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On April 04 2015 03:16 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 03:15 Keirathi wrote:
Yes. Everyone who doesn't agree with JAT is scum. Woo! Explain to me in which world it is better to risk the game on a random other lynch to let a single townie survive this day. Explain it to me in detail.
I don't even fucking disagree with you.
I'm just worried that for the big picture, this auto-lynch makes things worse for town. Nothing about his play today makes much sense otherwise.
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Like you've got to be blind or dumb to not realize that something about this doesn't feel like a normal scum-got-caught lynch.
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Man if everyone is using stuff in the thread, I want to get in on it.
##Development Card: Knight
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On April 04 2015 04:27 Blazinghand wrote:
ok but assuming I AM telling the truth, it's probably like 80%+ that marv checked VA right?
No because that's not how marv thinks.
He MIGHT have checked VA if he wasn't feeling very confident on his read, but I think it's much more likely that he would have checked someone he wasn't sure about and/or he didn't think he could read well. A scummy lurker or something.
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Aw JAT is cute when he's angry.
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I fought your Damdred lynch and I'm in your probably do not lynch list? Astonishing.
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On April 04 2015 07:59 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 07:59 Keirathi wrote:
I fought your Damdred lynch and I'm in your probably do not lynch list? Astonishing. How dumb to you think I am?
I dunno but if Damdred flips scum and not 3p, I would probably lynch me 
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On April 04 2015 08:10 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 08:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, not only did he annoy me with these fake ass lurker spikes - how come HE IS THE ONE HANDING OUT SOULFRAGMENTS? What's up with that batsnacks? He must have copied me with evo. It says he starts the game with 5 abilities, I see 6 abilities listed. It also says he can't target mafia.
That's not what that ability says at all.
Damdred had items that he had to give away. He couldn't give the items directly to his teammates.
Whoever had the item had to use it on someone else and THEY got an ablity, not Damdred.
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On April 04 2015 11:14 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 02 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I wasn't trusting of these item so I picked one person who iw as suspicious of due to his power we talked about in PM Rsoultin and one person iw as heavily town reading but someone else was suspicious of. I used the power during the start of night and RSoultin was stripped of his PM powers showing that he was town and kita was allowed to continue his showing that he was anti-town. Who was the person that was PMing with Damdred, suggesting they were suspicious of me?
It was the opposite.
I was PMing with Damdred and he was saying that he thought rsoultin was scum.
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On April 04 2015 11:24 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2015 11:16 Keirathi wrote:On April 04 2015 11:14 kitaman27 wrote:On April 02 2015 05:56 Damdred wrote:
I wasn't trusting of these item so I picked one person who iw as suspicious of due to his power we talked about in PM Rsoultin and one person iw as heavily town reading but someone else was suspicious of. I used the power during the start of night and RSoultin was stripped of his PM powers showing that he was town and kita was allowed to continue his showing that he was anti-town. Who was the person that was PMing with Damdred, suggesting they were suspicious of me? It was the opposite. I was PMing with Damdred and he was saying that he thought rsoultin was scum. I was wondering about this part "one person iw as heavily town reading but someone else was suspicious of."
Oh, I think I've been reading taht quote wrong the entire tie. I thought it said "one person I was heavily townreading but someone else I was suspicious of".
Either way, he still may have been referring to me? I told him the exact same thing I told you when you PM'd me on night 1.
"You're (kita) a bit of a wildcard. I don't have much reason to scum read you, but also I entirely think everything you've done so far, you're capable of as scum."
Which I said in thread at the end of night 1 anyways.
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On April 05 2015 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Generally to everyone who hasn't already done so:
IF YOU DON'T FULLY CLAIM YOUR ROLE AND ACTIONS TO ME UNTIL DEADLINE I WILL CONSIDER THIS A SCUMCLAIM!
There is 0 excuse not to. I am 100 % confirmed town. If you don't want anyone else to know tell me but I have to know.
How's that?
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Yea, it has definitely been changing order.
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On April 05 2015 02:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 02:45 Keirathi wrote:On April 05 2015 01:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Generally to everyone who hasn't already done so:
IF YOU DON'T FULLY CLAIM YOUR ROLE AND ACTIONS TO ME UNTIL DEADLINE I WILL CONSIDER THIS A SCUMCLAIM!
