On April 09 2015 11:53 Holyflare wrote: The guy literally flipped his strongest town read for no reason even though nothing has changed since all his posts spent defending gb. This was only when the gb wagon had sufficient support enough.
On April 09 2015 11:02 Onegu wrote: Why aren't we lynching koshi? Like he scum reads me hen ever follows up until I'm null for no reason, he only has a five page filter no original reads and only 2 posts of substance.
@eden you know my koshi read is on point, get on it unlike last time and lynching town Onegu instead...
Read his filter seemed pretty towny. Few points for koshi to answer when he returns:
Had eden as scummy, rsoul posted a list with eden as town and koshi's next list has eden top town. Then koshi posts saying eden case on someone was scummy then talks to eden about gb like trying to convince a towny person.. Weird sequence. Explain.
Koshi answer plz
Eden scummy? I don't remember when I thought that. So I can't answer both questions. I don't think I ever wanted to lynch Eden over the 3-5 names I always gave.
can someone give me something on GB other than afk?
and that bullshit joke/not joke argument that palmar pulled out his ass? i don't think that the case is alignment indicative for palmar necessarily but the argument was shit, DR said how it was shit, I said how it was shit, GB said how it was shit...more people said how it was shit yet somehow people still like it
On April 10 2015 00:51 Koshi wrote: Hmm. Rsoultin her list is also very viable. It is not my list. But I can see how it possible. My self confidence in my own lists is on a lifetime low.
Anyway. Vig shoots Vivax?
DISCLAIMER: I still didn't read the 400 posts before the lynch. And those posts are extremely important and valuable.
Not in this game btw. It's a cumul of last 2 games.
If I had to kill 3 people in this game I would take my list.
I am just saying as a benevolent ruler I am willing to consider other people their theories more than I usually do.
This is the funniest thing I ever saw in my life. The second time I watched it I just couldn't stop laughing. This is without doubt the funniest thing on youtube.
Vivax is mafia. Eden could be mafia. Damdred could be mafia.
I think my case on GB was legit but it really might be just bad play from GB and not mafia like. I do not want to lynch him anymore.
Onegu needs to step out of the tunnel and look around. There are reasons in the thread that I am not the lynch for the day. There were reasons in the thread that I was not the lynch yesterday. If you cannot see these reasons, you are going to get (p)lynched one day. Just because you (Onegu) are pushing me on moments that don't make any fucking sense if you are a townie trying to do the best for town knowing Koshi is not going to get lynched. I am just saying that scum!Onegu is taking a very easy route this game. and for some reason it is working very well for him. However, also he is not the lynch for today.
I do not completely understand the night actions yet. I also now just realized Onegu claimed jailer and I actually believe that so disregard a lot of the things I said previous post.... So dumb.
I can see Damdred claim scum RB on himself as scum. However, I do not want to lynch Damdred before I know why he would do it as scum. Scum is not retarded, they don't randomly go RB lynchbait unless they really thought he was vigi/jailer.
Damdred as scum would only be able to claim safely if scum did rb rsoultin. She somewhere spoiled she was going to shoot Vivax if she was vig... I don't know that scum would kill + rb rsoultin though.
HF might have been shot by town? Palmar got saved? If that is the case, scum could also have RB Holyflare. Was he going to shoot Vivax or Palmar? I think Vivax.
On April 10 2015 07:54 Holyflare wrote: Have a good night hopefully the vigi is someone sensible
Vivax best shot Damdred probably good shot Palmar mafia Obi probably mafia
Someone in that list is wrong but being bad so don't really care. If you wanna yolo you can yolo gb. Shooting me will solve nothing other than mafia palmar/obi etc agenda and as you just saw palmar is ready for the field day my flip will bring.
Damdred is stuck in the past. Made a big post on him about his reads not fluidly updating. Don't know if afking in part due to being mafia or not but feels off and not cool damdy.
