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rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 18:20 GMT
#387
lol i never thought i'd miss the overly aggressive fount of all theories and fantasies no matter how wild :/

onegu-dude thank you for not calling me a bitch xP but i wouldn't have cared lolol

palmar is on a meta-breaking and assumption-breaking (read: sl shooting him, hard-bussing) run according to his goobery in the obs qt for guardians. how does that effect your read?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 18:31 GMT
#388
@koshi, reasons for your scumteam, por favor

@holyflare lol i may not go so far as a policy lynch, but this better have a point and soon xP i don't mind indulging you a bit on a whim and a hunch but a holyflare lynch is soooooo tasty

@obi so your only scumread is eden yet you were voting hf? what changed?

@damdy bby you may think i don't notice that next-grade-lvl buddying but it's a little blatant. come play with all of us in the sandbox

@palmar do your thing. your reads aren't terrible

@gb just cause i'm reserving judgement to see how close our thought processes are doesn't mean you can phone it in with impunity lol what do you think of this train forming on you boyo?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 18:41 GMT
#390
On April 08 2015 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Vivax: He is off.
Holyflare: I don't think I had a real reason.
GB: What Palmar said.


Vivax - How?

HF - who would it be if not him? (reasons please xP)

GB - so what palmar said and not what damdy said? what do you think about them interpreting GB's post completely differently, yet arriving at the same conclusion?

lol also i think koshi has mentioned trying to not be so UBER KOSHI SPAMMER AMAZING TOWNIE several times over his last several games (joat, the one that hasn't finished yet, etc. etc.) however you usually can't keep it bottled long xP i wouldn't mind posts of more substance even if you're determined to keep them few <3
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 18:50 GMT
#395
On April 08 2015 03:47 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I wasn't voting Hf, rsoul.


you're right lol i read that backwards

so no conclusion on the game stuff then?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 19:34 GMT
#408
lol i'm fine with rit

read the pictures xP

would also help to actually read onegu's lyrics, on that vein, palmar >>

mmmm, so i'm confused how a scummy hf is trumped by a null eden, obi

on that note i don't actually see eden as null, but i've seen nothing from obi to explain what is actually scummy about eden's posting ^^

palmar's reads were okay-ish

this dog truck thing i'm not seeing so much though :/ i'm with rit on palmar. just gonna give him room to do his thing
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 07 2015 20:02 GMT
#415
On April 08 2015 04:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I said Eden was scummy too, rsoul.


based on "complete lack of energy" ??
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 00:15 GMT
#478
uummm so

filter, as even when i'm not completely direct my thought process is usually clear

and if that's too much work, i'm getting ready to go on a road trip so...a more concise version will have to wait until later tonight or tomorrow morning before i leave ^^

i'm more curious why you lumped the four of us together GB xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 02:54 GMT
#502
yo gb, how long you gonna still be up?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 03:08 GMT
#507
On April 07 2015 13:32 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 13:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:27 Holyflare wrote:
On April 07 2015 13:26 GlowingBear wrote:
So, first page of the game and we already have an Obi VS Holyflare discussion. Sigh.


more reads more knowledge more winning

why so sad?


Because deja vù
By the way, I'm vigi again. Tell me your scumread so I can shoot him at night and shout at you all game long


This is actually what you like to do when you're mafia. Tease obi.


Explain this please, GB ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:12 GMT
#515
The RSOUL reads of SO MUCH WINNING part One! (broke this up into two parts cause meeeeh much work takes much time xP)

Townreads

Glowingbear is town. Like, obviously town. Ask me why if you can't figure it out, but note the word: obvious

Holyflare is probably town as well. Early observations on Eden/OWS on-point, noted the same things about OWS and yamato that I did. Can see town-motivation for the game but am not going to give anyone what I think he's doing, 'cause I may be seeing shadows where there are none.

Townleans

Dreadreturn analysis of Palmar's GB read spot on, some good pressure on Damdred/Yamato, but he has NO READS whatsoever. Which is concerning. Low postcount I can handle. No reads I can't. So only townlean for now.

Koshi...tone read mostly based on one post in particular that made me laugh. That said, his reads are disturbingly dissimilar to mine except for one key one. (Not that this makes him scum given past history). Waiting for that fire to ignite.

Nullish-town

Eden1892 blah entrance redeemed somewhat by analysis of players scumreading him, some relative lightheartedness (toneread) in his play and being observant, but the anger seemed a bit flat. Reserving judgment.

Scummy

Damdred's read on GB seems at best conf biasy, adding on what he can as he goes. Approves of Palmar despite Palmar's analysis being different from his, and when asked for other reads by Dreadreturn provides ritoky (lit. the easiest read for him to make as mafia given it's a "soulread" anyway and requires no explanation) and Dreadreturn for the pressure (meh, easy way to get a townie off your back is to townread them). BONUS!! he tries to say I'm scummy for not playing peacemaker when 1) I had been to a small extent and 2) in XXX his metaread was the exact OPPOSITE, saying I was scum because I was playing mediator
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:19 GMT
#519
cause no one is telling him why they think the game could come from a town hf

keep up eden xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:46 GMT
#530
On April 08 2015 13:40 ritoky wrote:
damdred most probably isn't mafia; but if he is, then he is mafia with dreadreturn.

