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On April 16 2015 15:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 15:21 The Shining wrote:
Instead, how about you come back to the thread after more of the read throughs on that list are done and we can talk about who is scum to you on that list?
RSo, it's a good point that he'd try to avoid you if he couldn't in fact get the NK on you but...I still...don't understand...why JJB...voted Prpl...my brain hurts. I don't really think they can be scum together.
So I started looking at Prpl's town games VS scum games. His posts are a lot bigger in his scum games. That's off of initial skim through. I'm going to continue diving his old games for meta but his comment on wanting to no lynch in Debauchery made me think he could possibly be a frustrated town at this point, pissed off no other townie is putting in any work and getting disheartened. And the more games I skim through, the more I'm seeing it as a viable possibility.
In that world, I could see town!Prpl pushing RSo this hard believing in his scum read.
Trfel also isn't convinced we've even had a scum up for a wagon yet. If I'm to believe that's true, your world actually makes sense.
Tube/JJB/Bourne/Prpl. Bourne starts the ML on Dwarf. JJB makes sure to stay off of it. Tube gets on the Dwarf wagon somewhat early to try and avoid suspicion. Prpl is town, which is why JJB has no problem AFKing that vote. eh, could be a buss? especially with tube and bourne on dwarf, since one of them has to be scum? i mean i get why it's so nice and shiny to say that someone voting for someone else means they can't be scum together lol >< but that's really not the best logic regardless, it's late :/ i don't know how much further i'm going to get eliminating one of those names until i actually do those filter-dives gnite?
It's a really dangerous bus and that's why I'm asking you of all people. Do you think JJB is capable of AFKing a bus vote at EoD?
With Tube and Bourne on Dwarf and one of them "have to" be scum, isn't it also possible they're both in fact scum? JJB did mention that Bourne is pretty absent from Tube's filter. I'll have to double check that as well.
Still reading Prpl's town games and I'm getting a really queasy feeling that he fits his town meta this game. Yeah, this is goodnight for now. I'm off to smoke and then come back and do some re-reading.
Unless JJB or Prpl want to talk about anything?
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On April 16 2015 15:31 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 15:19 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 15:11 prplhz wrote:
yea jjb can't get me to accept a kill on you hahahahaha come on lol you act like how you're acting in the thread would translate to a scum qt xP i'd been townreading/defending you and voted in part to save your ass day 2, so why would you want to nk me if you're scum? if you're town, pull your head out your ass ^^ please and thank you if you're town i apologize but i can't believe that 
Want to take a crack at explaining her scum motivation for moving off of my lynch after I softed blue? That lynch would easily have been blamed on Trfel and Breshke literally yelling at the thread to lynch me, not her.
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On April 16 2015 15:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 15:32 The Shining wrote:On April 16 2015 15:28 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 15:21 The Shining wrote:
Instead, how about you come back to the thread after more of the read throughs on that list are done and we can talk about who is scum to you on that list?
RSo, it's a good point that he'd try to avoid you if he couldn't in fact get the NK on you but...I still...don't understand...why JJB...voted Prpl...my brain hurts. I don't really think they can be scum together.
So I started looking at Prpl's town games VS scum games. His posts are a lot bigger in his scum games. That's off of initial skim through. I'm going to continue diving his old games for meta but his comment on wanting to no lynch in Debauchery made me think he could possibly be a frustrated town at this point, pissed off no other townie is putting in any work and getting disheartened. And the more games I skim through, the more I'm seeing it as a viable possibility.
In that world, I could see town!Prpl pushing RSo this hard believing in his scum read.
Trfel also isn't convinced we've even had a scum up for a wagon yet. If I'm to believe that's true, your world actually makes sense.
