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On April 17 2015 04:01 prplhz wrote: i don't know about this d2 argument you're using, how does d2 conclusively exonerate you? nope lol >< check my filter if you're really town. otherwise i don't give a shit if you think i'm scum and i do anything there but push a blue soft i picked up on you're an idiot or mafia. simple as that ^^ | ||
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On April 17 2015 04:19 prplhz wrote: i don't want to be an idiot! i actually thought about this but totally forgot about it. yes it's a town point but it's not that big of a deal because shining wasn't shooting any of you and you weren't shooting him either. lol >< again with the irrationality scum knowing the set-up doesn't mean scum knows shining is telling the truth, nor which blue he was softing >< this is still a stupid-ass point | ||
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On April 17 2015 04:21 prplhz wrote: can you explain again why you made a big point out of wanting to be right on jjb and then not paying attention to him all game? where exactly did i make a big deal of it? lol >< pretty sure i didn't simply, his early posting was solid and we kept missing each other -_- i also try to joke around with him early cause i know he has trouble with that when he's scum i'm not going to do the work for you. it's not like i didn't interact with him. read my filter | ||
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On April 17 2015 04:31 prplhz wrote: okay well i don't get it then. might read up on it tonight. man i made rayn ragequit i hope i don't make rso ragequit too. >< how ... you know it's really hard not to curse like i'm used to lol >< newbie game meh THERE WAS NO WAY FOR SCUM EVEN IF THEY SUSPECTED SHINING WAS BLUE TO KNOW HE WAS THE VIGILANTE >< how damn hard is it to understand basic things?! no i am not going to ragequit but damnit if you're town throwing i'm going to rail at you, same as breshke, post-game >< such shit reasoning | ||
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i'm not coming back to the thread before i finish what i'm doing | ||
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On April 17 2015 04:39 prplhz wrote: hmm i thought i explained that already? if shining was vigilante he wasn't shooting you. if shining was veteran he wasn't getting shot. him being blue wasn't really a problem. who do you want to lynch then? jjb/bourne...then i start having problems cause i have reasons to townread both you and tube, including the stupid you're displaying right now >< i'll readdress this later. like if breshke wasn't an un-ccd vet i'd be giddy -_- i mean he's friggin confirmed town (supposedly) and as soon as no one ccs shining he flits off into the ether again meh -_- dude if you don't think confirmed towns are a problem for scum, you're high lol >< look at today...it makes things really simple assuming the claims are all true | ||
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On April 17 2015 05:06 prplhz wrote: yes okay. you would lynch someone simply because he would become confirmed when he claimed. i see that, thanks for explaining it! one of my problems with you is that i townread everyone except three people: you jjb bourneq. and i think that scumteam kind of makes sense, more sense than anything else i can think of. and i sort of trust my town reads because i been right on both of the guys we lynched. i also think that it's important that people do townie things (look at me begging people to point out townie things bourneq has done, it's because i thought he was town for not doing townie things) and i just didn't have a lot of those "wow this is something only a townie would say"-moments with you three. look at my plot and dwarf analysis, they're mostly just isolated quotes that i think only townies would say. i don't know if there's anything for me to reconsider. i guess we can kill bourneq and jjb first and maybe i'll have an epiphany. so it's poe then lol >< meh, i don't care. i just know if we lynch me town loses i'm still working on my own brand of poe. so if you're town, bear with me? | ||
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bourne and tube could pretty much literally be scum with anyone based on voting analysis alone...both had pretty static votes day 1 and day 2 (supremely sure you could argue, but i'll get to that later in my bigger post lol ><), and of course we now know that all the wagons (excluding the rogue onegu vote on bresh) were town there players who probably aren't scum together by degrees of certainty: Breshke & prplhz JJB & prplhz Breshke & truffle - if i'm wrong on anything it's this no, prp and bourne did not make the list lol >< for exactly the reason JJB just mentioned above, but also because Bourne has similarly been scumreading prp all game without voting him at all...it is a remarkably unproductive mutual scumread that neither has pursued in any meaningful way additionally. if truffle is scum this game he is almost certainly scum with prplhz for the day 2 voting lol >< sorry i know i'm taking a long time :/ | ||
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today being the obvious exception, regarding bourne voting prp :/ | ||
