EPTOn April 10 2015 09:05 GlowingBear wrote:
Onegu, this case on me is original. His thought process is clear, his points are objective, his writing is fluid. He actually entered my filter and tried to uncover my alignment.
I was already pushed before? Yes. But not with this much effort and comprehension of overall gameplay. This is an original stance against me.
The rest of his filter after the second half of day1 is like this. His thought process is in the thread, he takes original stances and reacts accordingly to events, in a way it feels natural. He takes the effort to look through filters and is interested in uncover alignments.
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On April 09 2015 03:26 Koshi wrote:
Eden. Do you think GB does more than scratching the surface?
Look at his initial HF is scum because teasing Obi. Nothing really came from it.
Look at when he townreads HF. At that point HF just started his game. Nothing else. Obi called GB rightfullyout on his townread.
Look at his Damdred read. Never was it real pressure. It starts on page 1 of his filter and when does it gets anything real? Does it at all?
Look at how he calls my entrance scummy. He gets then pressured on it and produces a false meta of a game that I never played. Never came back on this mistake. Is that a solving townie mindset? Anyway, he doesn't touch me anymore after that.
Then there are a SHITTON of random "hey you, what is your read on x" But never does GB do anything with the answer he got from that player, or the read given by the player. Because in the end he doesn't really produce any list or shows that he is PoEing this game.
These 3 posts just seem so fake. And it happened 3 times already. (obi callout on hf, wrong meta on me)
The reason why GB is voting Damdred is bullshit. Damdred called GB out on something LEGIT SCUMMY. Then he brushes it away a bit too easy.
Bullshit and fake. We have to drag out answers out of him? Why? Fuck you GB. You have to give them to us and then complain or stfu. Can't complain about people now playing when he isn't playing himself.
Bullshit.
you know he is calling you mafia the entire time right, Eden?
Anyway.
I don't believe GB is town. But maybe he is trying to solve the game. I don't know.
Best reason why I think GB is mafia ↓
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Eden. Do you think GB does more than scratching the surface?
Look at his initial HF is scum because teasing Obi. Nothing really came from it.
Look at when he townreads HF. At that point HF just started his game. Nothing else. Obi called GB rightfullyout on his townread.
Look at his Damdred read. Never was it real pressure. It starts on page 1 of his filter and when does it gets anything real? Does it at all?
Look at how he calls my entrance scummy. He gets then pressured on it and produces a false meta of a game that I never played. Never came back on this mistake. Is that a solving townie mindset? Anyway, he doesn't touch me anymore after that.
Then there are a SHITTON of random "hey you, what is your read on x" But never does GB do anything with the answer he got from that player, or the read given by the player. Because in the end he doesn't really produce any list or shows that he is PoEing this game.
On April 08 2015 04:23 GlowingBear wrote:
It is also odd that Palmar has no opinion on Eden.
It is also odd that Palmar has no opinion on Eden.
On April 08 2015 04:27 GlowingBear wrote:
It is.
Eden has posted very content less posts, but palmar treats him differently. This double standards reinforces the scenario where palmar is Mafia.
On April 08 2015 04:24 Koshi wrote:
No it isn't. I also have no opinion on Eden. Maybe a slight townread. But hey. Not posting doesn't help him.
No it isn't. I also have no opinion on Eden. Maybe a slight townread. But hey. Not posting doesn't help him.
It is.
Eden has posted very content less posts, but palmar treats him differently. This double standards reinforces the scenario where palmar is Mafia.
On April 08 2015 04:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Argh, too many scummy people
Argh, too many scummy people
These 3 posts just seem so fake. And it happened 3 times already. (obi callout on hf, wrong meta on me)
On April 08 2015 07:58 GlowingBear wrote:
You know very well I do 180 reads
Damdy, you can't be town this game.
I'm voting you.
On April 08 2015 06:52 Damdred wrote:
Theres a fw reasons I voted for GB, some of which was calling palmar mafia after town reading him and voting him over his top scum read at the time. His initial postings towards HF and obi felt weird and this is pretty well documented in my filter.
Ritoky is just a gut town read so far, hes pretty trolly and laid back which is a meta read.
But you dread I like your posts, like you just calling me out trying to get more reads I like that.
Theres a fw reasons I voted for GB, some of which was calling palmar mafia after town reading him and voting him over his top scum read at the time. His initial postings towards HF and obi felt weird and this is pretty well documented in my filter.
Ritoky is just a gut town read so far, hes pretty trolly and laid back which is a meta read.
But you dread I like your posts, like you just calling me out trying to get more reads I like that.
You know very well I do 180 reads
Damdy, you can't be town this game.
I'm voting you.
The reason why GB is voting Damdred is bullshit. Damdred called GB out on something LEGIT SCUMMY. Then he brushes it away a bit too easy.
On April 08 2015 08:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Eden your townreads are weird
Eden your townreads are weird
On April 08 2015 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.
This game is boring. I stated two or three times that Eden has problems in his scumreads and nobody asked me why.
Nobody is really trying to play this, sadly.
Bullshit and fake. We have to drag out answers out of him? Why? Fuck you GB. You have to give them to us and then complain or stfu. Can't complain about people now playing when he isn't playing himself.