Tube/JJB/Bourne/Prpl. Bourne starts the ML on Dwarf. JJB makes sure to stay off of it. Tube gets on the Dwarf wagon somewhat early to try and avoid suspicion. Prpl is town, which is why JJB has no problem AFKing that vote. eh, could be a buss? especially with tube and bourne on dwarf, since one of them has to be scum? i mean i get why it's so nice and shiny to say that someone voting for someone else means they can't be scum together lol >< but that's really not the best logic regardless, it's late :/ i don't know how much further i'm going to get eliminating one of those names until i actually do those filter-dives gnite? It's a really dangerous bus and that's why I'm asking you of all people. Do you think JJB is capable of AFKing a bus vote at EoD? With Tube and Bourne on Dwarf and one of them "have to" be scum, isn't it also possible they're both in fact scum? JJB did mention that Bourne is pretty absent from Tube's filter. I'll have to double check that as well. Still reading Prpl's town games and I'm getting a really queasy feeling that he fits his town meta this game. Yeah, this is goodnight for now. I'm off to smoke and then come back and do some re-reading. Unless JJB or Prpl want to talk about anything? lol you're asking me if it's possible jjb busses? xP
I'm asking you if you think he's confident enough to AFK a bus vote. I think he's much more confident as scum AFKing a vote on the other town in a town v town situation.
Or he's town and AFKd his vote just cuz and it's all for naught.
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But then that brings me back to Prpl being scum. When I explained that scum!Prp would vote you hoping town!Bresh would vote as well and scum would come and scoop in, you said that didn't happen. And you're right. It didn't. Bresh fake claimed Vig instead.
So I'm still stuck wondering if scum!Prp is ballsy enough to push one of the stronger town players in the game. Or if my progressing meta read and doubts on him are right, after all, and D2 ended in town v town.
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On April 16 2015 15:46 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2015 15:42 The Shining wrote:On April 16 2015 15:38 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 15:32 The Shining wrote:On April 16 2015 15:28 rsoultin wrote:On April 16 2015 15:21 The Shining wrote:
Instead, how about you come back to the thread after more of the read throughs on that list are done and we can talk about who is scum to you on that list?
RSo, it's a good point that he'd try to avoid you if he couldn't in fact get the NK on you but...I still...don't understand...why JJB...voted Prpl...my brain hurts. I don't really think they can be scum together.
So I started looking at Prpl's town games VS scum games. His posts are a lot bigger in his scum games. That's off of initial skim through. I'm going to continue diving his old games for meta but his comment on wanting to no lynch in Debauchery made me think he could possibly be a frustrated town at this point, pissed off no other townie is putting in any work and getting disheartened. And the more games I skim through, the more I'm seeing it as a viable possibility.
In that world, I could see town!Prpl pushing RSo this hard believing in his scum read.
Trfel also isn't convinced we've even had a scum up for a wagon yet. If I'm to believe that's true, your world actually makes sense.
Tube/JJB/Bourne/Prpl. Bourne starts the ML on Dwarf. JJB makes sure to stay off of it. Tube gets on the Dwarf wagon somewhat early to try and avoid suspicion. Prpl is town, which is why JJB has no problem AFKing that vote. eh, could be a buss? especially with tube and bourne on dwarf, since one of them has to be scum? i mean i get why it's so nice and shiny to say that someone voting for someone else means they can't be scum together lol >< but that's really not the best logic regardless, it's late :/ i don't know how much further i'm going to get eliminating one of those names until i actually do those filter-dives gnite? It's a really dangerous bus and that's why I'm asking you of all people. Do you think JJB is capable of AFKing a bus vote at EoD? With Tube and Bourne on Dwarf and one of them "have to" be scum, isn't it also possible they're both in fact scum? JJB did mention that Bourne is pretty absent from Tube's filter. I'll have to double check that as well. Still reading Prpl's town games and I'm getting a really queasy feeling that he fits his town meta this game. Yeah, this is goodnight for now. I'm off to smoke and then come back and do some re-reading. Unless JJB or Prpl want to talk about anything? lol you're asking me if it's possible jjb busses? xP I'm asking you if you think he's confident enough to AFK a bus vote. I think he's much more confident as scum AFKing a vote on the other town in a town v town situation. Or he's town and AFKd his vote just cuz and it's all for naught. mmm the others up for lynch at the time were who, bourneq and dwarf? most likely not, then, unless bourneq is like the rb or something and voting dwarf would draw too much negative attention when he was already afking :/ but without rechecking filters no, i don't think that's likely
No? Was talking about D2 EoD. Lynches were me, Dwarf, Prpl before everyone came off of me. Then just Dwarf-Prpl. Prpl lone vote on Bourne.
