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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 10 2015 02:28 GMT
#1561
Any vigi that isn't shooting vivax is just flat out silly by the way. I'm not sure I need to make a case why.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 10 2015 02:33 GMT
#1562
Also Batman doesn't shoot people...
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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 02:49 GMT
#1563
Damdreds Analysis Of People In Case he gets Shot during the night by Town Vig for being Bad: (sorry townies)

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
Palmar (0) -
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Rsoultin (0) -
ObiWanShinobi (0) -
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Koshi (0) -
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
Yamato77 (0) -
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

0m 0s until deadline. Currently DreadReturn is set to be lynched.

The first thing that i'm doing here is coloring in the confirmed town DreadReturn as green as he flipped.

I am also going to color myself green because I am confirmed to myself even if my play has been spotty at points due to being out so much which I apologize for especially if vig shoots me tonight.

Now to the heart of the matter

Damdreds Analysis Of People In Case he gets Shot during the night by Town Vig for being Bad: (sorry townies)

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
Palmar (0) -
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Rsoultin (0) -
ObiWanShinobi (0) -
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Koshi (0) -
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
Yamato77 (0) -
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

My first green marks are Ritoky, Palmar and Yamato. They are my strongest town reads at this point in time going forward,

Ritoky is partially a soul read/meta read. If you compare this game to Guardians of the Galaxy when he replaced in or Mafia Down Under you can see a sharp contrast, also you can look at Imperial Mafia or Season of a witch. It is a vast difference if you compare the games you see a stark contrast between the scum games and this game. He actually has good thoughts here for instance even though he was wrong on DR he picked out a great observation on that question he asked me and how it just didn't flow well with the posts.

Compared to his scum game he really is missing the super angry list post and how serious he is as scum. Really strongly town read Ritoky.

Palmar is really strong this game, he opened the game up and it reminded me of Horns of Africa where he sees something he thinks is scummy and goes after it quickly and hard. he is trying to push the thread towards what I consider to be a good place especially early when the game is still forming and its inbetween the serious and the silly and gives us something to actually talk about in this situation in GB.

He really pushed his ideas forward in the thread and I like the direction hes going, his tone is good to me also and hes constantly re-evaluating his reads.

Yamato is putting forward some of the best effort I've seen him put into the game in a long time. The case on DR even though it was wrong it felt really sincere and well thought out. He asked good questions and when people started pushing other candidates (namely myself and obi when he sheeped) Yamato kept calling attention to his case and specifically asked us both to answer him.

When obi answered yamato specifically quoted the part of the case he wanted to talk about I believe and really wanted an answer. And going into the lynch near the end he wanted to jump off DR and lynch someone else he didn't want to go on someone he thought was an easy mislynch but someone he felt could be really scummy. Just because of effort and the way he went about the day left me thinking he was really towny.

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

Rsoultin I wasn't totally sure of early on just because i'm horrible about reading her. Rsoultin does really stick to her guns though in the thread to my eyes going towards end of day she really wanted his top two lynches to get attention and potentially get lynched and she showed an extreme wiliness to consolidate and not just afk and leave her vote fuck all near eod and reading through the only reason his vote is on Vivax is because shenanigans were possible at that point, she refused to vote GB and seemed to have doubts about DR at the time.

I really dont' want to spend a ton of time on GB because I've talked a lot about him during the rest of the thread. Look in his other mafia games and compare then look at what I said and see if I have any points about whats going on, even if you think its way weak just see if I have points. I think GB is really scummy still to me his reads really don't have much going on.


Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

ObiwanShinobi is a scum lean for me currently. I went into the night thinking that Obi was a town read for me because of his tone early on in the game and his wiliness to call my points on GB good. I have a really soft spot for people who call my posts good I suppose. however when I looked through his filter this post really caught my eye and sounds really superficial and fake to me

On April 09 2015 13:06 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Should have stuck to the GB vote honestly.


It just strikes me as weird because he seemed so sure and his quick jump off GB really strikes me as weird in this situation. Also a loto f his posts read antagonistic towards HF and others to a point. Early in the thread when he also got the chance he decided to afk and leave the thread instead of getting involved in the early talk which I know has been asked to me earlier and I think its scummy in retrospect.

Pretty sure obis a bit more than a scum lean.

I actually like Koshi this game, he seems to have a direction in his postings in my mind. Hes also revisiting his reads and explaining them, he pushes his thoughts and pushes people to answer his question specifically towards vivax at points. His cases really feel sincere and his tone is really good and towny. I'm really sold on him being town.


Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

This will possibly be my most controversial read and I've read his filter three times almost. I went into the night/analysis phase thinking that HF was scum, however some things really changed my mind when I read his filter. He really pushes his own ideas during the night phase and tries to find answers to questions and figure out peoples reads going forward.

Look at how he addresses me about my read on Edn trying to figure out where I am and trying to find out if my read is scummy and not changing or if I have a legitimate way. Though I still think the lynch on DR and HF lack of care especially at the end was concerning ive seen it before he has really good follow through and his response to being tunneled pushed I feel has been pretty good.

Eden I am scum reading currently but I have some misgivings on another read through. Eden has his town anger going on that I generally pick up on and town read him for but there are some things that still really bother me.

These things that bother me are the way that he came into the game and the way that his read develops on me for instance it bothered me, and his post on GB still reads sort of waffly to me.

He does push what he thinks though and revisits his read on me and looks at it so honesty a bit of it is omgus granted and his revisit does ignore that i'm asking GB to show the question i'm avoiding which he doesn't take into account.

Eden is probably the person i'm most wrong about at this time if i'm wrong. I sort of feel like i'm looking through a clouded view of Eden because of his scum read on me, I've never seen him this angry as scum when I confronted him early in the game.

Vivax (2) - Rsoultin, DreadReturn
GlowingBear (2) - Damdred, Palmar,
Eden1892 (2) - Yamato77, Ritoky,
Damdred (1) - GlowingBear,
DreadReturn (6) - Vivax, Koshi, HolyFlare, Onegu, ObiWanShinobi, Eden1892

Onegu- I am pretty null on Onegu right now, his list posts are kind of meh and he doesn't feel connected sometimes in the game. But i'm nto sure that makes him scum.

Vivax- Originally going into near EoD I didn't see why Vivax looked so bad, DR pointed some things out to me when I asked about it and I reread his filter recently. If you compare it to Vivax recent town games its missing a lot of thoughts and explanations to a point, usually he has a lot more thoughts in what he posts. Look in guardians of the galaxy he pushes his thoughts and gives good explanations even if some of the theories don't pan out or ideas are wrong he still has them and shows them in the thread.

I don't see that as much this game, he says something gives a really short explanation why maybe just a sentence and I don't feel the push or drive to get what he thinks into the thread or into the spotlight.

Currently I have four scum reads/leans in Eden, Obiwan, Vivax and GB. Obviously one of these has to be wrong also I think its highly unlikely that we had three scum up for lynch at the same time. I'm sort of feeling like i'm the most wrong about Eden currently, so that leaves me in a world of GB, Vivax and Obiwan.

I sort of like this team as GBs initial push on HF got obiwan the ability to escape the thread and vivax sudden appearance at eod right as he was being discussed. Plus his lack of anything during the night, DR said some really good things about him also.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 02:49 GMT
#1564
that took al ot longer than I thought it would.

any thoughts about it? questions?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#1565
shit 1s gotta change something
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 10 2015 02:56 GMT
#1566
ok, now ill maybe read that before deadline but if damdred bothered with all that while hes sick hes prolly town
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 10 2015 02:57 GMT
#1567
On April 09 2015 07:45 Koshi wrote:
So I am moving to gb. First of all because the vigi is obly balanced if it is on mafia side. So if he is town vigi we are doing the set up a favor
Second of all. I like my case on gb. It are a couple too many bad townie moments. And they are not the bad townie moments a towie has trying to solve the game.

DR is still very mafia for me. and somewhere it hurts lynching biggest filter who is 20 hours afk
.
. But fuck it. Celebrity lynch bitches!


lol ^ shit tier reason to townread koshi to the end of time xP

he was soooo certain there was only a mafia vig he argued back and forth about it...i remember facepalming half a dozen times doing it

(this is for you onegu; i know most people aren't questioning koshi's alignment)

also, rereading damdy's filter (before his voting analysis) started getting the feeling that even though i rarely see him tunnel, he really was pushing that gb lynch pretty strongly at EoD

ppl started getting cold feet on dr and he demanded a switch to gb, then seemed to get pissed when ppl wanted to go other directions

then the analysis wasn't terribad :/

might upgrade you to a townlean damdy, cause i can believe the sick could be hampering your play

i expect proof on your gb metareads, though
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 10 2015 02:58 GMT
#1568
Yay damdy not so bad anymore!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 10 2015 03:00 GMT
#1569
You're wrong about palmar though.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#1570
(i do not remember this horn palmar at all. i remember him basically announcing he wasn't going to read, sheeping marv, claiming mafia and trolololing to the point that when we nkd him people were like o.0 wtf?)
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#1571
So in my list HF I have Vivax, Obiwan and GB as my final triad. Who would you take out and put Palmar in for in that situation?