[image loading]


lol why do you say that?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:53 GMT
#532
damn it all i'd just finished.

oh well

just gonna post a marv-like list of awesome right here and if y'all want more, ask


Town

Glowingbear
Holyflare
Onegu - my boi ^^
Eden - bumpted up for recent posts

Townish

OWS - the cluelessness is real <3
Koshi

Maybe Town?
ritoky - like the laidback approach but otherwise hard to read
dreadreturn

Null
Palmar - equal pluses and minuses but one post that tonally feels town so eeeeh

Scummy
Vivax - lack of commitment to reads on a whole, some weird waffling with no conclusions
Damdred
Yamato - goes from prob mafia on hf to don't give in to his stupidity? sniping. no explanation for reads


i'm cool with lynching anyone in the scummy section but can we please lynch yamato? -bats eyelashes-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:54 GMT
#533
On April 08 2015 13:48 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 06:45 DreadReturn wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:23 yamato77 wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:10 DreadReturn wrote:
On April 08 2015 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
On April 07 2015 20:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Palmar, being unfunny doesn't make me Mafia
If you think I had the intention of stopping discussion, you basically assume that I was protecting someone. If so, I'm automatically Mafia with one of them.
Thinking through a Mafia perspective, if I see two townies discussing, I won't interfere so they can tunnel each other.

So, you have to tell me who is my partner with them, or your argument simply doesn't hold water

Worst post in the thread award goes to GB for this pile of scummy shit.

Could you please explain how this post is alignment indicative?

It is both a horrible straw man and a pathetic attempt at defending oneself from accusations.

Your post on Palmar's post is also pretty bad. GJ.

Again, could you please explain how this post is alignment indicative?
All I see is an argument claiming that it is a low quality post, not an argument showing that it is a scum aligned post.

Same for your comment on my post.
You claim that it's bad - that's it? Am I scum for it? Is Palmar town for his post? Do you have any conclusions?


Damdred, could you give one town read that's not Palmar and a brief (like 1 liner) explanation for it?


[image loading]


lol rit sometimes you're smarter than anyone gives you credit for ^^ -stores that in the bank-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 04:57 GMT
#538
On April 08 2015 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rsoultin, yamato is probably not mafia.


lol he was supposed to be proving to me his awesome towniness this game

why is he probably not mafia?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 05:01 GMT
#540
On April 08 2015 14:00 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rsoultin, yamato is probably not mafia.


lol he was supposed to be proving to me his awesome towniness this game

why is he probably not mafia?


Because he's actually playing the game.

His posts aren't jaw-droppingly excellent but he's talking about stuff.


rofl

i'm sorry but if we all had the same bar you apparently have for him none of us would be mafia xP what exactly is he talking about? i see a lot of sniping and little-to-no explanation

what specifically makes you think he's town?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 05:07 GMT
#547
On April 08 2015 14:04 Vivax wrote:
Yamato is one of the most demotivated mafias on this forum, that's why.


xP and he specifically promised to try this game as either alignment in the same teamspeak session holyflare was referencing earlier

more to the point, all he's done is called a few posts horrible and bitch. are you telling me that's his towngame? cause if so I want some proof, please and thank you
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 05:09 GMT
#548
On April 08 2015 14:06 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On April 08 2015 13:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Rsoultin, yamato is probably not mafia.


lol he was supposed to be proving to me his awesome towniness this game

why is he probably not mafia?


cuz when HF came out with his plan:

yamato all like

[image loading]

and then some1 else be like vsing yamato abotu dat shit and he be like

[image loading]

mafia prob don't take such a vindicated stance so immediately esp in a neg direction abt HF's play.

hence why yamato is:

Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 14:58 ritoky wrote:
yamato -

[image loading]


i have a reason to disagree with this that i am not going to present att

you know apart from the usual wifom regarding an argument like this to begin with xP

but i do understand your position even if i don't agree with it -shrugs-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 05:17 GMT
#552
On April 08 2015 14:11 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 14:07 rsoultin wrote:
On April 08 2015 14:04 Vivax wrote:
Yamato is one of the most demotivated mafias on this forum, that's why.


xP and he specifically promised to try this game as either alignment in the same teamspeak session holyflare was referencing earlier

more to the point, all he's done is called a few posts horrible and bitch. are you telling me that's his towngame? cause if so I want some proof, please and thank you


You have to prove why he's scum if you think he's scum, instead of asking everybody townreading him to prove otherwise.


lol y'all's reasons for townreading him (with the possible exception of ritoky) are so weak it's hilarious. it's almost on the same level as the "va doesn't do shit as town" metaread. so. that said, i'm happy lynching any of the players in my scummy section and leaving yamato to a vig shot since he's a prime candidate

i'll present a case later. bed now. driving across the state tomorrow, but i should be on well before deadline

ciao folkets. if you've got questions or whatever feel free to leave them in the thread; i'll pick them up when i return
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 08 2015 14:05 GMT
#618
yay reads questions!

i only had half the players' filters combed through in the first post (not including onegu) but his filter includes reads as he goes through the lyrics that aren't terrible for the context and there are a couple posts in there that stood out to me as well...for instance eden says he wants onegu to claim mason so he can townread him and then he instantly claims mason...it's a light-hearted dgaf response (inb4 anyone claims that a player in their right mind would think claiming mason would earn an insta!townread and it's in any way scum-motivated)

yaaaamato that list post was actually pretty damn good :/ normally i'm not a fan of townreading someone off one list post but the analysis that went into it makes me not want to lynch you anymore lolol

i explained my damdred read in my earlier post...people are townreading him for squaring up to GB on something that wasn't even good, he townreads palmar for a completely different interpretation of GB's same post (though same conclusion on alignment) and otherwise has very few reads that have to be drawn out of him. or you can just read my first explanation in the posts koshi quoted

viva's reads are fucking ridiculous lolol and i like that koshi pointed it out. list post + bad reads = naughty corner
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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