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On April 17 2015 10:32 Breshke wrote: Is it really the time for this? You want to be convincing people that your very different point of view is the right one. This simply isnt true. You have no faith in your arguments so you dont try and push them instead you pose them as questions so when you are wrong it doesn't come back to look bad on you. You don't draw conclusions on the things you bring up because you say you need to see people ask questions about it when no instead you need to be showing proper analysis to PROVE someone is mafia and to help see people if you are town but no you are not town you are scum. Also rso do you agree that if me and truffle were scum together e would have just claimed vigi and we probably could have just won. I assume thats why you think we couldnt be together. oh lol I'm sorry, didn't see your question... i'm not sure why y'all would have claimed vig together? that's kind of strange lol >< no, it's based on the onegu afk vote and the fact that y'all were clearly operating at odds Day 2 with prplhz...if prp is town in this situation, no offense to tbd, but lynching prp takes out a more experienced player and pretty much the only one with a townread on dwarf, setting up an easy mislynch the following day, so it's odd y'all would have gone that way if your both scum and he's not lol >< and obviously you trying to hammer prp and trfel saving him makes no sense if all three of you are scum so it's a little wifomy, which is why it's the least strong, but i think it holds | ||
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On April 17 2015 10:41 prplhz wrote: i mean it's sort of easy to say "this uncc'd blue probably isn't scum with X" xP cute, prp. read my posts and tell me that i'm not treating breshke's claim with skepticism note the only name not mentioned there besides my own was shining's...gonna keep sniping cause that's bound to help your case ^^ | ||
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On April 17 2015 11:08 Breshke wrote: Honestly you thinking that there is a possibility that im not the real vet actually hurts. It is so illogical tbf, bresh >< a lot of it has to do with how intelligent and rational my impression of you is...it's like you decided shining was scum on a whim and me by association, then fake-claimed vig and instead of reacting like i would expect from someone capable of rational thought when you're not the real vig being CC'd, you instantly voted him? it still boggles my mind -_- if you're vet here...eh -_- as either alignment claiming that makes sense, even fake-claiming that as either alignment makes sense, so i wouldn't take it personally...lol >< you say i should know things about you one thing you should know about me is how much i detest fake-claiming. it's a testament to the amount of time i've played, my impression of your ALL CAPS in your post, and a town motivation for claiming vig when you're not, that i'm not tunneling you for being irrational when my general impression of you is precisely the opposite xP of the five players i don't consider confirmed, you're the one i'm least suspicious of after looking through filters and voting patterns, and you'll just have to accept that as the best you're going to get -_- | ||
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On April 17 2015 11:24 Trfel wrote: I won't be responding to Tubesock any more, or at least for a while. Fairly confident that Tubesock and Bourneq are both mafia. Given the way Tubesock has been acting these last few pages, I could lynch him over Bourneq. I know that Tubesock will talk about how scummy this is, but I really don't care. He's mafia. Still not much clue about the third mafia. But that's for another day. i have a theory...well kinda lol >< i did already say those two based on voting analysis are practically universal scum candidates, in that they fit in pretty much any scumteam (although tube's push on you and bresh invalidates that a little lol ><) still, you two are my strongest townreads of the un-confirmeds so there's that | ||
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lol >< that was kinda unclear, i realize...i mean tube pushing you two doesn't really concern me that much in regards to the likelihood that he's scum | ||
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On April 17 2015 11:30 prplhz wrote: rso 3 man scum team go most likely bourne, prp, tube xP i'm not finished so stop pestering me -shoos- | ||
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On April 17 2015 11:32 Trfel wrote: So, who do you guys want to lynch today? I see no need to leave it up to shenanigans. bourne is the most logical lynch here....i'm slightly less sure of tube prp is my weakest scumread of the three on his own, but i think his interactions with bourne if bourne is scum are pretty damning >< another reason i prefer to lynch bourne here granted i know it's MYLO but lol scumreads based on associations and all that jazz xP | ||
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so we have three exceedingly new players...four...i don't remember what your read on ace was but i'd have to double-check...pretty sure you were the one mentioning that was a cop-out vote so assuming i recall correctly, you found some reason to townread all three of the others, but not bourneq? in fact, you basically jumped down his throat for not having an opinion on your entrance lol >< which, yes, it garnered discussion, but then you continued scumreading him throughout the game (correct me if i'm wrong here at any point) so why was bourne special? and what was with the long afk vote on him without even trying to push that read? then you come back into the thread and berate everyone for lynching TBD while ignoring that this lynch occurred because it was between you and him >< | ||
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