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On April 03 2015 03:49 Damdred wrote:
Hey guys, i'm going to explain my role in detail at this point and why I've been half telling the truth at points. This will most likely cause me to be lynched but that's ok. I'm still debating whether I should retire today or not and i'll explain this in a bit as we go.
Firstly I will explain the mechanics and itemization I have with my role without quoting from my pm. I start the game off with four items in my inventory, I have a bullet, a gun, a stealth suit and a Vest. I have the ability during the night cycles to load my rifle with the bullet to use my stealth and my vest is a passive ability that I have but can pass off. I can also pass off each of my items If I pass off one of my items like I did d1 I lose the opportunity to do anything else during the night cycle.
My opening action N1 was to load my rifle, but talking and getting threatened by JAT I claimed to JAT and under further interrogation Kita as well. And as such I am not in possession of my rifle at this moment in time, HOWEVER I am in possession of the bullet at present. The items got really messed up D1 so its quite possibly scum is just sitting around with an empty rifle on 0 KP because I kept the KP power. So town shouldn't have to worry about that to much at this point in time.
Last Night I used stealth and found some interesting results that i'll talk about in a moment. I'll talk about my wincondition now.
My wincondition is this, you win the game completion of your accepted contracts at points in the game. When your contract dies you have the option to leave the game and gift a .5 KP to any player of your choice, if you do not leave the game you accept another contract and on completion you retire from the game and are able to gift a 1 KP shot to anyone in the game of your choosing on exit.
I have been hesitant and I hinted about this to LS and Koshi roughly I should of told HTS in full so she could back me up.
Currently I have the information who my next target would be if I stay in the game, and i'm tempted to take it so that I can deliver a full KP to someone town as I suspect my target is mafia aligned at this point in time.
IE my target is Moriaty if I decide to accept and go for the full KP instead of .5.
Any questions or thoughts?
@Bolded part: ???
Also, FWIW, I believe you're telling the truth. But I'm not entirely sure that it does town more good than harm for you to stay in the game unless you have some good idea of who Moriarty is.
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EBWOP: Oh, that's discounting numbers. If there's 6 scum, then town could be pretty close to losing if worst-case scenario stuff happens?
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@HtS: That link you posted was a recap of Aperture 1.
I played in Aperture 2. It was like...a 15 player game or something? There was 2-3 people in a third faction, 2-3 scum, the rest town. But for some reason it's not listed in the "Themed Games" list in the database thread. It is in my games played list though.
Aperture 2: Part 2 was the one you called Aperture 2. Which was really aperture 3. This is aperture 4.
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On April 03 2015 04:22 Half the Sky wrote:
The numbers I pulled were straight from the database thread. Unless the statistics reported to Kitaman were wrong.
I don't know why the title was called Aperture 3 then, confusing.
It was the third part of the recap of aperture 1  Look at the date of the post.
Aperture 1
Aperture 2
Aperture 3
...why did I just spend the time doing this. It doesn't even matter
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On April 03 2015 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I know I was stealth'd on Slam last night somehow
What does "stealthing" do?
On April 03 2015 04:24 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I know I was stealth'd on Slam last night somehow Yup. Your goal was killing me. You observed me killing WoS
That reminds me. Why  ID* you kill WoS? How does that fit with your claimed win-cons?
Also, why do you think his goal was killing you? Wasn't his first contract to kill LS? And now his contract is to kill moriarty? Are you moriarty?
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Disregard stealthing question, it was answered while I was looking up who damdreds first contract was
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On April 03 2015 04:37 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 04:35 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2015 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I know I was stealth'd on Slam last night somehow What does "stealthing" do? On April 03 2015 04:24 Alakaslam wrote:On April 03 2015 04:20 Damdred wrote:
I know I was stealth'd on Slam last night somehow Yup. Your goal was killing me. You observed me killing WoS That reminds me. Why ID* you kill WoS? How does that fit with your claimed win-cons? Also, why do you think his goal was killing you? Wasn't his first contract to kill LS? And now his contract is to kill moriarty? Are you moriarty? I thought WoS was Lavos, or possibly one of the party. Killing a chrono trigger character would fulfill my wincon all right
Ah, the "kill a former GreYMisT character one. Gotcha.
Also I'm still confused by that statement "Your goal was killing me"??
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On April 03 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Kita, Sep and Cross visited Slam last night.
I also am probably staying in game to not force the game into mylo
I don't think you make it any easier for town by staying to be perfectly honest.
