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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:01 GMT
#2901
On April 16 2015 00:00 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 23:59 Vivax wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:58 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:55 Vivax wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:51 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:50 Vivax wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:46 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:45 Vivax wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:44 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:43 Vivax wrote:
[quote]

GB pushed Palmar. What motivation does he have?

Palmar has wanted to lynch him since 2 hours into the game and GB's only play the entire game was to rabid-dog OMGUS


So the mafia motivation to help GB doesn't exist?

I don't think any sensible mafia player that knows with relative certainty that Palmar is the vig (and knows Palmar the player) would call Palmar scum, regardless of their teammate's predicament.

I mean, look at what happened to Eden.


So everyone who called Palmar mafia must be town.

Sound logic right here rofl

that is not what i said

but hey, dig your hole deeper, pal.


You did say that.
Sensible mafia -> doesn't call Palmar scum
Koshi called Palmar scum -> He isn't sensible mafia

Who's the sensible mafia then yamato?

You?


But I called Palmar mafia during D2.

Vivax called Palmar scum -> he isn't sensible mafia
He isn't sensible mafia -> He's some other kind of mafia.

What kind of mafia am I?

A really terrible one, we've already established that.


What if Koshi is sensible mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:01 GMT
#2902
I can do this forever yamato. Split your bullshit into syllogisms and just lead you around like a blind dog.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:05 GMT
#2903
On April 16 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2015 23:59 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:52 Vivax wrote:
Within 1 minute of distance Koshi says:

"If mafia vig ever shoots later on Palmar is mafia"

1 minute later:

"I townread Palmar too much to be considering that he carries KP"


I understand the second statement to be a hypothetical one in response to a question YOU asked him.

The first statement is also a hypothetical.

I don't see how stating possible (incorrect) hypotheticals makes someone mafia.


You are an idiot, read any basic experimental design book and come back.

Or you're a non-native english speaker trying to argue the finer points of language over a statement made by yet another non-native english speaker from a different country with a third player who is from yet another country, leading to this stupid discussion where you're unable to understand his logic, he's unable to adequately explain it, and I'm unable to convince you that you're just being stupid.

OR you're mafia.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:05 GMT
#2904
On April 16 2015 00:01 Vivax wrote:
I can do this forever yamato. Split your bullshit into syllogisms and just lead you around like a blind dog.

this only makes you look worse, pal.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:09 GMT
#2905
On April 16 2015 00:05 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 00:00 Vivax wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:59 yamato77 wrote:
On April 15 2015 23:52 Vivax wrote:
Within 1 minute of distance Koshi says:

"If mafia vig ever shoots later on Palmar is mafia"

1 minute later:

"I townread Palmar too much to be considering that he carries KP"


I understand the second statement to be a hypothetical one in response to a question YOU asked him.

The first statement is also a hypothetical.

I don't see how stating possible (incorrect) hypotheticals makes someone mafia.


You are an idiot, read any basic experimental design book and come back.

Or you're a non-native english speaker trying to argue the finer points of language over a statement made by yet another non-native english speaker from a different country with a third player who is from yet another country, leading to this stupid discussion where you're unable to understand his logic, he's unable to adequately explain it, and I'm unable to convince you that you're just being stupid.

OR you're mafia.


He isn't unable to explain it, he just prefers to pull the insult card to not have to do it.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:09 GMT
#2906
To really put the nail in the coffin, let's look at a Vivax scum game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/373946-tl-mafia-lviii?user=Vivax&view=all

Read this filter, and then tell me that you think he's incapable of playing this way as scum.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:13 GMT
#2907
On April 16 2015 00:09 yamato77 wrote:
To really put the nail in the coffin, let's look at a Vivax scum game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/373946-tl-mafia-lviii?user=Vivax&view=all

Read this filter, and then tell me that you think he's incapable of playing this way as scum.


6 pages of filter in a 210 pages game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:15 GMT
#2908
Btw since you understand Koshi's logic I'm sure you can explain it for him
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:15 GMT
#2909
On April 16 2015 00:13 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 00:09 yamato77 wrote:
To really put the nail in the coffin, let's look at a Vivax scum game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/373946-tl-mafia-lviii?user=Vivax&view=all

Read this filter, and then tell me that you think he's incapable of playing this way as scum.


6 pages of filter in a 210 pages game.

With over twice as many players (30) in a less spammy metagame.

Filter length argument is not a good refutation whatsoever.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:17 GMT
#2910
On April 16 2015 00:15 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 00:13 Vivax wrote:
On April 16 2015 00:09 yamato77 wrote:
To really put the nail in the coffin, let's look at a Vivax scum game

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/373946-tl-mafia-lviii?user=Vivax&view=all

Read this filter, and then tell me that you think he's incapable of playing this way as scum.


6 pages of filter in a 210 pages game.

With over twice as many players (30) in a less spammy metagame.

Filter length argument is not a good refutation whatsoever.


For me it is, ask Palmar.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:18 GMT
#2911
Let's take it to the next level, yamato.

If you're in lylo with Koshi and Obi, who do you lynch?
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:19 GMT
#2912
On April 16 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote:
Let's take it to the next level, yamato.

If you're in lylo with Koshi and Obi, who do you lynch?

We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:22 GMT
#2913
On April 16 2015 00:19 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2015 00:18 Vivax wrote:
Let's take it to the next level, yamato.

If you're in lylo with Koshi and Obi, who do you lynch?

We'll cross that bridge when we get there.


What do you think of Obi hammering GB then.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:22 GMT
#2914
Apparently you only like to shitfight and not talk reads son
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:23 GMT
#2915
Vivax, you need to be making a more convincing case on someone you actually think is mafia if you're town and want to win this game.
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:23 GMT
#2916
On April 16 2015 00:22 Vivax wrote:
Apparently you only like to shitfight and not talk reads son

Your read was crap.

I'm uninterested in considering Obi for at least 60 hours.
Writer@WriterYamato
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:25 GMT
#2917
No I've already seen enough.

I'll quote it for you:

"Koshi voted Palmar, I don't know why but he's sensible mafia so he wouldn't push Palmar as mafia"

Yamato's read on Koshi, to be saved for lylo.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22249 Posts
April 15 2015 15:26 GMT
#2918
Then Obi:

"I don't know about Obi, I'm uninterested in forming a read on him until lylo even though we already have 146 pages of game"
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:26 GMT
#2919
On April 16 2015 00:25 Vivax wrote:
No I've already seen enough.

I'll quote it for you:

"Koshi voted Palmar, I don't know why but he's sensible mafia so he wouldn't push Palmar as mafia"

Yamato's read on Koshi, to be saved for lylo.

[image loading]
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 15 2015 15:27 GMT
#2920
On April 16 2015 00:26 Vivax wrote:
Then Obi:

"I don't know about Obi, I'm uninterested in forming a read on him until lylo even though we already have 146 pages of game"

Am I mafia, Vivax?
Writer@WriterYamato
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