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Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 10 2015 20:54 GMT
#627
On April 11 2015 05:52 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 05:41 Bourneq wrote:
If right now I would say Ace. He is very useless at the moment. He may very well be speaking the truth about having to be away for work but even if he is town he is certinatly the most useless town.

who do you think is most likely to be scum?

TBD. What about you?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 10 2015 21:07 GMT
#628
And who are your town reads prplhz?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 10 2015 21:51 GMT
#630
On April 11 2015 06:51 jarjarbinks wrote:
hey guys

i'll be around for a while. reading up. let me know if you want my thoughts on something

I want all of your thoughts. Can I have them?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 12:50 GMT
#767
Good mornign gents and ladies!


I think we hit the nail on the head with plotspot in the recent pages. My personal reasoning behind scum reading plotspot is mainly from theese quotes
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^


I hate this post
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On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 15:09 jarjarbinks wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^


Plot, can you explain why you think this? I'm assuming you didn't actually 100% believe it, but you just think he's town.

Also, what do you think of dwarf and onegu so far?


whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town.

about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^

Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 21:00 plotspot wrote:
Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended.


How is perceived poor play alignment indicative? IIRC you were scumreading or calling out scum behaviour based on him "playing like a fucktard?" Especially in a newbie game - yes I know Onegu is not a noob but the point still stands - how are you distinguishing between poor play and scum play?


Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote

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On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.


I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?




Mainly because of "Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^"
And "I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town." when he himself said prplhz was 100% town really early on.
Not to meantion the 5 ^^, but I wont go into that.


TBD is making my scum radar beep and its driving me crazy. I would like to see the dwarf do anything, just anything to further towns agenda. Or at least theorycraft with us. But he has done noone of that what so ever. The recent points brought against him also look solid.


Now I will carefully examine prplhz and see if I have anything to bring to the table.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 13:22 GMT
#777
On April 11 2015 22:07 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 21:50 Bourneq wrote:
Good mornign gents and ladies!


I think we hit the nail on the head with plotspot in the recent pages. My personal reasoning behind scum reading plotspot is mainly from theese quotes
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^


I hate this post
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 15:09 jarjarbinks wrote:
On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote:
prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^


Plot, can you explain why you think this? I'm assuming you didn't actually 100% believe it, but you just think he's town.

Also, what do you think of dwarf and onegu so far?


whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town.

about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^

Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can.

Show nested quote +
On April 10 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:
On April 10 2015 21:00 plotspot wrote:
Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended.


How is perceived poor play alignment indicative? IIRC you were scumreading or calling out scum behaviour based on him "playing like a fucktard?" Especially in a newbie game - yes I know Onegu is not a noob but the point still stands - how are you distinguishing between poor play and scum play?


Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote

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On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.


I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?




Mainly because of "Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^"
And "I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town." when he himself said prplhz was 100% town really early on.
Not to meantion the 5 ^^, but I wont go into that.


TBD is making my scum radar beep and its driving me crazy. I would like to see the dwarf do anything, just anything to further towns agenda. Or at least theorycraft with us. But he has done noone of that what so ever. The recent points brought against him also look solid.


Now I will carefully examine prplhz and see if I have anything to bring to the table.


Yeah you hit the nail on that one. I guess that means we were not born for eachother. ^^ The funniest thing would be if you'd really be a mafia. I'd really like that. Useless townsfolk who confuses the fuck out of everyone or mafia, what does it matter who gets lynched?

I'm totally always rooting for mafia regardless of alignment. Go guys.^^

What are you even saying here? Is it me you're calling useless townsfolk? Where am I confusing you? It matter a lot who gets lynched.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 13:30 GMT
#779
On to my prplhz read.

At the start he was questioning tbd a little, he even asked for tbd's reads but did not get any. Then magicaly he goes for his defence with this
On April 10 2015 09:09 prplhz wrote:
bloodydwarf comes in here and says some weird shit about cops saving him. that seems very poorly thought out and like it's just something his fingers wrote and then he pressed enter. doesn't seem like something scum would just say. considering that scum know the setup i imagine they'd actually be inclined not to talk about it if they can avoid it.


This also bugs me
On April 11 2015 03:01 prplhz wrote:
dunno if you're my top townies right now but you seem alright and if you agree that's probably a good sign

maybe bloodydwarf is my top town read but i'm not sheeping him

How can TBD be anybodys top town read?

On April 11 2015 03:05 prplhz wrote:
##Vote Half the Sky

This just seemed really unmotivated.

On April 11 2015 16:14 prplhz wrote:
okey plotspot

##Unvote
##Vote plotspot

Changing his vote too look more in tune with the town. I dont recall seeing prpl changing his tune on hts so why this sudden change of heart?

On April 11 2015 02:31 prplhz wrote:
welll i'm just going to drop bourneq for now he's beginning to put in some effort so maybe he's town who knows. anyway, i'm not getting anywhere with it so i'm just going to drop it.

He then drops his crusade against me when seeing a lack of support. It looks to me like he is afraid of looking scum.

On April 11 2015 02:28 prplhz wrote:
OMGUS means he thinks you're calling me scum because i'm calling you scum

he's saying you have decent arguments but unfortunately he has a hard time believing them because he thinks maybe you're just calling me scum because i'm calling you scum

I never called him scum before that post. So why is he fabricating a OMGUS response from me?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 13:30 GMT
#780
I have got to go and do some daily necessities now. When I return I shall cast my vote.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 13:36 GMT
#784
A last thing before I go about prplhz. He seems to be all over the place but not contributing a whole lot. I will have to think about it carefully today but he is not likely to be voted on by me today.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 14:30 GMT
#789
On April 11 2015 22:56 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 05:07 Stutters695 wrote:
Bourneq: You listed myself, onegu, rsoultin, prpl, jarjar, ace and Bloody as null/scummy. That's obviously too many people to be scum and we can only lynch one today. Ignore Ace (assume he's dead either way for this question), who do you lynch today and what makes them scum?