And since VA was lying about his role and it's quite unlikely that any town would have given him a way to survive a day vig, then he is probably scum and we're almost certainly farther from mylo.
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On April 03 2015 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote:On April 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Kita, Sep and Cross visited Slam last night.
I also am probably staying in game to not force the game into mylo I think you are lying. Oh yea? Who am I lying about? I did also visit slam last night. Because I tried to track LS and got redirected to slam. Slam visited WoS - surprise surprise.
Why in the world would you try to track LS who was almost guaranteed town and whose results would post to thread when he died? :o
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On April 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 04:47 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2015 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote:On April 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Kita, Sep and Cross visited Slam last night.
I also am probably staying in game to not force the game into mylo I think you are lying. Oh yea? Who am I lying about? I did also visit slam last night. Because I tried to track LS and got redirected to slam. Slam visited WoS - surprise surprise. Why in the world would you try to track LS who was almost guaranteed town and whose results would post to thread when he died? :o Because I did not fully believe him and wanted to confirm he said the truth.
This makes no fucking sense.
It was outed to the thread that he would announce ALL of his checks to the thread when he died. Therefore mafia literally COULDN'T LEAVE HIM ALIVE. Tracking him was completely useless and I have a hard time thinking you didn't think that through.
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On April 03 2015 04:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 04:50 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2015 04:48 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:47 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2015 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:42 Damdred wrote:On April 03 2015 04:42 justanothertownie wrote:On April 03 2015 04:40 Damdred wrote:
Kita, Sep and Cross visited Slam last night.
I also am probably staying in game to not force the game into mylo I think you are lying. Oh yea? Who am I lying about? I did also visit slam last night. Because I tried to track LS and got redirected to slam. Slam visited WoS - surprise surprise. Why in the world would you try to track LS who was almost guaranteed town and whose results would post to thread when he died? :o Because I did not fully believe him and wanted to confirm he said the truth. This makes no fucking sense. It was outed to the thread that he would announce ALL of his checks to the thread when he died. Therefore mafia literally COULDN'T LEAVE HIM ALIVE. Tracking him was completely useless and I have a hard time thinking you didn't think that through. Yes, this is all true if he is town which there was no way to be sure of.
If he would have been alive today, then you could have made the argument that he was scum and tracking him last night would have made sense.
But there was literally 0 chance a town LS would be alive today. The ONLY way he would be alive would be if he was mafia. You don't need a check for that.
ugh, I'm having a hard time articulating why this doesn't make sense....
His role being outed to the thread was 100% self-confirming. Wasting your track feels really strange and not like something I would expect from a town!jat.
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This whole thing smells fishy.
Kita: who did you target last night?
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On April 03 2015 05:15 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 05:11 Damdred wrote:On April 03 2015 05:10 Half the Sky wrote:
LS claimed when, D2? Shit I don't remember now offhand and I have to leave soon again. He claimed d1 I believe He claimed D1, and nothing from JAT except a null read. This is weird. Just doing a ctrl F search in his filter for LS, and there's not a lot of explicit mention of him on LS at all, other than others' quotes. Not sure if anyone who interacted with him in PM land can even support a proper rationale for checking LS. I know I can't. Interactions with JAT were limited to role hunting. I wouldn't be surprised if HF was right here. JAT/Crossfire/Kita scumteam, and JAT's knowledge of my role prevented Kita from fully outing himself after I targeted him. FML.
How do you explain that Damdred has a check of kita visiting slam when you said you redirected all of Kita's actions to yourself?
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On April 03 2015 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
Seriously lynch the shit out of me to confirm it.
What the hell is your gameplan here? You don't seem to want to survive very much for a survivor?
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On April 03 2015 05:19 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 05:16 Keirathi wrote:
How do you explain that Damdred has a check of kita visiting slam when you said you redirected all of Kita's actions to yourself? I told about 4-5 people what I was doing. Check my filter. I even said it was likely that there could have been a mole in there, so as scum, he could have had advance warning. As a possible result, I could have gotten roleblocked, who knows.
Roleblocks are notified.
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On April 03 2015 05:25 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 05:10 Keirathi wrote:
This whole thing smells fishy.
Kita: who did you target last night? Nobody -_-
Fuck me.