On April 08 2015 13:22 GlowingBear wrote:
It was just a way I found to keep generating discussion. However, if he kept teasing obi, this would fit perfectly.
The thing is that his game thing seems like a good plan to me and it hardly fits any Mafia agenda. That's why I'm willing to call him town for now. The game have yet to begin, though.
On April 08 2015 13:12 Eden1892 wrote:
you don't think town!HF would just fuck with him for a bit at game start though?
I see where you're coming from but it doesn't really seem to have had the intended effect
On April 08 2015 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:
HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest.
He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town.
Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent.
On April 08 2015 12:08 rsoultin wrote:
Explain this please, GB ^^
On April 07 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:
This is actually what you like to do when you're mafia. Tease obi.
On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long
On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
more reads more knowledge more winning
why so sad?
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
more reads more knowledge more winning
why so sad?
Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long
This is actually what you like to do when you're mafia. Tease obi.
Explain this please, GB ^^
HF as Mafia would tease obi in order to guarantee a shitfest.
He enters in an argument with obi, obi gets angry because HF is nitpicking him and gives up / start arguing with HF in an useless discussion, disorganising town.
Check Hearthstone Mafia for a precedent.
you don't think town!HF would just fuck with him for a bit at game start though?
I see where you're coming from but it doesn't really seem to have had the intended effect
It was just a way I found to keep generating discussion. However, if he kept teasing obi, this would fit perfectly.
The thing is that his game thing seems like a good plan to me and it hardly fits any Mafia agenda. That's why I'm willing to call him town for now. The game have yet to begin, though.
Bullshit.
On April 08 2015 13:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before
On April 08 2015 13:39 Eden1892 wrote:
You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne
On April 08 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:
I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument.
So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads?
On April 08 2015 13:09 Eden1892 wrote:
I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here?
This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi.
This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could.
Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful.
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
I know this has been talked about already but: GB what was the point of this? HF and Obi looked like they were joking and then you suddenly seemed really seriously upset about it. You went on to say something about "deja vu" but I dunno what you're referencing. This post seemed a bit out of place so... what's goin on here?
On April 07 2015 13:37 Damdred wrote:
No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.
I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point.
No seriously what's the point of you pushing on hf when he's trying to get information out of someone. So what the thread took a serious turn you just drew the conversation away from potential information into more joking.
I don't see why a town would want less information in thread at this point.
This is similarly weird because I didn't see how HF was trying to get information out of anyone or doing anything really but fucking around. And I don't see how GB turned the conversation back to joking around? In fact it was kinda the opposite, GB got serious in a way that felt a bit off tonally when HF was joking around with Obi.
On April 07 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi.
I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion.
Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia?
On April 07 2015 13:55 Damdred wrote:
which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding
On April 07 2015 13:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking.
You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why?
On April 07 2015 13:44 Damdred wrote:
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My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go
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My post is the most serious. But you jumped in instead of seeing where it would go
Damdy, I made a joke. I didn't ask them to stop talking.
You're nitpicking something that has no significance. You also avoided answering my question. Why?
which part? How obi hash left the thread after you interjected and called hf mafia somewhat? We lost information idk what question I'm avoiding
I asked what you think of what I said about HF teasing obi.
I don't understand what kind of information you were expecting from that discussion.
Also, if you think that HF was getting information out of obi and that obi took the chance to get out of the thread because I said HF is mafia, do you think obi is mafia?
This is a pretty good sequence IMO by GB. Damdred never answers this from what I can see in his filter, there's this half-answer in Damdred's post when he returns but it's not really a direct response. I think that makes Damdred a little suspicious because his initial assessment about what GB was doing was wrong and it looks like he was just taking the chance to pile on GB when he could.
Based on these posts GB is actually probably town and Damdred is slightly suspicious. I haven't gotten to the part where everyone decided GB is mafia but I already think it's wrong, so that could be fruitful.
I had nothing in mind when I posted that, I just thought it was a funny thing to point out. The déjà vu thing is exactly that: I always see them engaging that kind of argument.
So, after these considerations of yours, what are your updated reads?
You are probably town, Vivax looks alright, Palmar looks not so good, Damdred looks not so good. Das it mayne
Explain to me why Vivax looks alright now and why you scumread him before
you know he is calling you mafia the entire time right, Eden?
Anyway.
I don't believe GB is town. But maybe he is trying to solve the game. I don't know.
Best reason why I think GB is mafia ↓
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Game balance indicates that there is a scum vigi and look here:
On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long
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On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
more reads more knowledge more winning
why so sad?
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.
more reads more knowledge more winning
why so sad?
Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long
Onegu, this case on me is original. His thought process is clear, his points are objective, his writing is fluid. He actually entered my filter and tried to uncover my alignment.
I was already pushed before? Yes. But not with this much effort and comprehension of overall gameplay. This is an original stance against me.
The rest of his filter after the second half of day1 is like this. His thought process is in the thread, he takes original stances and reacts accordingly to events, in a way it feels natural. He takes the effort to look through filters and is interested in uncover alignments.
It's not the point that his point are original it's hes reads aren't. Town koshi likes to have tinfoi hat theory's day 1