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Ugh I'm here. Having a lot to catch up on kept postponing my posts and then irl stuff got in the way.
Ehhh, I had been suspicious of Bourne before and although I gave his defense benefit of the doubt D2, I'm seeing much of the same nothing. I also think scum could be bussing hard here, as Bourneq is arguably the hardest scummate to defend at this point.
Breshke is still not CCd so we're both confirmed town imo. I'm solid on my RSo town read. Prplhaze keeps afking eod ahead of time which feels like bad juju but giving an excuse ahead of time and sheeping onto Bourne before doing so isn't alignment indicative. There is motivation to bus a weak scummate here or also get on the winning lynch early. Tere is also the fact he's been scumming Bourne and finally gets to lynch him(town motivation) I'm hating all this unflipped association though.
I'm also very uneasy about Trfel, especially as of recently, but although I can't shake it, I can't exactly quantify what it is. No point wasting time this close to eod.
That leaves me with Bourne, JJB, Tube. And I'm going with Bourne as most likely scum there, although JJB is a close second.
Idk I really can't see scum Tube going THAT in depth on a tinfoil regarding an unCCd blue. It's suicidal scum play imo.
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I guess here goes nothing...
##Vote: Bourneq
Sidenote: will deff be signing up for next game now to start on time. Srsly learned my lesson about replacing here. Still feel really bad about my play this game.
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On April 18 2015 04:45 Bourneq wrote:
This is so unfortunate. Would have been sweet to swing back and win with such a terrible start. Well played scum, see you next newbie game im signed up and everything.
See that's the thing. If you're town, I don't mean to offend you in any way but I've only played a few newbies here. Due to my normally low post play regardless of alignment, I've been up for lynch a few times.
I've never been lynched. I've been endgamed, NKd but not mislynched. As town, I fight my mislynches tooth and nail. Even when I've tried to martyr, I still ended up coming back to thread and re evaluating the thread and ultimately defending my lynch.
Because I was town. Because I wanted to win.
I'm not seeing even a small inkling of that in you. Unless you really are this resigned as town, in which case I'm sorry but I couldn't see it.
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On April 18 2015 05:20 Breshke wrote:
Can i go back to sleep and never return if me lose on this lynch?
Rso/shining do you think shining/tube could be scum together?
Not at all.
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Lol I know what you meant, I'm kind of just disappointed in myself this game and a bit cranky over it.
I don't think there's any way Bourne is town here.
I've seen an RSo scumgame. She went at HTS this one. I haven't known RSo to be that confident. She tends to be wishy washy with her reads as scum. Although they haven't been the strongest here, I haven't really found any flaws in her read reasoning, including the mind moment we had. And she picked up on my blue soft, another solid reason for her flip on me before my claim.
I don't think I could've voted RSo even if I saw it, and I don't.
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HTS gets MVP for calling RSo/JJB before role PMs even went out.
I was suspect on JJB but I never got the time to really look into him over Tube/Trf(good distraction Tube).
Don't worry, HTS, you're not as bad as I am...
GG scumteam.
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On April 18 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote:
pls pls pls don't scumread me in future games for being wrong though lol >< i do that all the time i'm not marv/hf lol ><
hey plot! <3
i'm glad you and bourneq plan on playing again in the next newbie!
Bah I had that as part of your town meta so idk. Now it's nai for you =P
Yeah I'm happy you guys are playing again. Next newbie seems to be filling up fast.
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On April 18 2015 06:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 06:35 The Shining wrote:On April 18 2015 06:29 rsoultin wrote:
pls pls pls don't scumread me in future games for being wrong though lol >< i do that all the time i'm not marv/hf lol ><
hey plot! <3
i'm glad you and bourneq plan on playing again in the next newbie! Bah I had that as part of your town meta so idk. Now it's nai for you =P Yeah I'm happy you guys are playing again. Next newbie seems to be filling up fast. o.0 what's part of my town meta? lol generally any meta argument for me is bad lol >< it's why i go GRRRR at people trying tone you can catch me on lol and forgetting to post legacies that too >> nice one bresh...had to really dig through my games to find examples where i didn't do it as town lol ><
Your being wrong. It's a stupid thing to town OR scum you for, as no townie will be 100% right.
