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Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 04 2015 21:59 GMT
#5636
End of night post:

batsnacks
Half the Sky
Maybe: VE

Will explain more tomorrow assuming I'm not dead.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 04 2015 23:07 GMT
#5648
GG.

GL town.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 00:28 GMT
#6569
GG everyone.

And look, when I said "We should probably be lynching VA instead of Damdred. Why is he giving his life up like this? Whatever the reason, it's probably something bad for town", I was right!

It's too bad that HF was moriarty and refusing to claim. BH would have been an easy lynch too.

I did have Cav marked down as town though. Don't remember why, but WP sir.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 00:33 GMT
#6574
On April 08 2015 09:12 kitaman27 wrote:
For me, I found it pretty frustrating how often people were calling me mafia based on some type of paranoia read. I haven't rolled mafia since March 2013, yet I always seem to have trouble getting people to trust me. I'm sure there are others that are probably better at mafia than town that deal with the same thing. It's just annoying to be told that you're mafia because you're still alive when there really that is out of your control for the most part.

To be fair, I'm still scarred from The Game. <3
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 00:45 GMT
#6582
On April 08 2015 08:43 GreYMisT wrote:
But yea I will be talking about this game and the Aperture series/Hosting themed games in general on the next mafia podcast. So please leave any thoughts here. I am particuarly interesting in things that you found confusing about your role or things that you thought were really cool about the interactions. I would also like to know if there was a mechanic in your role that you found to not be fun to use.

Another thing I want input on is in trhead notification. In chrono trigger and Aperture 1 there was a lot of notification in the thread if an ability was used (such as learning when a yugioh card is played or a pokemon dies), as well as a lot of ##Command abilities. Do you guys find that you wanted these?

I really enjoyed the roles and such as a whole.

Some constructive feedback on my role specifically:

Largest Army: No (reasonable) townie should really ever use that ability. Granted, I never asked for clarification of what "controls the lynch the next day" meant, in a game like this with all of the night actions and KP flying around, a no-lynch is just bad. Even if I had perfect reads, I wouldn't have even considered using it to save myself and I 100% know that I am town. I can't even think of a realistic scenario where it would be worth using.

Longest Road: Excellent ability. No complaints there, just sucked that I wasn't able to use it effectively. That was on my for telling BH that I was going to use it though. I should have known something was up when he just immediately said he would trust me after he had been calling me scum all game

The cards: I got clarification from geript about how my cards worked. I would have had to not only predict who would be alive (and still have a useful ability) 2 nights into the future, but they also would have had to give up a full night of actions to get an anti-roleblock. That's kind of asking a lot, I think.

Using them for roleblocks could have been fine, though!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 00:51 GMT
#6586
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.

There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 01:04 GMT
#6595
It is pretty interesting how close this game was to falling apart for the scum team even though the end result doesn't make it look close.

If one or two things would have gone even very slightly differently, it could have been a really really close game.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 01:06 GMT
#6597
On April 08 2015 10:04 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.

There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything.


When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol.



I thought the image I posted was pretty appropriate <3
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 01:15 GMT
#6605
On April 08 2015 10:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 10:06 Keirathi wrote:
On April 08 2015 10:04 Damdred wrote:
On April 08 2015 09:51 Keirathi wrote:
Honestly you guys should just stop bitching at each other. We lost the game, who cares. Get over it and play the next one.

There's no need for pointing out each other's mistakes. It doesn't accomplish anything.


When you were talking sense I had to turn up the bullshit and confusion lol.



I thought the image I posted was pretty appropriate <3

I have no idea how anyone could still believe his story that day ^^

Not sure why you're directing that at me?

I certainly didn't believe his story. I thought taht the most likely explanation was that he was giving his life up to save VA or that he had a role that powered up by getting voted, remember?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 01:20 GMT
#6610
I wonder how the game would have played out if people would have switched to VA when I said that though :D
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 01:21 GMT
#6613
On April 08 2015 10:19 Holyflare wrote:
What would yamatos role ever accomplish by the way...?

Could get one-shot abilities back. And/or items I guess?