I'm not sure that i'm wrong necessarily it reminded me a lot of Horns when he went after GB like he did, and when he went after you thinking town v town it looks a lot like how he went against Marv at points in XXX to me. I can see town Palmar doing this.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 10 2015 03:03 GMT
#1572
(isn't it deadline?)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:04 GMT
#1573
On April 10 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
(i do not remember this horn palmar at all. i remember him basically announcing he wasn't going to read, sheeping marv, claiming mafia and trolololing to the point that when we nkd him people were like o.0 wtf?)


Maybe i'm thinking of the wrong game, Eden claimed Miller d1 early to draw out the real miller (marv) and I reacted weirdly to him and questioned his claim rescinded and Palmar pushed me until I was almost lynched d1 then I was mod killed so idk what palmar did after that
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:04 GMT
#1574
still an hour to go
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#1575
On April 10 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2015 07:45 Koshi wrote:
So I am moving to gb. First of all because the vigi is obly balanced if it is on mafia side. So if he is town vigi we are doing the set up a favor
Second of all. I like my case on gb. It are a couple too many bad townie moments. And they are not the bad townie moments a towie has trying to solve the game.

DR is still very mafia for me. and somewhere it hurts lynching biggest filter who is 20 hours afk
.
. But fuck it. Celebrity lynch bitches!


lol ^ shit tier reason to townread koshi to the end of time xP

he was soooo certain there was only a mafia vig he argued back and forth about it...i remember facepalming half a dozen times doing it

(this is for you onegu; i know most people aren't questioning koshi's alignment)

also, rereading damdy's filter (before his voting analysis) started getting the feeling that even though i rarely see him tunnel, he really was pushing that gb lynch pretty strongly at EoD

ppl started getting cold feet on dr and he demanded a switch to gb, then seemed to get pissed when ppl wanted to go other directions

then the analysis wasn't terribad :/

might upgrade you to a townlean damdy, cause i can believe the sick could be hampering your play

i expect proof on your gb metareads, though


Yea I'll find examples from the games or do you want links to check out the filter yourself
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 10 2015 03:05 GMT
#1576
On April 10 2015 10:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 10:14 Onegu wrote:
On April 10 2015 10:13 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On April 10 2015 10:12 Onegu wrote:
Is the GB/Damdred hard bus on each other real? I don't know you tell me!


Still have Eden and koshi as scum though


wat



Your supposed to tell me not ask me what...


The whole hard bus theory is a bit of a stretch, no?



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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 10 2015 03:06 GMT
#1577
On April 10 2015 12:04 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:
(i do not remember this horn palmar at all. i remember him basically announcing he wasn't going to read, sheeping marv, claiming mafia and trolololing to the point that when we nkd him people were like o.0 wtf?)


Maybe i'm thinking of the wrong game, Eden claimed Miller d1 early to draw out the real miller (marv) and I reacted weirdly to him and questioned his claim rescinded and Palmar pushed me until I was almost lynched d1 then I was mod killed so idk what palmar did after that

that was horn yeah. palmar got n1'd because rsoultin and jat are godmode trolls
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
April 10 2015 03:06 GMT
#1578
oh and i guess koshi was still on the scumteam at that time
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
April 10 2015 03:07 GMT
#1579
On April 10 2015 12:03 Damdred wrote:
So in my list HF I have Vivax, Obiwan and GB as my final triad. Who would you take out and put Palmar in for in that situation?

I'm not sure that i'm wrong necessarily it reminded me a lot of Horns when he went after GB like he did, and when he went after you thinking town v town it looks a lot like how he went against Marv at points in XXX to me. I can see town Palmar doing this.


I would remove gb and read my post on palmar. Gb's night posts have felt a lot better don't you think? Obi has potential to swap with eden but I'll have a ponder on that for a bit.
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
April 10 2015 03:07 GMT
#1580
On April 10 2015 12:06 Eden1892 wrote:
oh and i guess koshi was still on the scumteam at that time



Cuz people didn't listen to me until my flip. Sounds familiar...
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