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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 21:37 GMT
#3401
Yes, I know the score at this point.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:39 GMT
#3402
Ya well just talk dude. You have the decision in your hand. Vivax scumreads Damdre, Dam scumreads Vivax.

Regardless of who earned most cred throughout the game only one is the mafia. You have the chcoice.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:41 GMT
#3403
And with the choice comes the responsibility. For me it's enough to reread D1, for Dam it's enough to analyse votecount and talk to you like you're town. For me it isn't this easy but over the progress of the discourse I have decided that Dam is more likely scum, so now it's up to you.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 21:43 GMT
#3404
You didn't even look at Yamato all you did was take a fee of ny posts and post them.

You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:44 GMT
#3405
What happens at lylo? The remaining mafia, if he's experienced, has to show insecurity about the last option in order to not be identified as a commong bandwagoner. He has to pick out the target most likely to be lynched. Obviously a wifom part plays in here but if the mafia thinks that the pupper is predictable he will try to lynch the predictable target for the puppet.

It's actually no easy decision as it wasn't for me in my last lylo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:46 GMT
#3406
On April 24 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
You didn't even look at Yamato all you did was take a fee of ny posts and post them.

You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me.


What I did was reread D1 and simply find out what stuck out to me, and it was mostly you. No bias. As my bias would have tended towards yamato.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 21:48 GMT
#3407
On April 24 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
You didn't even look at Yamato all you did was take a fee of ny posts and post them.

You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me.

well, to be fair you haven't seemed too terribly interested in finding the last mafia ever since ritoky died

you've just... been here.
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 21:48 GMT
#3408
That's untrue your bias actually swung the other way last cycle as you made sure to show enough doubt.

D1 isn't enough to make any decision on. Nor was my push on GB fake or weak.

My day 1 was weak I'll admit that But it's what it is
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:48 GMT
#3409
Whatever happens is that if yamato is the last mafia he already won, Damdred is confirmed monitoring the thread with his last post while trying to not take influence on it unless he thinks it's necessary. So am I , but the necessity comes from the point of view that over the course of the day and the little discussion I (I*) led, that Damdred is the last mafia.

Not NKd, not intent on looking suspicious by being on the wrong side of the wagons.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 21:51 GMT
#3410
Good God I've had finals sick and at work. This has been one of my only chances to be here.

I really disagree that I haven't been trying to find mafia after ritoky. I pressured people, I thought it was vivax or a side of Obi. I voted for vivax People went to Koshi. Then no shot happened
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 21:52 GMT
#3411
On April 24 2015 06:51 Damdred wrote:
Good God I've had finals sick and at work. This has been one of my only chances to be here.

I really disagree that I haven't been trying to find mafia after ritoky. I pressured people, I thought it was vivax or a side of Obi. I voted for vivax People went to Koshi. Then no shot happened

Most of the discussion was driven by me or Vivax, actually.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:54 GMT
#3412
On April 24 2015 06:48 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 06:43 Damdred wrote:
You didn't even look at Yamato all you did was take a fee of ny posts and post them.

You didn't look at ANY of the other parts of the day. Or talk about Yamato whatsoever. All you did since before Obi died was start the shadow on me.

well, to be fair you haven't seemed too terribly interested in finding the last mafia ever since ritoky died

you've just... been here.


This post confirmes to me that I have been right on yamato being the town here. All he had to do was to just stay on me with his old confidence. He hasn't been right on everything and he hasn't been wrong on everything.

GB had 3 votes FROM ALL OF US on day 1. Now it's to decide who has been bussing him all the way. Is it the guy who expected to give him cred or get the cred? Or is the 2 guys who weren't that sure all the time. I think it's the latter.

Too clean play is as mafia indicative as the "wrong" play given that Damdreds irl issues most likely have been real.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 21:55 GMT
#3413
Idk how to answer about being on the wrong side of,wagons or right side since I pushed GB d1, shenanied onto GB d2 off Yamato when I didn't have to and pushed ritoky during the night meh.

I mean I think,my analysis n2 was really good and nailed ritoky.

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22414 Posts
April 23 2015 21:56 GMT
#3414
If Dam likes to reply that the posts that make no sense stem from him being high on painkillers, then he also has to admit that his scumread on scum has to stem from that. But the logic between the both is miles away.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 21:57 GMT
#3415
That would infer that I was sick at the start of the game instead of waking up covered in blood the day after, the day I disappeared for awhile- _-
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 21:59 GMT
#3416
On April 09 2015 11:58 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +

Why is DreadReturn so concerned with defending GB, and not with providing actual scumreads? It is a common mafia tactic to defend a scummy-looking townie that people want to lynch in an effort to appear active and to derail town's efforts at consolidating on lynches. Based on this, it isn't difficult at all to see mafia motivation in DR's posting.

Plus, he's a fucking smurf.