Why do I feel like I'm the only fucking person in this game not lying about something :o
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On April 03 2015 05:35 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 05:31 Damdred wrote:
Kita just said that he either visited nobody or visited everybody.
we need him to explain that, it could mean hts was messed with by someone in the group she told or is lying herself Nope on the lying part. If I was redirected or tampered with, something of some sort would have likely happened to me based on someone else taking action and not Kita even though I targeted Kita. If Kita was town and some scum in my group that I informed wanted to tamper with this I could have been killed or had some adverse effect to frame Kita especially as I told multiple people what I was doing. The fact nothing happened could indicate he was tipped off and chose to do nothing. It is more likely to explain an outcome using the lesser number of actions. And the least number of actions would be one - myself alone, with Kita holding back or not doing anything.
Do you have any idea what kita's role is? I don't, but I know I have a role that I refuse to use. And I've had roles in other GreYMisT games that I couldn't do something every night.
I'm not sure how/why you immediately jump to him claiming to not do anything as being scum.
Especially when there's info from damdred that says he DID do something, but your caimed action didn't happen?
This whole thing is really weird.
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On April 03 2015 05:51 kitaman27 wrote:
At any point did slam bring up the two planeswalker thing to anyone prior to the reveal that there was a second planeswalker?
This?
On April 02 2015 17:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Or you can kill the Planeswalkers! I don't like the Planeswalkers unless they save my ass which they can't because they are powering up their ultimates
Oh
And time traveling who are you dude? Action on me it will be funny
That was like 10 hours ago or something. When was the second planeswalker revealed? I dont remember
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Anyways, I'm going back to this because it's easier to think about than all this role bullshit and people lying:
On April 03 2015 03:38 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2015 03:37 Keirathi wrote:On April 03 2015 03:32 yamato77 wrote:
I'm all for lynching vayne today.
##vote: vayneauthority What changed from yesterday? On April 01 2015 03:33 yamato77 wrote:
I have a hypothesis on who killed Hapa, but it's not really important.
I also have reservations about lynching VA, and they are important. This feels like a horrible idea. Unfortunately majority lynch makes this game hard.
Would people be opposed to lynching someone like damdred/batsnacks/BH? I have bad feelings about all 3. I realized Vayne attempting to play the game is actually a scumtell
Why's that? I didn't really read through the games, but his longest filters tend to be town games. Not saying you're wrong, I'd just like a little justification.
But mostly, the progression of your read is really, really weird.
On March 31 2015 05:07 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2015 05:02 Half the Sky wrote:On March 31 2015 04:55 yamato77 wrote:
I'd much prefer if we talked about crossfire, btw. HtS just isn't mafia. I think we should. Sleeper scum likely. So you agree with my response? Also, to finish my last post, I read VA's filter and I've concluded that I hate both him and chez for it. Neither is a town read for me. I definitely feel like at least one is scum.
On April 01 2015 03:33 yamato77 wrote:
I have a hypothesis on who killed Hapa, but it's not really important.
I also have reservations about lynching VA, and they are important. This feels like a horrible idea. Unfortunately majority lynch makes this game hard.
Would people be opposed to lynching someone like damdred/batsnacks/BH? I have bad feelings about all 3.
On April 01 2015 03:38 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 01 2015 03:34 justanothertownie wrote:On April 01 2015 03:33 yamato77 wrote:
I have a hypothesis on who killed Hapa, but it's not really important.
I also have reservations about lynching VA, and they are important. This feels like a horrible idea. Unfortunately majority lynch makes this game hard.
Would people be opposed to lynching someone like damdred/batsnacks/BH? I have bad feelings about all 3. You will need to explain why it is a horrible idea. Because we have no real concrete evidence suggesting that he's mafia. He also pinged crossfire literally all of D1. Yes he's capable of that as mafia but I remain thoroughly unconvinced. AT THE VERY LEAST, we should be talking about other people anyway, as wasting the day by sitting on this VA lynch is a poor idea.
But I thought you had concrete evidence n1? You said that one of VA and chezitwo had to be mafia. Chezitwo flipped town, and there was a potential red-check on VA but you don't want to lynch him anymore and think there's reason he might be town?
In that span of time, VA made about 10 posts or so. I'm not going to quote them all, but none of them are really something that would necessarily make me thing VA was town if I already thought he was scum.
Then the next mention is the
On April 03 2015 03:32 yamato77 wrote:
I'm all for lynching vayne today.
##vote: vayneauthority
one.
Yea, it's weird.
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On April 03 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
Sorry not exiting game.
Yes cross you took a general statement and made it about you exclusively. Obviously the only two people who I saw were Sep and kita which means one of,then is if you aren't lying which... why would you be death framing ls?
You should exit the game. Whatever good you claim to think you're doing, you're not. It is 100% better for town if you leave.
Not leaving is claiming scum.
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