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On April 18 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
o.0 you actually thought i'm only wrong as town? lol that would make it hard to get anyone mislynched -amused-
No lol just that you being wrong and the way you defend those wrong reads after was town. Thought scum rso would be more guilty and therefore less coherently defensive of her reads.
Lesson learned. Read rso thru current game only. And if alive D3, auto lynch. 
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On April 18 2015 07:34 Trfel wrote:
I'm so sorry, I threw this game all by myself.............
If I just didn't block town from playing the game normally, we would have been okay. I thought we were set, and I could afford to sidetrack the entire thread by arguing with mafia. I was so, so wrong.
Tubesock, just a warning, if you're going to try and lynch me, you really need to do a better job. And next time I won't let you interfere with the entire thread, I'll actually use my head once in a while.
Dude. Our vig shot a strong town read and missed 24 of 48 hrs in mylo. This isn't all on you.
I think we all know now some of the mistakes we think we made and what we can do to improve on them. You did the best you could as a replacement, which was pretty good.
Student Game. We're the students. Let's keep learning. =D
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On April 18 2015 07:40 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:37 The Shining wrote:On April 18 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
o.0 you actually thought i'm only wrong as town? lol that would make it hard to get anyone mislynched -amused- No lol just that you being wrong and the way you defend those wrong reads after was town. Thought scum rso would be more guilty and therefore less coherently defensive of her reads. Lesson learned. Read rso thru current game only. And if alive D3, auto lynch. Nah. It was easy to see that something was wrong with rsoultin. You didn't even need to read her filter. The disconnect is differentiating between her play being "off" and this being alignment indicative. That would be hard to figure out. Honestly, were it not for the Bourneq thing, there's a pretty chance I would have gone with rsoultin being scum. Jarjarbinks was most likely to stop me. I just feel so awful. I made a terrible assumption, and not only did I use it to sabotage my own play, but I sabotaged the entire town. You can't win mafia single-handedly, but you certainly can lose it that way. Apologies to Bourneq, your play wasn't bad at all, my reason for scumreading you was simply moronic.
Yeah that d1 play was what troubled me most but her pre game excuse for it made me write it off. Huge mistake on my part. As a replacement, I was having trouble catching up then staying caught up. When she felt off, I attributed it to that d1 excuse and never revisited.
Ugh.
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On April 18 2015 07:43 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:37 The Shining wrote:On April 18 2015 07:29 rsoultin wrote:
o.0 you actually thought i'm only wrong as town? lol that would make it hard to get anyone mislynched -amused- No lol just that you being wrong and the way you defend those wrong reads after was town. Thought scum rso would be more guilty and therefore less coherently defensive of her reads. Lesson learned. Read rso thru current game only. And if alive D3, auto lynch. i am like so afraid of this becoming the general rule of thumb nuuuuuuu i am not that good! disregard never living to day 3 in my last 6 town games >< occasionally i make it to lylo to lose it for town?
Nope. Auto auto auto.
I'm kidding, I'd like to think at full potential, I'm capable of actually figuring out your alignment.
But you have to admit, the longer you live, the more that point will come up in any game you play =P
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On April 18 2015 08:03 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:56 Trfel wrote:On April 18 2015 07:53 Half the Sky wrote:
Trfel, any veteran can request a coach. You have to just ask. Newbies get first priority obviously. If you RNG scum you are obviously given the scum coach.
Artanis was my coach. Much <3 to the protoss. Protoss! XD Yeh...he hasn't taken too well to me being a dota player. He is trying to corrupt me into the Starcraft/BW sort of thing....no, I'll take dota over that shit anyday.
THIS IS WHY YOU END GAMED ME WHEN I JOINED.
League for life. >.>
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On April 18 2015 08:05 LoneMeow wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2015 07:56 Holyflare wrote:
don't replace till end of cycles next time plz ty <3 It seems a bit silly to hold a replace for 24+ hours? Yours was the only one I think I should have held.
Mine was well timed. It was my fault that I didn't see the pm right away.
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HTS lol I'm not really a die hard like most irt Dota vs league. If I thought my laptop could handle it, I'd try dota. But league lag is sketchy enough lol.
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