claimed mafia. On April 06 2015 11:30 kitaman27 wrote: Therefore sep can be mafia with a town HTS, but a you can't have a town sep with a mafia HTS. On April 06 2015 12:14 kitaman27 wrote: We don't base our lynch on two claimed third party players, who both have a chance of being mafia. Town has kp and protective roles left for night actions. Take the mafia that is given to you with batsnacks. On April 06 2015 12:32 kitaman27 wrote: So if VA fake claimed, his fake claim was pointed out to be false so he fake claimed a second time, and now with his third claim you're willing to base the outcome of the game on what he says? On April 06 2015 12:43 kitaman27 wrote: Well I'm voting batsnacks and so is snarfs and obi. I think you guys can figure out which side is correct. On April 07 2015 02:41 kitaman27 wrote: If batsnacks is confirmed mafia, why would you even consider believing a word he says? On April 07 2015 05:32 kitaman27 wrote: How is it convenient for him to get a batsnack mislynch if you're saying batsnacks is mafia? On April 07 2015 05:36 kitaman27 wrote: And how would BH be Moriarty? You're saying he is fake claiming the role of his scum buddy lestrade? If lestrade wasn't one of the two players doing checks, you don't think marv wouldn't show up and say "uhhh guys, this role doesn't exist"? On April 07 2015 06:13 kitaman27 wrote: VA shows up saying that we can't lynch bats with a 3p win condition that doesn't even make sense...and town suddenly decides that they need to let VA or HF determine who town lynches. On April 07 2015 07:25 kitaman27 wrote: I assume it's something like this? I would you're swapping to bats? Bats (6): Kita, BH, HTS, Snarfs, Sep, Onegu HTS (5): HF, OWS, Xfire, Bats, VA | ||
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On April 08 2015 10:04 Damdred wrote: When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol. I think fake claiming a non-confirmable role early on as mafia is really the way to go. You did a good job gaining trust at that point, though just curious, why did you decide to claim the win condition on killing gordon when you knew the mafia team would have to kill off LS sooner than later. I think you could have gotten away with things if you claimed something like "I need to kill gordon and the joker (or some other role that was unlikely to exist". I makes it seem like you are a fair 3p since you have to go after a player of each alignment and gives you a reason for being around after LS is dead. | ||
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