I'm not sure there were even a lot of abilities worth trying to get back?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 03:41 GMT
#6638
On April 08 2015 12:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 04 2015 01:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 02 2015 22:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi boys. I'll get to this game this phase sometime. Pinky swear.

What happened to this?

I got to it. I wanna lynch VA/BH.

Oh look. VE solves the game and gets shot for it again.

Isn't that kind of mafia's job!?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 03:50:05
April 08 2015 03:43 GMT
#6639
Oh yea, THAT's why I had Cav down as town and just ignored looking again. LS's check had him as town.

Even though I knew it wasn't 100% accurate, it seemed not worth it to think about him until the end game.

Also, random insanely good luck that bats framed OWS night 2, or did you guys know that's who he was checking beforehand?
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 04:16 GMT
#6647
On April 08 2015 13:02 Crossfire99 wrote:
GreY, how did you envision a town using the Strong Bad role? I couldn't figure out what to do with it and did the best that I could lol, which everyone didn't like haha.

Could you not have just flipped some variation of your actual role?

I think that would have been immensely better. The way you used it just made it HARDER for town, not easier. I'm not sure that we gained anything from your "gimmick".

Town already has less information than scum. And it's not like scum even have to react to one of their teammates dying via NK.

I dunno, was just a weird ability and weird situation all around I think.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-08 08:49:05
April 08 2015 08:33 GMT
#6666
On April 08 2015 17:01 phagga wrote:
However, what means something is that BH is a claimed DT (or had access to DT information), and was still alive on D4. That should have rang any alarm bells. LS got NKed N2, so why was BH still alive?

I think you're greatly missing the point.

Assume for a second that BH was town. What information is he actually getting from his role? He *MIGHT* be able to catch someone lying about their role, but for the most part the "role type" says absolutely nothing about whether someone is scum or town. If I had been scum and i knew town had an ability that could check role type, I don't see why I would particularly want to kill them just because of their role.

LS's role was completely different and way, way, way stronger. The reason he died was because his role was strong. BH's was mediocre on average, and just weak compared to other roles.

But, the real reason BH wasn't lynched didn't have anything to do with that anyways. The real reason he wasn't lynched was because of the (fairly logical) assumption that a Moriarty refusing to claim was probably scum, and that it didn't make sense for scum to have a pure role cop AND a "role type" cop.

I'm not sure why HF didn't put it together earlier, though. :D

On April 08 2015 17:01 phagga wrote:
JAT, I was surprised you gave your death mask to ObiWanShinobi. You didn't trust your own red check on Vayne, you didn't trust BH's red check on Vayne (which was legit, despite BH being mafia), but you trusted the greencheck on Obi although it said in LS role PM that the checks might have been tempered with? That didn't make any sense to me.


Even now that we know VA and OWS were both scum, I would *STILL* argue that we played that situation right. The redcheck on VA meant absolutely nothing without any way to confirm the target. 0. Zip. Nada. It was basically saying "There is a scum in this game." And knowing whether marv checked VA or not completely changed the result of JATs check.

From a statistical standpoint, I would even argue that it was very, very unlikely that LS's check hit a frame target. It's hard to quantify it mathematically since we obviously aren't just dealing with randoming someone out of the player list, but in all the time that I've played mafia, I could probably count the number of times that a cop check has hit a frame target on one hand.

It's easy to sit back and say "gosh you played that badly" from the sidelines when you know the correct answer, but I don't think the way we handled that was bad at all.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 08:49 GMT
#6669
On April 08 2015 17:41 marvellosity wrote:
why didn't you fuckers just kill VA for me?

Why didn't you just tell jat you were checking him!
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 08:53 GMT
#6671
On April 08 2015 17:52 marvellosity wrote:
I told you he was mafia.

But notlazy marv doesn't check people that he knows is scum
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
Keirathi
Profile Joined May 2012
United States4679 Posts
April 08 2015 08:57 GMT
#6672
That said, I think we still would have lynched him day 2 even without knowing for sure if you checked him.

Then day 3, Damdred did a good job of throwing enough BS into the thread to make people lynch him instead so that VA would get to use his ultimate.
My dear friend if I have gone pants on head, you have gone socks on ears!!! -ShiaoPi
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