Anyone else here?


Okay yeah same page as your question prp, so im not completely out to lunch but lol...bourne dude why would you lynch ace over someone (tbd in this case) you think is more likely to flip scum?

My reasoning at the time that if Ace is not a mafia scared of posting or just flat out staying out of the game as a tactic, then he is at least to most useless town. Since he is not posting and thus not contributing anything then even if he was town it would not be a massive loss for us since he is not helping anyway.

That being said I would wrather lynch somebody we can say is the most likely mafia and I will not be voting ace today. In fact,

##Vote Plotspot
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 14:32 GMT
#790
Sorry I got to edit that sentance because its full of typoes.
"My reasoning at the time that if Ace is not a mafia scared of posting or just flat out staying out of the game as a tactic, then he is at least to most useless town. "
Should read My reasoning at the time was that even if Ace is not a mafia that is scared of posting or using his absence as a strategy then he is at the very least the most useless town.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 14:40 GMT
#796
On April 11 2015 23:38 rsoultin wrote:
to be clear the way youre talking i dont get why youre not voing aces slot bourrne

That being said I would wrather lynch somebody we can say is the most likely mafia and I will not be voting ace today.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 14:44 GMT
#799
I did type up my reasoning behind plotspot on the last page aswell.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 16:02 GMT
#808
Stutters can you give us some reads please?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:21 GMT
#830
Did you not just "give out" prplhz as town?
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:25 GMT
#833
On April 12 2015 02:22 Tubesock wrote:
Why ? Why not a normal or . I could definitely have used a (chill out mang) or even a . You went with the . Shiny glitzy white teeth big smile. No one has shiny white teeth like that without artificial treatment. How the fuck can I see that and not think you are taunting me?

Probably best point ever.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:27 GMT
#834
On April 12 2015 02:23 plotspot wrote:
No sir Bourneq, I've changed my mind, like almost everybody here.^^ Maybe you could read and understand my posts.^^

I cant, all I see is ^^.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 17:28 GMT
#835
On April 12 2015 01:02 Bourneq wrote:
Stutters can you give us some reads please?

I would still love some reads from you when you get back from work.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 18:07 GMT
#849
On April 12 2015 03:01 Onegu wrote:
Went to ER last night and narcotics haven't worn off. So yeah don't expect anything from me today.

Can someone TLDR the last like 10 pages?

If this was 100 years ago before IV pharmaceuticals I'm certain I'd be dead. Chronic pancreatitis is a bitch. Shout out to alakaslam's mom

I hope you have a speedy recovery!
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 19:57 GMT
#868
On April 12 2015 04:27 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 17:46 Tubesock wrote:
So, I have this fascination with trying to read difficult/cryptic players. Players like Alakaslam, Sicklucker, Chezinu, and LightningStrike. It's dumb, but I absolutely love playing with those guys. I fall into big traps though, like finding deep meaning into statements and their word useage and once I think they are scummy I really get into confirmation bias.

I'm really confused on TheBloodyDwarf. He hasn't done a single towny thing yet. He's blatantly ignoring requests for any type of read and isn't helping town at all. I mean it's so anti-town that mafia would at least try to fake something. He's not even doing that. He like doesn't care at all, he's trying to act as scummy as possible it seems.

He made some posts which made me unvote him. At that time I was thinking he was basically softclaiming Vet. I didn't want to pursue anything and I think others were thinking the same thing. It would obviously defeat the purpose of him being vet. While at work i was thinking about him a lot. It just bugged me. A vet would play towny right? The entire point is to make MAFIA shoot you. But then you also have to avoid being lynched. And he's obviously not doing that.

Then my tinfoil hat deflected an alien interrogation beam. TheBloodyDwarf is Godfather. BloodyDwarf comes from SC2 mafia arcade. So it's safe to say he plays SC2. He presumeably found TL mafia from the SC2 forums. He's not dumb, he's probably the more hardcore gamer type. TL Mafia does seem like the harder core version of many versions of mafia I think. So, he's fucking smart. He's not playing poorly at all.

If he is Godfather, he KNOWS the setup. He knows if there is a cop/doc/vigi/vet. The OP says mafia knows. Reread his filter, doesn't it look like he's trying to make people think he's vet? "Don't shoot me" "I hope cop/vigi are guud". Yeah, he wants to make it look like he doesn't really know the setup but is telling the cop to check him so he returns town. He then knows who the cop is and mafia get to kill him. And he is basically confirmed town who gets to live at least another day.

He softs vet knowing people probably won't push him since an outed vet is sooo bad for town. He then doesn't have to act towny. But in order to get cop checked he has to act really scummy so that the cop will check him over other question marks.


I don't have a problem with you saying this, I'm used to your tinfoil theories
But there's something I don't understand from a gameplay standpoint. (See bolded). Even if the cop, if we have a cop, checks him, how is he going to know who the cop is? How do you know the cop will out with a check esp this early in the game. I haven't played student game in awhile, checked the rules, and nothing is jumping out to me that indicates if he were scum, that he'd be getting any sort of added information this way. Am I misunderstanding you?

It would not get him any additional information but it would waste a cop check.
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
April 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#902
Plot still seems like the obvious lynch to me. Stutters is certinatly a suspect but I see no reason in keeping plot around.
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