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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 22:49 GMT
#641
what joke
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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:53 GMT
#642
"I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?"

Ok I could see that. I think I interpreted the post as an "angry that he scummed you" post rather than you having actual reasons. My B
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:54 GMT
#643
On April 11 2015 07:49 prplhz wrote:
what joke


About you sheeping me and RS
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 22:54 GMT
#644
On April 11 2015 07:53 jarjarbinks wrote:
"I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?"

Ok I could see that. I think I interpreted the post as an "angry that he scummed you" post rather than you having actual reasons. My B


@Plot
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 22:56 GMT
#645
i wasn't joking at all. at that point i seriously intended to sheep you and rso if you agreed on something. but now you just implied that i don't have any reads so i'm not going to sheep you (singular) anyway.
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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:02 GMT
#646
On April 11 2015 07:56 prplhz wrote:
i wasn't joking at all. at that point i seriously intended to sheep you and rso if you agreed on something. but now you just implied that i don't have any reads so i'm not going to sheep you (singular) anyway.


Yaaaaaa lol I did do that.

Honestly I think that if your town you have a better shot of going off of your reads than sheeping someone you don't know the alignment of. Are you 100% sure Rso's town? I'm not. She could definitely play like this as mafia or town.
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:03 GMT
#647
I'll be around if anyone has questions. Need to look through all of this a few more times.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 23:07 GMT
#648
lzphrpz unordered lynch list: hts jjb bourneq
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 23:09 GMT
#649
@jarjarbinks

what do you think about bourneq wanting to lynch ace even though tbd is his biggest scum read?
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jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:20 GMT
#650
I don't see where dwarf is his biggest scumread, at least after this morning. Did I miss something? It was before the shift off of dwarf.

You could be on to something with the shift. He generally was all for dwarf when everyone else was on him. One of the slower ones off of that train. Now is on Ace, who many people are either scumming or suspicious of.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 23:30 GMT
#651
On April 11 2015 05:54 Bourneq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 05:52 prplhz wrote:
On April 11 2015 05:41 Bourneq wrote:
If right now I would say Ace. He is very useless at the moment. He may very well be speaking the truth about having to be away for work but even if he is town he is certinatly the most useless town.

who do you think is most likely to be scum?

TBD. What about you?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:34 GMT
#652
On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:
Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote

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On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote:
I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things.


I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote?


No but you implied it. The fact that you are considering changing a vote to me implies you have some potential to scumread on him even if you aren't explicitly saying it. The bad play versus scum play was a natural followup not because I'm sure you're town, but because I was interested in seeing how you'd go about sorting his alignment. That's a common sentiment and challenge in newbie games tbh.

As for Onegu, the way I see it, he's been caught out doing things where he could be checking the OP but he doesn't. For example, in Guardians, which I hosted, he questioned Trfel on usage of the orb with certain number of people when it was clear in the OP (and others corrected him) that the orb was gone with 11 players or fewer.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:38 GMT
#653
On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:
about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far.


Why do you think he's a victim? He dissauaded Soren from digging into him (I'm not terribly convinced of his answer atm) but more concerning, at this stage in the game, he hasn't given reads. I've asked for them. Even you've given them.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:39 GMT
#654
EBWOP - Let me rephrase that question plot - yes many are scumreading him, so it might appear he's a victim, but given the reasons people are scumreading him, don't you feel those reasons are justified?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
jarjarbinks
Profile Joined December 2014
569 Posts
April 10 2015 23:39 GMT
#655
Hmm The flip flop begins lol

So I previously wasn't a huge fan of Stutters so far. I'm changing my mind.

Sure, Onegu voted Breshke before. There wasn't too much traction on him before that IMO. He made a case and it looked like he thought it was pretty good. It seems like he has been scumhunting around since then.

I expect him to show his "top four" and his reads besides Breshke. But he did just get in the game. I don't see him as lynchable right now at all.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 23:40 GMT
#656
On April 11 2015 08:39 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Let me rephrase that question plot - yes many are scumreading him, so it might appear he's a victim, but given the reasons people are scumreading him, don't you feel those reasons are justified?

are you saying that just because a lot of people think something then it's justified to think it?
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:50 GMT
#657
On April 11 2015 03:52 Stutters695 wrote:
HtS: what do you think of Breshke? You found my original accusation suspect yet haven't touched on either since you've been back.


Breshke seems alright so far. He's voted Dwarf in the beginning which is a town tell - I know that in his scum games he delays definite scumreads until closer to the end of the day like he did in NYE Party and Titanic, although he replaced out the latter game but it was close enough to EoD and IIRC he hadn't scumread anyone yet.

You said his vote on dwarf had no reasoning, and he posted a reason two posts before he voted (check his filter).

On April 10 2015 08:11 Breshke wrote:
Also @Thebloodydwarf I asked about your vote because random voting is w/e but im under the understanding that it is done to apply pressure. Yet you voted someone who was around and posting and actively trying to produce content with people. This leads me to think that you simply voted to just fit in with other people doing it.


Then you said he was back to null. I think he was just evaluating the motivation of those (or trying to) of those also voting for BD.

On April 10 2015 15:40 Breshke wrote:
I'm actually still voting for him so i havnt exactly flipped.

The lynchbait thing was because i felt a bunch of people were jumping on the wagon but i was actually wrong theres only 4 and one is sorren and one if me so it is still fairly pure. The other two are tube and ace and I am kinda town lean on tube but expect more from him. Ace's post where he votes didnt impress me much and thats another thing that attributed to me calling it lynchbait.


Unless I'm looking at the wrong quote I didn't see anything wrong and I didn't think he was null esp after agreeing with my dissausion point.

Also I don't think his post to Soren was necessarily a defence of prplhz, and I didn't think it was unnecessary. I think there's a difference between pointing a seeming contradiction or incongruency in behaviour and saying that "no prp is town". You could switch prp's name with someone else and it wouldn't be a defence of that person. You can also see later in Breshke's filter that he questions a TR on prp.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:52 GMT
#658
On April 11 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 08:39 Half the Sky wrote:
EBWOP - Let me rephrase that question plot - yes many are scumreading him, so it might appear he's a victim, but given the reasons people are scumreading him, don't you feel those reasons are justified?

are you saying that just because a lot of people think something then it's justified to think it?


Uh no, not in the least.

To be blunt, prp, I don't like your answer at all.

My focus in this question are the reasons people are scumreading him, not the number of people scumreading him.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
April 10 2015 23:57 GMT
#659
I also don't like how plot said that TBD was a victim. When two posts prior, he says this.

On April 10 2015 09:34 plotspot wrote:
Why joke vote? It will stand as long as nothing else happens. It's not like Ace1312 feels totally threatened. At this time Bourneq will burn. Or even BloodyDwarf who a few people have on their list for certain acceptable reasons.


It's a bit contradictory in logic.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
April 10 2015 23:57 GMT
#660
oh yea i misread

i apologize for forcing you to be blunt
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