There is 0 excuse not to. I am 100 % confirmed town. If you don't want anyone else to know tell me but I have to know. How's that? Damdred gave me lurker spikes night1. Damdred cannot give items to mafia. And even if that wasn't the case if you want to tell me that my interactions with damdred yesterday were mafia/mafia then I don't know that to tell you.
I'm just playing devil's advocate here because I REALLY hate when people try to call themselves confirmed town:
1) We don't even know for sure that you had the spikes because they didn't actually do anything.
2) Scum still has a busdriver unless you and Damdred were both scum and made up the whole bus thing together. But, more realistically, there is a busdriver, which potentially means that Damdred could have given his items to his teammates through the bus mechanic.
And yes, I do know for a fact that Damdred's power was bussable because when I asked about how my power worked, it was told to me that it would work on basically anything that could also be busdriven, and Damdred's item generation thing was specifically pointed out as an example.
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On April 05 2015 03:28 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On April 05 2015 03:15 justanothertownie wrote:On April 05 2015 03:11 strongandbig wrote:
Kita has persuaded me in PMs that he shouldn't be a lynch target tomorrow. I'm not 100% convinced he's town but I am convinced that his alternative explanations for the thigns I thought made him scum are reasonable. As much as I can, I will be holding his filter to a higher standard starting tomorrow (in terms of pushing objectives and scumhunting).
I also sent some thoughts about some players to him but I see no reason not to share those in thread:
- batsnacks I haven't really read as trying to be helpful or reasonable in the thread; scummy but I would have to thread dive him before committing to a lynch
- while batsnacks has kind of jumped out as being antitown I have no impression of sepulchre, that probably reflects badly on both him and me.
- VE looks shitty but sometimes he just plays shitty. I just skimmed his filter, I actually kind of like his reasoning on crossfire (that he put more effort into looking good re-entering the thread than he did into actually making use of his "gambit") but other than that there's a lot of stuff I don't like - especially that he's jumping from tunnel to tunnel without really caring what happened to the previous tunnel. Actually, I really don't like his filter - if you're town he's probably scum. Even if you're scum, he isn't playing like town but sometimes he just does that and I don't really know how to evaluate it. (I know there's no evidence that hosts actually balance vets but I still believe they do).
- I haven't seen anything that makes me think yamato isn't town
- VA - I haven't really seen anything super convincing. I mean, he was marv's main scum read so we should probably lynch him just for that. This BH thing could be a double bus, I guess.
- xfire - idk there, like I think it was weird that he sent me his pms without anyone asking greymist and without letting anyone know he asked greymist, it made me think maybe he was in a scum QT with greymist; but I also think it was probably towny of him to take the initiative there and send them to me. He hasn't been very effective but I'm not sure if I should expect him to be, and he's linked in some way to the sherlock circle thing. I guess I wouldn't want to kill him but if someone made a case I would be open to it. Any opinion on HTS? I can read her filter but it's hard because I've never played with her before. After a quick scan of her filter, it looks like her posts are more reasoned/thoughtful than others I could name, nothing super jumps out at me but I haven't done a super deep read or anything. Is there a case I should be considering? I've read some people say they have meta reasons, like she's less active or invested or whatever than in town games, but obviously I can't evaluate that since she joined after I went on hiatus.
In particular, take a look at how she reacted to the thing Damdred claimed to use that blocked rsoultin's PMs but didn't block Kita's, and then how she reacted when Damdred claimed to watch Slam and saw kita/xfire/<whoever else> visit slam but she should have known that she used her claimed ability and Kita couldn't have been watched at Slam.
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On April 05 2015 03:36 strongandbig wrote:
Also - I want opinions on this. I propose that there are three factions, one of which has each sherlock. BH in some way knows that VA is on the other scum team. That would explain his tunnel and would let us kill BH without a claim from moriatry.
I remember from Aperture 2, the third faction had the player list order manipulating powers. And we know that the player list has been changing order.
But meh, I don't think there's any real evidence that there's a third faction. There might be, but either way, we still have to find everyone who isn't town.
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On April 05 2015 04:20 justanothertownie wrote:13/4 Would be my proposal.
Confirmed.
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All of this talking in code is fun!
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On April 05 2015 06:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Keirathi you around?
I'm back.
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Might be better? That doesn't sound very reassuring
Should I maybe wait?
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