Obi's only scum read in this entire game is apparently me (and gb lolololol yeh can see that from his 0 reasons) and he flat out refuses to explain why about me to anyone. If I die make him explain his read. If it involves anything in Palmar's case lynch him with absolute fire because he scum read me before Palmar's case and those events even happened.
Vivax absolutely a waste of space and when threatened with vig shot trolled and his only scum read is... Ritoky....? Get the fuck outta here.
Palmar is pushing false information. Really just read his case and then the events of the deadline. He says I'm just pushing my interpretation of events but that's not true. He selectively pulled out quotes from my filter to fit his mafia narrative case and left out all the quotes where i perfectly explained myself. Check out his you scum read gb and then town read him for no reason thing. I had so many reasons that I repeated many times. Check it plz plz plz.
Never ever follow yamato. Pick someone with a sensible list like rsoul. She has a good game sense and jk should absolutely be on her tonight. Her list was one of the ones I agreed the most on.
Don't lynch rsoul/ritoky/probablyonegu/koshi was completely absent today but townyish d1 so don't let him fall off but otherwise keep him here
Be absolutely wary of yamato since he is pushing me for palmars case but he was the one commandeering the dr lynch and forcing people onto it too. He said he'd try hard as any alignment and last time he tried he got town read all d1 by people but was mafia.
Eden super underwhelming but not really sure if mafia at all. Seems pretty carefree to be mafia at the moment. Gb list post was super mediocre and contained barely any relevant game info but it's hard to hate it when all the scummy ppl pushed him and it kinda aligned with my/rsoul list.
If the town vig shot HF we know that HF his reads weren't as good as rsoultin and that Palmar likely got shot to frame HF. Anyway, we know that Palmar is town and that is the most important thing.
If the town vig forgot to shoot or got RB you shouldn't claim.
Vivax please stop jumping on every little thing without thinking it through. Really annoying. You got to understand that if you are town you are in a really really though position. Pretty insane actually.
I probably should not tell you that and see if you as self-aware townie would make a difference by solving the game, or that as mafia you are going to build filter and attempt to weasel yourself out of a lynch like that.
But because I like you and I know you can do pretty insane stuff as town you probably can't do as mafia I am going to take a risk here.
So yeah.
I am voting you. I am convinced you are the best lynch for today. I might change my view but then a lot of new information needs to enter the thread.
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote: So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here?
On April 07 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote: No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.
I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point.
This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi.
On April 07 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote: [quote]
Serious turn? They were joking at each other. How can the "wambulance" gather useful information? The most serious post here was about HF teasing obi. You disagree with this?
My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go
Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking. You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why?
which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding
I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi.
I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion.
Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia?
This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could.
Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful.
I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument.
So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads?
You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne
Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before
Several times when I was reading through that GB-Damdred-Palmar sequence Vivax chimed in and said basically what I was thinking about the things I was reading as I read them. It obviously doesn't make him lock clear town but it's generally a good sign when people are reacting the same way you are to the game.
I scumread him before because I put all the names of people who hinted I was mafia without voting me into a hat and pulled his name out. Lol Not literally but that was kinda my thought process and it wasn't trying very hard. This is though.
On April 10 2015 17:40 Vivax wrote: Koshi why do you try to use night actions to argue that Palmar is town with such confidence if you were thinking he was town beforehand. I have issues with the reasoning and the reasons to use that reasoning. I just don't see them.
I don't use the night actions to confirm Palmar his alignment. I just think the night actions with 2 vigs, a scum rb and a jailer hold a lot of information.
I believe town vig should claim his shot. Even if he shot Palmar. Only if he didn't shoot he should stay quiet. If the town vig shot HF, 1 mafia KP is missing and I am sure mafia would use the vigi immediately. This indicates that Palmar got saved or is mafia. I forgot about the mafia part for a sec. Bad from me.
So (mistakenly) I concluded purely looking from night actions point of view that Palmar was town for being shot.
Anyway Vivax, I am keeping civilized but you are boring me. I am not going to ask you questions anymore btw. On purpose.