I was sad.
I really didn't think GB was mafia.
I don't remember the other wagon. I was on Palmar I think. But he was Vig and I cba. Ahh. I also was on Eden and it wasn't going to be Eden. I was on you. That wasn't happening. I don't know. I fucked off. I also thought I would come back but it was 4 am and I was suddenly really tired.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 13:05 GMT

#2624

Vivax is going to be town. Somewhat hilarious.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 13:06 GMT

#2625

I really hope ritoky is town just so that tomorrow I can read how Vivax got to chose between yamato and me. Will be great.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 13:06 GMT

#2626

No mafia. I meant mafia.

#noscumslip

Koshi

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April 14 2015 13:51 GMT

#2627

Nha. I really don't think Vivax is mafia. Reading some stuff he is proposing, like Palmar/Koshi/Ritoky scumteam. Then after that it is Yamato. The quote he brought on GB.

Looks a bit too much out there for scum Vivax.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 13:53 GMT

#2628

##unvote
##vote: Yamato

I have a bad feeling about Obi. Yamato on the other hand I can easily see being mafia. His tone if pretty angry during the first cycle.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 14:29 GMT

#2629

Ritoky I have no problem with tbh.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 14:46 GMT

#2632

On April 14 2015 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Ritoky I have no problem with tbh.

To lynch btw.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 15:42 GMT

#2634

Nha obi is town.

I really run with yamato/ritoky.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 15:46 GMT

#2636

Well damdie. You decide between yamato and ritoky. I like the idea they are both scum.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 17:27 GMT

#2639

I prefer to lynch yamato over ritoky because ritoky is not as poor today like obiwan and yamato. Which I really don't understand.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:09 GMT

#2643

I noticed myself.

You think that because I know that GB is mafia I attack rsoultin for being wrong on attacking Palmar?

Doesn't really overflow of the TMI tbh.

I recognize decent posts. rsoultin doesn't.

What can I say. I am awesome like that.

If I am mafia. I could do 24 different things there to protect GB. But I didn't. I just attacked rsoultin her stupidity.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:11 GMT

#2645

OH DANG

On April 07 2015 20:48 Vivax wrote:
She actually wants to make peace with the mafia

LOOK AT WHAT I FOUND VIVAX

TMI MUCH???

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:17 GMT

#2648

On April 15 2015 03:10 Vivax wrote:
I actually called out your mafia behaviour on D1 already cause only my post about him treating palmar as mafia triggered you to vote for GB but when asked for your read on him you said that it was what Palmar said, which is clearly BS.

What no it isn't?

Fuck you it isn't.

Now you are just lying.

I first voted for GB because he said something extremely dumb. It was so dumb that I thought it was townish. I don't know why I thought it. But I thought it. That's why I added a line.

But the reason why I had GB in my 3 reads had something to do with what Palmar said as well.

It's not because I voted GB because he said something retarded that I didn't had any other reasons to think GB was mafia. Also. I was still in my pretty trolly fase in the game. I don't use this as an excuse to do scummy things (which I didn't) but that you can't 100% explain/follow what I am thinking back then is normal. The problem you have is that the parts you can't follow from reading the thread fill in with some incorrect assumptions you make. And then your brain decides that these incorrect assumptions are the truth. And then we are were we are.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:19 GMT

#2652

On April 15 2015 03:12 Vivax wrote:
No just rsoultin being in our way when people try to scumhunt.

Which is why I voted her. Because she was being a troll on a serious post. It was a joke vote to "steer town in the right direction" kinda thingie.

But I didn't do it because tmi.

You might though. I wonder if it was a scumslip tbh.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:22 GMT

#2653

On April 15 2015 03:19 Vivax wrote:
for what Palmar said*

You voted rso and didn't engage with Palmar or GB

You point being?????????????????

That was how I was playing back then. I did shit. How is it scummy?

Where is the scum part?

I saw GB say something dumb. I voted him.
I saw rsoultin say something dumb. I voted her.

There is no inconsistency.

why should I have engaged Palmar?
why should I have engaged GB?

Show me why town Koshi would do that? In that state town Koshi waS?

Unless you can do that. You don't have fucking shit Vivax.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:27 GMT

#2655

On April 15 2015 03:14 Vivax wrote:
I now realize this post was fucking spot on:

Show nested quote +

On April 08 2015 15:27 Vivax wrote:

On April 07 2015 22:05 GlowingBear wrote:

On April 07 2015 21:53 Palmar wrote:
Like that's the entire reason I'm voting you. I believe you posted without saying anything. Interjected yourself into a discussion without adding anything.