I think this is my favorite part of what I've read about DR,( I hate playing with smurfs and DR you should just claim honestly if you are town and care about the game going forward. )

One thing that I do like is the effort he puts in on some of his read posts, his Vivax read I disagree with and he says koshi already made a similar read and I'm trying to determine whether hes just parroting to look better as scum or hes actually doing things as town. I just don't see a lot of scum motivation going after Palmar like he did early or pushing Vivax when it was him on the block.

blegh

just blegh
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
April 23 2015 22:04 GMT
#3417
Idk what's wrong with that post meh I usually give town points to people who go after hard targets early, and his end of day will wasn't bad.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 22:09 GMT
#3418
On April 10 2015 02:26 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 02:22 rsoultin wrote:
-sits on viva's head-

whether you believe i'm the vigi or not, if he's town he'd do well to start looking it. for his own sake

idiot


Accurate depiction of a vig rsoult:

[image loading]

ROFL

gj viv
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 22:11 GMT
#3419
On April 10 2015 04:56 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 04:19 Holyflare wrote:
But i did scum read obi and yamato for not joining and that was part of it because you know... I clearly already wrote that. Comment on not me/game plz.


It doesn't matter, I thought this was your plan before you disclosed your reads, that's why I was so bold asking people to join it
You didn't reveal your intention but by being dodgy on not choosing a team shows that my idea WASN'T your intention.

Commenting on other things: I think the scum team is palmar/Damdred/Eden

Palmar tried to get me lynched over poor arguments. His pushes weren't pushes that tried to uncover my alignment. He just used an early post and pointed fingers at me. His questions were mostly rethorical. He didn't actively tried to evaluate my overall gameplay by navigating my filter. This is a Mafia trying to look like and aggressive townie. More than that, he came just after I was suspecting Damdred, in a poor way to discredit my pushes on him.

Damdred has his Mafia meta all over. Passive, disinterested, distorting facts, wishy washy. He knows my fameplay very well, he didn't have any evidence of one of my metas to start calling me Mafia so soon. He has the same stance as palmar: calls me Mafia but doesn't try to uncover my alignment. Doesn't ask me direct questions. He simply calls me Mafia and there's that. More than this, Damdred KNOWS I 180 as town A LOT but scumreads me for that. This single fact already shows that Damdred is certainly Mafia.

Eden is more like unflipped association, I admit. Palmar having double standards on my entrance an his is very indicative. Why was he ignoring Eden when he mostly did the same as me? With that, there is damdred faintly pushing Eden, but never actually trying to get him lynched. Damdred's vote stayed on me. Never on Eden. This "I would lynch GB or Eden but I prefer GB" is bullshit. Added to that, Eden's overall gameplay is uninspiring and his first list post reveals a complete apathy to the game. His weirdest townread was on palmar, that basically said "I haven't read him but he seems to be doing stuff". This is a very fabricated townread out of no good reason. He doesn't read me and call me null. Why?
His reads only got more substance after he was being called out, which is exactly what I would expect Mafia to do.

Now, I find obi suspicious for trying to get me revealing HF's game. It felt like he understood the purpose and was trying to get me talking so he could get away from not joining in. His insistence was just unnatural and his focus on only talking about it felt like he didn't care to give more information from him.

Vivax has been very uninspiring too and he has an okay shot on being Mafia. I have yet to read his filter to form a solid read though.

Koshi looks town to me now. Yes, he made a flawed case on me, but he actually tried to uncover my alignment by filter diving me and getting more information from what I post, which is townie. It reveals effort. His reads also feels original.

RSoultin looks town because she is actively posting and is inquisitive. She looks like she is actually trying to solve the game. The only down point is that she isn't taking strong stances. Like her attitude on "ok, we are lunching gb. Why?". If I am her obvious town read I would expect a stronger stance here.

HF was looking town until his game thing wasn't the thing I thought it was. His defense on me is weird and his push on Dread is completely off. Lunching the guy because he didn't reveal his name is silly. And by lunching him, he keeps me alive and the discussion wether I'm Mafia or not goes on. In the other hand, his attempts to tease me by calling me useless and awful sounded townie, since he knows I'm sensible to that shit and if I'm town I would be on his neck for this. This attempt to uncover my alignment looks townie to me. So, I have to evaluate him better.


does mafai GB double bus super hard or call his mafia partner "uninspiring"

doesn't even mention ritoky in this post LOL

zzz the WIFOM is real
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 23 2015 22:12 GMT
#3420
On April 10 2015 05:09 Holyflare wrote:
zzzzz yamato and obiwan most uninspiring players ever

fuckin HF man

we coulda lynched Vivax D1

and now I'm going to not lynch him again. at LYLO. Even though I've wanted to lynch him ALL FUCKING GAME

jesus I'm fucked.
Writer@WriterYamato
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