I think the above are mafia traits.

On April 07 2015 22:06 Vivax wrote:
You just said you don't think he's mafia wtf...

Are you Mafia with Damdy?

On April 07 2015 22:07 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote GlowingBear

I might be voting for a townie now. But seriously...

On April 08 2015 03:35 Koshi wrote:
Vivax: He is off.
Holyflare: I don't think I had a real reason.
GB: What Palmar said.

On April 07 2015 19:39 Palmar wrote:

On April 07 2015 19:33 Vivax wrote:

On April 07 2015 19:29 Palmar wrote:

On April 07 2015 19:11 Vivax wrote:
Damdred pretty hard on GB with his reasoning. Not sure if legit, he chose the worst possible explanation for GB complaining about HF vs Obi.

As if HF asking for an Obi wambulance was oh so informative lol.

The point is not whether or not what they were doing was productive. The question is whether GB was doing anything useful at all.

Define useful in a wambulance and random gif setting.

+ Show Spoiler +

Okay clearly you're being affected by a small head syndrome.

HF and Obi were having a shitfest. I'm not arguing that. When this happens there are a few options open to a player not involved. Some of them are useful, some are useless. Here's a few options GB could have taken.

GB could have:

Ignored it and walked away
Tried to put a stop to it
Tried to change the subject to something more entertaining or useful
Joined in on the fun
Idly complained about it without trying to stop it or change the subject
Tried to glean some information from it

You'll notice that he did actually take one of the options. The problem I have is that is by fare the worst option available. By his own admission he wasn't trying to stop them, so what was he trying to achieve? He wasn't being funny, he wasn't being sociable, he wasn't trying to bring up a new subject, he wasn't scumhunting or trying to poke people further.

Why did GB post?

Palmar said that at April 07 2015 19:39

So Koshi isn't evaluating my behaviour in regards to GB and Palmar. That I asked Palmar to go into his scumreads, that I discussed it with him, that I accepted his reasoning on GB ultimately. But this isn't even my best point.

The most scummy thing here is that he only seems to scumread GB when I point out that he called Palmar town on the previous page, and yet gives Palmar's case as reason to scumread GB later on.
In that case there was no reason for him to say "I might be voting for a townie", cause apparently he already agreed with what Palmar said.

Let me answer this as well.

There are 2 events in the thread.

1)
GB says something stupid.
Koshi votes GB with the line: "GB might be town". Koshi added this line because he thought GB said something so dumb it might come from a townie. I don't know why I had that thought. I don't know if that thought is correct. But I had that thought and I wrote it down.

2)
Rsoultin asks Koshi to explain his GB/HF/Vivax scumlist.
Koshi answers that GB might be mafia because he believes what Palmar said was pretty legit.

Situation 1 and 2 are completely different. There also was a bunch of non seriousness in my play back then.

I can somewhere see what you mean. I can't exactly grasp why it was scummy from me. Something I should have thought because what I did in 1) and therefore I said something wrong in 2). But seriously... You are looking way too deep into that shit. Way too deep.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:29 GMT

#2656

tbh I don't think Vivax as scum can keep this on so long. I am just starting my defense here because in Vivax/Koshi/Obi lylo I want to be prepared.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:34 GMT

#2658

On April 15 2015 03:32 Vivax wrote:

Show nested quote +

What is this state you keep talking about?

I think it's simple. I see Palmar saying he found mafia, I keep baiting information out of him, I don't understand his first post, I understand his second when I ask, you are nowhere to be seen.

When he explains it I vote GB with him, then rsoultin starts picking on him for whatever reason, then you vote rsoultin, everyone decides she's a pita, yet you never engaged in that conversation.

Me, Palmar, rso, all took a stance in some way. You just vote out of nowhere and don't talk. When you talk is when I call out GB on something I found on my own, and even then you leave the caveat he could be town, yet when explaining your read on me WHEN YOU THROW ME IN A TEAM WITH HIM, its cause of what Palmar said.

So I say you are lying.

My state is that I wasn't seriously playing back then. It was really w.e I do some shit and have some fun with it style.

I understand what you are saying.

The truth is: "I didn't pay too much fucking attention to anything so shit like that happened"

You can think I am lying and I am mafia.

But

I am not.

Koshi

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April 14 2015 18:36 GMT

#2661

See Vivax. I would redeem myself and get lynched if I was one of the three. But I am sadly one of the 4.

Vivax, do you think there is a chance Obi is mafia? And if you do. How high is the %. Let's say in a group of Koshi/yamato/ritoky/obi.